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[1-D_FTW]

Again... I'm not an advocate for unlocks. But in BC2 you start with the best weapons. You just don't have specs, which is a pain in the butt. Lack of mag/armor in the beginning is difficult, but the starting weapons are perfectly fine. I mean the avtomat is probably the best weapon in the game.

Maybe for close combat, but if you're a tactical assault guy who likes intermediate distance, they sucked. Nothing worse than flanking into a position, but knowing if you spray and pray you'd only alert them to your position and they'd turn around and wipe you out.

Getting the first scope turned the game from complete shit to "Finally, I can have some fun."

And the first gun being the best is a matter of opinion. I like guns that have high accuracy and an okay rate of fire. I'll trade rate of fire for accuracy every day. The gun I use most definitely isn't tier one, although I will admit the tier 1 gun is serviceable once you get a scope.

 

[aperman]

If the campaign is on one - play it, beat it, never put it in again.

Spoiler

i'll probably put it in again

 

[Emily Chu]

Campaign on one disc
Finish it
COASTER TIME.

Keep mp disc in forever until BF4 next gen


Where da problem sir?

That or get the pc version and crank it to 60hz

 

[Arnie]

I don't get the outrage over 2 discs. I mean...are there really any other alternatives?

Personally, I'm pleased with the revelation. I'd rather have a dedicated multiplayer disk because that's the one that's going to frequent my 360 for such a long period of time. I'm not going to put Battlefield in six months after launch and rue the fact that I can't play some singleplayer, I'm going to hop onto a Karkand match from my console server browser.

 

[Giriath_89]

In a perfect world it would be this: free chat with squad and anyone in your vehicle.

Nonono. You'd have people breathing and all kinds of noise interfering with the chat; click-to-talk is always better unless you have some extremely good microphone set-up.

 

[BrLvgThrChmstry]

I don't get the outrage over 2 discs. I mean...are there really any other alternatives?

Not purchasing the game? ...and holy crap at the influx of whining about scopes, I do agree -- the essentials should be unlocked from the get-go (defib, repair tool, etc.). Protip: Stay away from RO2, you will rage, Lol.

 

[Kyaw]

Nonono. You'd have people breathing and all kinds of noise interfering with the chat; click-to-talk is always better unless you have some extremely good microphone set-up.

Isn't most console mics good enough for noise cancellation?
My PS3 bluetooth mic is close to my mouth so only my voice gets in the mic and nothing else.
I presume the same thing with 360 mics.

For PC, we should have the ability to chat with team/squad/vehicle and Push to talk.

 

[Giriath_89]

Isn't most console mics good enough for noise cancellation?
My PS3 bluetooth mic is close to my mouth so only my voice gets in the mic and nothing else.
I presume the same thing with 360 mics.

For PC, we should have the ability to chat with team/squad/vehicle and Push to talk.

No, and on PC I hope we'll be able to assign keys to all three channels you mentioned.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

I never hear breathing on 360 mics with friends, as shitty as they are.

On PC you can do so much with your mic you can get it exactly as you need

 

[1-D_FTW]

Not purchasing the game? ...and holy crap at the influx of whining about scopes, I do agree -- the essentials should be unlocked from the get-go (defib, repair tool, etc.). Protip: Stay away from RO2, you will rage, Lol.

It's the reason I didn't buy RO 2. I could have almost forgiven them for tying the atrocious Punkbuster bans to VAC bans, but when they announced unlockables? Sales -1.

 

[Kyaw]

Not enough fingers on my hands for all three PTT buttons plus

WASD
CTRL
SHIFT
1,2,3,4
LMB
RMB
Scroll Wheel
E
F
R

At least i have two extra buttons on my mouse to bind it for whatever i want.

 

[MotorbreathX]

I'd rather just have it on Games on Demand so I don't have to use any disks.

 

[Evolved1]

Nonono. You'd have people breathing and all kinds of noise interfering with the chat; click-to-talk is always better unless you have some extremely good microphone set-up.

It wouldn't be very much different than it is now on BC2... except, you know, I'd be able to tell the random smurf who jumped in my Hind gun to target VADS, and other incredibly critical information that far outweighs the slight possibility of some heavy breathing. To which you could always say, um buddy could you kindly remove the mic from inside your esophagus? Most people will oblige when you tell them their mic is too loud/quite.

Vehicle chat is a necessity in my mind... and occasionally communicating to the entire team I think would be very useful, but I think for the whole team PTT is beast since it's not needed constantly and in that instance 12-32 players on one constantly-open chat channel would be too much noise.

 

[Giriath_89]

It wouldn't be very much different than it is now on BC2... except, you know, I'd be able to tell the random smurf who jumped in my Hind gun to target VADS, and other incredibly critical information that far outweighs the slight possibility of some heavy breathing. To which you could always say, um buddy could you kindly remove the mic from inside your esophagus? Most people will oblige when you tell them their mic is too loud/quite.

Vehicle chat is a necessity in my mind... and occasionally communicating to the entire team I think would be very useful, but I think for the whole team PTT is beast since it's not needed constantly and in that instance 12-32 players on one constantly-open chat channel would be too much noise.

