I've got an X52 Pro with the throttle thing, but I've always (1942 and beyond) used W and S for the throttle and then the joystick for everything else. Was never a problem in BF2 since the helicopters auto-hovered and you don't really need precise throttle control in the jets.
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Kyaw said:
For a game like BF3, you probably need some simplified flight titles.
Flying in ArmA 2 is great practice, I'm thinking that's the best practice. Then you could try some IL-2 / Wings of Prey just to get the feel for it. If you want challenge and lots of reading, DCS games ( A-10 / Black Shark ).
I'm talking about $30 flight sticks (that I can get for $15 with a coupon) and you guys are talking about $80 flight sticks 
I can't put that kind of money into something that I'd only use for portions of the game where I was in a chopper/jet.
It's nice to hear that fine throttle control wasn't that important in BF2. Trying to two hand a joystick would have been a pain.
I can't put that kind of money into something that I'd only use for portions of the game where I was in a chopper/jet.
It's nice to hear that fine throttle control wasn't that important in BF2. Trying to two hand a joystick would have been a pain.
Sethos said:... You push your joystick to the side
For 1942 and BFV I had a stick with no twist, I just assigned the rudder to two side by side buttons on the top of the joystick which worked fine. As soon as I got the twist though, after getting used to it it worked quite well for strafing. Especially in FH2
Nizz
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Not really sure if this can relate to people on the PC, but for those who tried the alpha, was there a difference in the feel of the controls to say, Bad Company 2?
On consoles, there is a slight weighty feel to the controls. In a way I'm hoping BF3 on consoles feels closer to Medal of Honor's MP. It still felt like Bad Company, but sped up. A little lighter in feel.
On consoles, there is a slight weighty feel to the controls. In a way I'm hoping BF3 on consoles feels closer to Medal of Honor's MP. It still felt like Bad Company, but sped up. A little lighter in feel.
Nizz
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YoungFa said:
Mr Sandman said:
Thanks for the answers. I was hoping for this. Hope it's the same case on console, right now in Bad Company 2 I have the sensitivity maxed for it to feel right to me. BF3 feeling less sluggish sounds great.
I don't really touch air vehicles in Bad Company, just hop into tanks occasionally. But having flying physics be the same on all platforms sounds good to me. It's sucks when a level 50 is doing circles destroying the team you're on.scogoth said:
ColonialRaptor
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I have a Thrustmaster Hotas X and in BC2 I found it difficult to control choppers precisely with the throttle because it takes a lot longer to move the throttle from all the way forward to all the way backward than it does to just change your finger from the 'W' key to the 'S' key.
Therefore, while I could control things far more accurately and it feels way more real, and I was flying the chopper in a far more legitimate and realistic way, I couldn't pull off some of the moves that some of the other players were able to do like some of those quick duck and slide moves that pro mouse and keyboard pilots are able to pull off.
So... because there isn't a lot of use for all of those extra buttons that you have (it's a bit disappointing that the alternate analogue wobble throttle on the front of the throttle isn't picked up by BC2 because I would have used that, but oh well. But instead I mapped an alternate accelerate and decelerate to two of the digital buttons on the throttle.
So, for fine tuning I have the huge analogue spread of the entire throttle throw, but for situation when I'm in a rush or need to react very quick and get out of the way in a REAL hurry and be at full throttle up or down instantly, I hit accelerate or decelerate digitally on the throttle while also jamming the throttle back or forward whichever way I want to go and it works wonders. It's a good technique to use for Joystick users
Now... considering I have a G13, Joystick and Mouse... it's quite funny, but I used to love using my G19 keyboard, but during gaming sessions I don't even touch the keyboard anymore... Lol, it's that funny.
One question - I was playing a map the other day and the other team was flying circles around the base that I was defending on a Rush map in BC2, they were going rather slow but when a rocket came they just dipped under it... anyway they were moving slow enough for me to hit them with the IR tracker for guiding rockets, but as soon as it hit the chopper it just disappeared... what the heck where they doing to remove it? Is this one of the vehicles upgrades that I've never been aware of? God damn they just kicked our arses! Couldn't be shot down, and he just flew at the side of the map strafing left and right at the edge of the artillery zone letting the gunner just mow everyone down and there wasn't shit anyone could do about it and the other team just burned through us.
Therefore, while I could control things far more accurately and it feels way more real, and I was flying the chopper in a far more legitimate and realistic way, I couldn't pull off some of the moves that some of the other players were able to do like some of those quick duck and slide moves that pro mouse and keyboard pilots are able to pull off.
So... because there isn't a lot of use for all of those extra buttons that you have (it's a bit disappointing that the alternate analogue wobble throttle on the front of the throttle isn't picked up by BC2 because I would have used that, but oh well. But instead I mapped an alternate accelerate and decelerate to two of the digital buttons on the throttle.
So, for fine tuning I have the huge analogue spread of the entire throttle throw, but for situation when I'm in a rush or need to react very quick and get out of the way in a REAL hurry and be at full throttle up or down instantly, I hit accelerate or decelerate digitally on the throttle while also jamming the throttle back or forward whichever way I want to go and it works wonders. It's a good technique to use for Joystick users
Now... considering I have a G13, Joystick and Mouse... it's quite funny, but I used to love using my G19 keyboard, but during gaming sessions I don't even touch the keyboard anymore... Lol, it's that funny.
One question - I was playing a map the other day and the other team was flying circles around the base that I was defending on a Rush map in BC2, they were going rather slow but when a rocket came they just dipped under it... anyway they were moving slow enough for me to hit them with the IR tracker for guiding rockets, but as soon as it hit the chopper it just disappeared... what the heck where they doing to remove it? Is this one of the vehicles upgrades that I've never been aware of? God damn they just kicked our arses! Couldn't be shot down, and he just flew at the side of the map strafing left and right at the edge of the artillery zone letting the gunner just mow everyone down and there wasn't shit anyone could do about it and the other team just burned through us.
