Yet the outsourced PC port was pretty great.
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Batman AK PC Perf Thread of DARKNESS, NO SETTINGS [30fps cap / intro removal in OP]
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Yet the outsourced PC port was pretty great.
Robert7lee
Neo Member
My 2 mins worth of game play on 980 ti and i7 4770k
Couple of peeps on here seem content/satisfied/happy? with their performance and maybe mine is worse then theirs although I don't get major stuttering like some it's still pretty bad.
60 fps looks so much better than 30 fps but can't stand those frame rate drops and this is with out NVidia Game works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZVS0oiXuYA
Couple of peeps on here seem content/satisfied/happy? with their performance and maybe mine is worse then theirs although I don't get major stuttering like some it's still pretty bad.
60 fps looks so much better than 30 fps but can't stand those frame rate drops and this is with out NVidia Game works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZVS0oiXuYA
GavinUK86
Member
It ran great sure, but never outsource your game. It's dumb. You want it on that platform? Do the work.
I think I found the problem
Plenty of outsourced ports are brilliant. Outsourcing is not always dumb, especially not if you actually use a company with a great rep.
If it was so easy, the PC version wouldn't have been as busted as it is. It's easy to judge from the side lines. Not that I condone how shitty this port was, but some of these projects are harder than you'd imagine.
GavinUK86
Member
I don't think it's a good idea, ever.
Fixed it, thanks. Although Rockstar would've been great considering the fantastic GTA 5 port.
Braag
Member
Good, I hope they really mean it that they're working hard on fixing all the issues.
Pretty sure the console versions are using Bokeh DOF while the PC version isn't.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Then you aren't aware of the large amount of outsourcing that happens all the time in the industry.
SliChillax
Member
I keep hearing "fixing performance issues" while no one is mentioning the missing graphical features present on the console versions.
This guy is the director so he either knew about the shit port and allowed them to release it anyway (no way he doesn't have that power), or he didn't know and is incompetent. Neither way looks good. Would love someone to grill him about this eventually.
Robert7lee
Neo Member
Baby Steps
Those would be calls made by WB, not him.
BlackNinja
Banned
Unless the engine was nearly completely overhauled.. which I get a feeling it was by the looks of AK.
Even if he is the director, the publisher is the one who sets the release date. You don't get to say "no" as the developer to releasing when the publisher tells you lol.
paperspace
Member
Why is this so important? We don't know anything, why assume things like that and use that as a base for accusing people?
Maybe they made their best with the material they got from Rocksteady. Then they didn't get more time and had to release it. We don't know, there are several possibilities.
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
I use to do QA for a large company that releases sports games and while it's not the exact same company I would wager that he knew but because the larger focus was on the console releases and wanted to meet the release date (which may or may not be insisted upon by the publisher) they basically ignored any A/B/C issues to in hopes they can just patch it after as there are little or no PC certification to check these things.
I think the only reason why it was removed until further notice was because the option to refund games on Steam spoke volumes and if that option was not there the game would probably still be purchased.
BlackNinja
Banned
Fuck the performance issues right now. I want my HBAO+, rain shaders, and Bokeh DOF -- THEN work on the stuttering.
I want an immediate patch with the graphics features turned on.. then I can play the damn game!
Green Yoshi
Member
I don't think Warner cares about Rocksteady. It is their logo on the PC version, not the one of Iron Galaxy Studios. Wouldn't surprise me if it will be their last game for Warner. Warner Bros. Montreal is most likely already developing a new Batman game. Big corporations as Time Warner sometimes act strange and look out for scapegoats.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Warner owns them. You expect them to sell Rocksteady?
Green Yoshi
Member
They could do what EA has done with Criterion and Pandemic. Take the best people and let them fade out.
Good news at last, and interesting that this seems like "all hands on deck" thing, which is appropriate given the state of the game.
Every dev should do Capcpom's MTF way, where every game was PC first, then ported to consoles.
What I'm surprised is that it's an UE3 game that they knew was going to be on PC, and they did that version last.
Every dev should do Capcpom's MTF way, where every game was PC first, then ported to consoles.
I hope they don't forget to optimize it for AMD cards while they're at it
I H8 Memes
Member
Wrong thread.
And why would they do that ? Your reasoning makes absolutely fuck all sense. The console versions are technical marvels basically and they may not have even had much of a hand in the PC version of AK at all, we don't know the facts. Their games also sell very well. Even if the creative director knew the state of the PC version do you honestly think he gets to dictate anything to management in terms of release ? Funniest thing I've read all day, you obviously never had to deal with upper management much. You completely underestimate the power some of these folks have.