I guess you're talking console? I'm not, and I have many keys to assign channels to.

 

[Nostalgia~4ever]

Not a console gamer.

I also dont like how Console games arent as nearly as authentic as the Real Battlefield games /troll >.>

First of all I hate Call of Duty. Second of all where did I mention call of duty? I am a PC gamer PC games should not be built to run on 30FPS >.>

Wait what you can get > 60 fps on pc version

 

[cresto]

With the all chat, do you think it will be proximity or just all over? Proximity would make more sense to me. I know on the 360 people will just use party chat anyway. I'm curious how they will handle parties greater than 4 people. It was next to impossible to get a good size group in a bc2 game on the 360. I guess it will be nice having the server browser

 

[Dinosaur Tamer]

Not a console gamer.

I also dont like how Console games arent as nearly as authentic as the Real Battlefield games /troll >.>

First of all I hate Call of Duty. Second of all where did I mention call of duty? I am a PC gamer PC games should not be built to run on 30FPS >.>

There is no FPS cap for the PC version. If you got the hardware you can easily play with > 60 FPS.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Although expected, I think we're overreacting to the 100 hours per kit announcement. Let's wait and get more info before we complain too much, since we don't know how it's implemented. I highly doubt you can select your unlocks, though.

Just read this tweet, where Demize says weapon damage is based on caliber. I'm wondering, since they're big on authenticity for BF3, how they'll be balancing weapons, i.e. will they be altering the "real" rate of fire, change damage from one 5.56 (for example) gun to another 5.56 gun, etc.

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

Although expected, I think we're overreacting to the 100 hours per kit announcement. Let's wait and get more info before we complain too much, since we don't know how it's implemented. I highly doubt you can select your unlocks, though.

Just read this tweet, where Demize says weapon damage is based on caliber. I'm wondering, since they're big on authenticity for BF3, how they'll be balancing weapons, i.e. will they be altering the "real" rate of fire, change damage from one 5.56 (for example) gun to another 5.56 gun, etc.

Based on caliber eh? That is pretty awesome and how it should be. Hopefully it doesn't lead to people spamming m60's or m240's all day though. I hope they would go so far as to change the rate of fire, trigger pull, trigger reset and rumble amount per weapon. My 360 pad has triggers, use them!

Unigine benchmarks, Lol. They were hilarious a few pages back and still continue to be just as funny. Just have some patience and wait for the beta to come out.

 

[Omiee]

This is what im getting now, is this enough to play battlefield 3 at ultra? Because i have seen people saying it probably is going to be pretty demanding.

 

[Eric WK]

This is what im getting now, is this enough to play battlefield 3 at ultra? Because i have seen people saying it probably is going to be pretty demanding.

Dude, we don't know yet.

 

[TheLegendOfMart]

This is what im getting now, is this enough to play battlefield 3 at ultra? Because i have seen people saying it probably is going to be pretty demanding.

It will barely run in medium at that spec.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Oh, and Demize clarified: you MUST play co-op to unlock certain MP guns.

There will be no Air Superiority mode at launch, but may be added later.

 

[Blutonium]

This is what im getting now, is this enough to play battlefield 3 at ultra? Because i have seen people saying it probably is going to be pretty demanding.

*benchmark*

These are the specs:

Minimum
Hard Drive Space: 15 GB for disc version or 10 GB for digital version
OS: Windows Vista or Windows 7
Processor: Core 2 Duo @ 2.0GHzRAM2GB
Video Card: DirectX 10 or 11 compatible Nvidia or AMD ATI card

Recommended
Hard Drive Space: 15 GB for disc version or 10 GB for digital version
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
Processor: Quad-core Intel or AMD CPURAM 4GB
Video Card: DirectX 11 Nvidia or AMD ATI card, GeForce GTX 460, Radeon Radeon HD 6850

 

[Sethos]

This is what im getting now, is this enough to play battlefield 3 at ultra? Because i have seen people saying it probably is going to be pretty demanding.

Sorry man, Medium or low at best at 800x600.

 

[Omiee]

Theses are the specs:

Minimum
Hard Drive Space: 15 GB for disc version or 10 GB for digital version
OS: Windows Vista or Windows 7
Processor: Core 2 Duo @ 2.0GHzRAM2GB
Video Card: DirectX 10 or 11 compatible Nvidia or AMD ATI card

Recommended
Hard Drive Space: 15 GB for disc version or 10 GB for digital version
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
Processor: Quad-core Intel or AMD CPURAM 4GB
Video Card: DirectX 11 Nvidia or AMD ATI card, GeForce GTX 460, Radeon Radeon HD 6850

Well thats not that bad actually, so what is all the fuss about. Iv seen people saying it should be pretty demanding and getting 60fps on ultra would be pretty hard to achieve.

 

[Dabanton]

Planning on building a new PC soon. I think i'll wait to see the specs for BF3 before i proceed..

 

[vaelic]

Oh, and Demize clarified: you MUST play co-op to unlock certain MP guns.