I just saw this Campaign trailer for the first time, I had never seen it before.
Fucking hype is at the maxxxx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgqEs33vg_s
Fucking hype is at the maxxxx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgqEs33vg_s
ColonialRaptor
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abuC said:
One of the best thing's I've ever bought!
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Well I caved in bought the Turtle Beach DPX21 headset (PS3 7.1 SS), MSRP $149.99, got them for $129.99 from amazon =]
7.1 Surround Sound for the Beta is going to glorious!
7.1 Surround Sound for the Beta is going to glorious!
Yeah... You're better off with a quality pair of stereo headphones with Dolby Headphones. It will recreate a far more accurate surround soundstange than a "7.1" headset could ever hope to accomplish.nitric0 said:
If you haven't opened them yet, I would return them for a refund and head over the headphone thread and ask for some suggestions.
Tarin02543
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7.1 headsets? But I don't have 7.1 ears!
ColonialRaptor said:I have a Thrustmaster Hotas X and in BC2 I found it difficult to control choppers precisely with the throttle because it takes a lot longer to move the throttle from all the way forward to all the way backward than it does to just change your finger from the 'W' key to the 'S' key.
Therefore, while I could control things far more accurately and it feels way more real, and I was flying the chopper in a far more legitimate and realistic way, I couldn't pull off some of the moves that some of the other players were able to do like some of those quick duck and slide moves that pro mouse and keyboard pilots are able to pull off.
So... because there isn't a lot of use for all of those extra buttons that you have (it's a bit disappointing that the alternate analogue wobble throttle on the front of the throttle isn't picked up by BC2 because I would have used that, but oh well. But instead I mapped an alternate accelerate and decelerate to two of the digital buttons on the throttle.
So, for fine tuning I have the huge analogue spread of the entire throttle throw, but for situation when I'm in a rush or need to react very quick and get out of the way in a REAL hurry and be at full throttle up or down instantly, I hit accelerate or decelerate digitally on the throttle while also jamming the throttle back or forward whichever way I want to go and it works wonders. It's a good technique to use for Joystick users
Now... considering I have a G13, Joystick and Mouse... it's quite funny, but I used to love using my G19 keyboard, but during gaming sessions I don't even touch the keyboard anymore... Lol, it's that funny.
One question - I was playing a map the other day and the other team was flying circles around the base that I was defending on a Rush map in BC2, they were going rather slow but when a rocket came they just dipped under it... anyway they were moving slow enough for me to hit them with the IR tracker for guiding rockets, but as soon as it hit the chopper it just disappeared... what the heck where they doing to remove it? Is this one of the vehicles upgrades that I've never been aware of? God damn they just kicked our arses! Couldn't be shot down, and he just flew at the side of the map strafing left and right at the edge of the artillery zone letting the gunner just mow everyone down and there wasn't shit anyone could do about it and the other team just burned through us.
Smoke perk for vehicle removes the tracer when it's used.
"Surround sound" headsets are, generally speaking, a scam. They cram a bunch of weak, small drivers millimeters apart from one another, and call it "surround" sound. You would be much better off with a pair of headphones that has good soundstaging and going with an emulated surround sound option.JWong said:
ColonialRaptor
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DTKT said:
Ooer... I didn't know that, never used it.
That's almost an unfair advantage!
Do perks stack, say if driver and gunner have different perks do they both get something?
Such as, if driver has armour and gunner has smoke?
ColonialRaptor
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Oh boy the 7.1 headphone argument haha...
It's alll about the timing of the sound to your ear, that's how 7.1 sound systems work, 7.1 headphones are a folly, but wireless is another story and you can't usually find good wireless headsets (please see that i said headSET) that aren't 7.1... The good audiophile wireless headphones are more expensive and the 7.1 speaker headsets do still give a good audio quality it just doesn't make a difference if they have 2 speakers or 7.
I have a logitech g930 setup and it's fantastic, just make sure your ingame sound settings are set to headphones.
It's alll about the timing of the sound to your ear, that's how 7.1 sound systems work, 7.1 headphones are a folly, but wireless is another story and you can't usually find good wireless headsets (please see that i said headSET) that aren't 7.1... The good audiophile wireless headphones are more expensive and the 7.1 speaker headsets do still give a good audio quality it just doesn't make a difference if they have 2 speakers or 7.
I have a logitech g930 setup and it's fantastic, just make sure your ingame sound settings are set to headphones.
I'm trying to figure out my sound situation right now. I need an HDMI 1.4 receiver that will work with a 580 and be able to pass 3d video along with whatever the new DTS/DD is called. My 580 only has one HDMI out, and I've read confusing stuff about people saying that it only does one or the other.
I want the Denon 1611 for $299 off Amazon, but the Nvidia site says I need a 1611CI. I can't find the CI version anywhere, and something tells me the 1611 will work anyway. Any advice?
I want the Denon 1611 for $299 off Amazon, but the Nvidia site says I need a 1611CI. I can't find the CI version anywhere, and something tells me the 1611 will work anyway. Any advice?
Reckless Onion
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Have they mentioned if the recoil is the same on both PC and consoles?
IchigoSharingan
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JWong said:
it's sad that he is arguing about sound quality and your only retort is ......features.
Jtrizzy said:
googling around there's this thread on Nvidia forum which makes it seem like Nvidia only has issues (bug?) when you are trying to bitstream DTS Master AND use 3D at the same time. To get around this you could let your Blu-Ray software decode the sound itself and send out the multichannel LPCM sound instead (should be same quality as bitstreaming anyway).
for games this is not an issue as all games will always be using multichannel LPCM anyway on PC
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