So tell me, why would they want to let them fade out again ? I would like to think that WB just make sure in the future that any PC versions get the time and love they need after this fiasco (yeah right)
Ghostmaster
Member
Wow, so even nvidia's engineers are being called in.
I guess we know what went down at the WB's offices yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c
I guess we know what went down at the WB's offices yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c
I am interested to see how this turns out. In my experience, when a programming project goes into full on "shit is on fire, fix it now!" Mode, trowing in a ton of extra people from different companies and expecting them to all work together immediately doesn't always give the best result.
yeah, I mean the port didn't even have hbao+ or TXAA or any Nvidia standard features other than the PhysX smoke and cape.
so Rocksteady and Nvidia programmers are called into this now this now give me hope, but man.. this is not good for Iron Galaxy future, now other publishers will thinks a million time before they hire them after this massive mess.
Fuck the performance issues right now. I want my HBAO+, rain shaders, and Bokeh DOF -- THEN work on the stuttering.
I want an immediate patch with the graphics features turned on.. then I can play the damn game!
What good are features you can't enjoy if the game doesn't work?
exmachina64
Banned
Fuck the performance issues right now. I want my HBAO+, rain shaders, and Bokeh DOF -- THEN work on the stuttering.
I want an immediate patch with the graphics features turned on.. then I can play the damn game!
What GPU do you have? I can't get a stable 60fps with an overclocked 980.
The performance issues need to be fixed for all players and it needs to be possible to have these features turned on for players not using a 980 Ti or a Titan X.
888
Member
So I focused my play time on the batmobile since that seems to be the worst of the performance issues for a lot of people. I made a 10 min video which runs into a riddler race. It ran with things maxed and frame rate locked to 30. I am going to unlock it next and give it a shot. Beware my fail moments during the riddler race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcVS5gqo2n0
I was expecting it to crash at some point but it didn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcVS5gqo2n0
I was expecting it to crash at some point but it didn't.
EroticSushi
Member
GMG processed my refund for the game and season pass. Didn't even tell me to wait for the patch.
888
Member
I am stuck with mine, Nvidia promo code. Glad you got yours back.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
This was the main thing that caused me to push for a refund (processed by GMG today, thankfully). They haven't even acknowledged that the entire build is fucked besides the performance issues.
No hope needed. WB talked with GMG, they will proceed your request. Just wait a few hours.
CadetMahoney
Member
d00d3n
Member
Fuck the performance issues right now. I want my HBAO+, rain shaders, and Bokeh DOF -- THEN work on the stuttering.
I want an immediate patch with the graphics features turned on.. then I can play the damn game!
I agree, this would be nice. I was ready to play the game in 30 fps with some minor dips. It was the missing AO, rain shader surfaces, depth of field and texture streaming stuff that made me put the game on hold. If they fix these issues I will start to play the game again, probably in 4k in locked 30 fps.
exmachina64
Banned
Performance is abysmal across all types of PC hardware; common graphical features of modern games such as ambient occlusion are missing; there's no built-in option to turn off motion blur or chromatic aberration; Gameworks features don't work for the majority of Nvidia users and are poorly optimized; and the game stutters, freezes, and crashes across all hardware types for inconsistent reasons.
If the console versions didn't exist, people would still be furious.
Yes, I don't expect them to release a patch soon precisely because of that.
Surely they are now in that lovely phase of passing the blame around and trying to figure exactly wtf happened.
It'd still be terrible in a vacuum since people with top tier rigs have shit performance that includes stuttering, unstable framerate, freezes, textures not loading, memory leaks and crashes. The PS4 version only makes it look notably worse.
Without the comparison of the PS4 and XO:
It would still be a pc game locked at 30fps
It would still be a pc game with terrible performance: stutters, crashes, fluctuating frame rates/dives, textures not loading, etc...
It would still have a poor amount of graphical options
It would still have missing AO (we may not have noticed the rain effect)
The game has been pulled from sale. It has thousands of negative reviews on steam. It has multiple threads here dedicated to discussing how bad it is that have thousands of posts.
Do you really need further clarification that it's really that bad?
Since the game is almost unplayable for most of the people, i'd say "it is that bad"
If doesn't match the Nvidia gameplay of the game,
Mad Season
Banned
bought this on GMG for like $36 for a high end PC. thinking of trading it in for PS4 version. think I should?
The Hermit
Member
Its that bad