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now THAT is terrible

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

Oh, and Demize clarified: you MUST play co-op to unlock certain MP guns.

That is just so stupid. Why should I be forced to play a mode that I have no interest in at all, in order to unlock things for a mode that I do have interest in playing? Fuck playing some stupid ass campaign missions, that are linear as all hell and with braindead AI. I want my MP weapons and I don't want to have to play any garbage singleplayer or co-op to do so. Fuck off with this DICE.

 

[Eric WK]

Oh, and Demize clarified: you MUST play co-op to unlock certain MP guns.

Awful.

 

[Corky]

Oh, and Demize clarified: you MUST play co-op to unlock certain MP guns.

There will be no Air Superiority mode at launch, but may be added later.

Ehhh

 

[RoboPlato]

Oh, and Demize clarified: you MUST play co-op to unlock certain MP guns.

There will be no Air Superiority mode at launch, but may be added later.

The co-op thing is strange. Hopefully they won't be grindy. I'll be playing co-op but I'm not sure how much.

 

[Blutonium]

Well thats not that bad actually, so what is all the fuss about. Iv seen people saying it should be pretty demanding and getting 60fps on ultra would be pretty hard to achieve.

Sure, but these are still recommended specs. They don't take in to account the resolution and texture settings/AA etc. you want to use. To max everything you'll probably need one hell of a card.

A while back I read that the Gamescom demo's ran on a single GTX 580, is this true?

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

This is what im getting now, is this enough to play battlefield 3 at ultra? Because i have seen people saying it probably is going to be pretty demanding.

I think we'll be okay... those are extreme setting on the benchmark.

 

[Corky]

A while back I read that the Gamescom demo's ran on a single GTX 580, is this true?

Two.

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Although expected, I think we're overreacting to the 100 hours per kit announcement. Let's wait and get more info before we complain too much, since we don't know how it's implemented. I highly doubt you can select your unlocks, though.

Just read this tweet, where Demize says weapon damage is based on caliber. I'm wondering, since they're big on authenticity for BF3, how they'll be balancing weapons, i.e. will they be altering the "real" rate of fire, change damage from one 5.56 (for example) gun to another 5.56 gun, etc.

This better be true, it is something I have been wanting from a game in a long time.

 

[Omiee]

I did not have the need to unlock my 6950's or overclock them before this. But i think battlefield 3 will be the game that makes me overclock them and unlock them to 6970's
i just need a good guide to show me how since i have the asus direct cu 2

 

[Anton Sugar]

Yeah, I don't like the co-op decision. I guess it encourages you to play both modes, but it's not a very logical decision.

 

[Uno Venova]

Oh, and Demize clarified: you MUST play co-op to unlock certain MP guns.

There will be no Air Superiority mode at launch, but may be added later.

My friends are all COD whores :/, maybe 1 or 2 will get BF.

 

[Soma]

I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's only like what 6 co-op missions anyhow. I'm sure they're not particularly lengthy missions but I could be proven wrong.

In any case, I kinda enjoy co-op stuff personally.

 

[Raide]

For those without co-op friends, I am sure we can get a few from GAF to donate some "friend time" so you can get your co-op weapons.

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

Yeah, I don't like the co-op decision. I guess it encourages you to play both modes, but it's not a very logical decision.

This does the opposite for me. I might have had a passing interest in playing the campaign or co-op. Not anymore. Battlefield has been and will always be, a multiplayer centric game. To restrict multiplayer gameplay, in any way, because of the campaign or co-op is just wrong.

I have always hated the idea of single/co-op in BF3, I have always felt it takes resources away, that could be better spent on more multiplayer content. Now, to make me play the mode that I despise, to unlock content for the one I love, is just fucked up. I would rather go without whatever the co-op MP unlocks are, than have to play co-op. Fuck DICE hard for this decision.

 

[Ikuu]

Not sure why I should have to play some garbage co-op mode to unlock MP stuff.

 

[ChiefKief]

Gotta repost this since Heaven scores are being posted

 

[vaelic]

i am assuming the game will have an auto search for coop people?

 

[MustacheBandit_]

forced co-op? this is the first bad taste decision that BF3 has left in my mouth. who thought this was a good idea?

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

forced co-op? this is the first bad taste decision that BF3 has left in my mouth. who thought this was a good idea?

I don't know, but it has me heated. I created a twitter account and am asking demize about the forced co-op, lol. It just makes no sense at all to force people to play a mode they don't want to.

 

[MustacheBandit_]

I don't know, but it has me heated. I created a twitter account and am asking demize about the forced co-op, lol. It just makes no sense at all to force people to play a mode they don't want to.

i love me some multiplayer games but I have always dislike co-op. what guns does it unlock? maybe i should figure that part out before i start my boycot haha.

 

[Pete Rock]

Well, I hope both those things change eventually. This sauce is weak.

 

[The Faceless Master]

I don't get the outrage over 2 discs. I mean...are there really any other alternatives?

there are several alternatives!

buy it on PS3!

buy it on PC!

people have tons of options to avoid swapping a disk!