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Bayonetta 2 - WiiU (Director: Yusuke Hashimoto, Pub: Nintendo, Supervision:Kamiya)
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Stop this wildly exciting talk right now!
I'm sure Sega will collapse in the near future anyway so they can go and pick up whatever they want.
Nintendo could step in and secure a console PSO2 before they go totally tits up though, the Western release seems dangerously far away and I'd really like a full console one. Be a nice fit on Wii U with the controller as well.
Delusibeta
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Quite possibly the largest pile of sodium on NeoGAF since Final Fantasy 13 on 360 announcement.
Stop this wildly exciting talk right now!
I'm sure Sega will collapse in the near future anyway so they can go and pick up whatever they want.
Nintendo could step in and secure a console PSO2 before they go totally tits up though, the Western release seems dangerously far away and I'd really like a full console one. Be a nice fit on Wii U with the controller as well.
Nintendo buys the Sega name and IPs from Sammy, fully folds all Sega properties into Nintendo proper.
If that happened I'd love to go back in time and tell my 8-year old Sega fanboy self what the future holds.
DQ X was worse.
And of course Epic Mickey as well.
Okay, but if you agree there is an inherent breaking point in this concept, and that if they continue to do this, we will eventually reach it, you must also anticipate a change in strategy before that happens right? Sooner or later, they either have to get a lot more people playing games, or they need to stop increasing the costs of making them. A new generation just seems like a natural place to switch things up to me.
Phones are bad analogy I think, because although you can have multiple phones, it's not really very practical. I want an iPhone, because I think iOS is much better than Android, and I want the Galaxy S3, because I think the handset is much better than an iPhone. I can't help but be frustrated at that situation, it's not like gaming consoles at all, because there's no reason not to own the three, if you want them of course.
I honestly think its more that people bought an app on the iPhone and then saw the sequel released exclusively on android.
I don't understand why people bother to whinge about it at length but I totally understand why it pisses people off. Imagine watching two films of a trilogy on blu-ray and then the third is released exclusively on hd-dvd.
I mean, we can dance the analogy dance all night but ultimately what's done is done. Bayonetta fans either buy a Wii-U or they miss out on the game. That's all there is to it. I don't think it's going to kill anyone to miss out on a single videogame, far worse fates could befall us.
Do you buy every console every gen?Apt analogy.
"I-it's not like I want the system or anything! Baka! (I have to keep up appearances.)"
If not, why not? Don't pretend there aren't two games that interest you.
Dat butthurt. If Nintendo didn't pick up the game it'd probably never be released. In either situation PS3/360-only owners wouldn't get a chance to play the game, so they should just be quiet.
At least now there's a chance for people to play Bayonetta 2 and that's all that should matter.
At least now there's a chance for people to play Bayonetta 2 and that's all that should matter.
Just reached the trailer in the conference. My god that logo is made of HYPE!
Samurai_Heart
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Man it makes me glad I support every platform, the amount of bitterness in this thread, I though GAF was better than this. (That wall of shame) Kudos to Mama Robotnik
Gonna look at those threads XD
near
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When you put it in context like that I agree with you on every word. But I guess it entirely depends on who you're debating with - if someone is arguing they have no intention of buying the WiiU because they plan on getting a PS4 or X720 then one might argue they're limiting themselves as a gamer, and they are voicing there frustrations with this announcement with fanboy-ish like behaviour. But if one - using your toothbrush example - wishes to have a toothbrush that cleans your tongue well and gets the gums (but this isn't on the market) he is likely to pick the toothbrush that works well for him at this current moment, rather than having to use two toothbrushes in the morning. Similarly, while PS4/720 will have good third party support, and Nintendo are pushing into that direction too with WiiU, there is no guarantee which direction the market will head and if there will be a balance in shares. Someone's pie will be bigger than the other, and the odd ball exclusive will be there. Options are good, but if you had to choose one then ofcourse you'll be frustrated with the limitation.
Moving goalposts, this is a megaton, either cause it's exclusive or cause Bayonetta is back, take one.
I guess people buying Wii U just for Bayonetta 2 will drive down Wii U's software tie ratio?
As much as I'd love a new Vanquish, I don't want a new Vanquish without Mikami, and I think that collaboration might be difficult with him at another company (and Zwei announced as his last game...but then again, Hero was supposed to be Jet Li's last movie).
McBradders
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Well, it took long enough. Now... what's next? Gears of War on PlayStation 4? The hype train is departing.
Possibly, but the breaking point has not been reached, and there is strong incentive for them to continue along the path they have chosen.
Specifically, the strategy they've thus far employed has helped develop a taste in many "core" gamers for increasingly larger, better produced, more detailed worlds. The games need to get more "epic" or people aren't interested.
In other words, it's no longer possible to simply turn around and go another direction without significant complications. That's sort of what Nintendo did, and you can see the intense criticism they received from "core" gamers in the process.
I think it's entirely possible that many companies will continue on this path until they really do collapse, as they've painted themselves in to a corner. Perhaps I'm wrong, and they'll find a way out, but I see no evidence that they plan to work their way out of the corner they've painted themselves in to any time soon.
Combichristoffersen
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Technically Epic could make Gears 4 multiplat if they wanted, but I have a hard time imagining Microsoft would let the Gears series slip, as it is more or less a de facto MS exclusive by now :lol
ThatObviousUser
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Usually, I find it more productive to invest the money I would use buying other consoles and accompanying accessories and games into just buying more games for the consoles I already have.
ShinobiFist
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Wii U purchase cemented. Looking forward on playing Bayo2 and Rayman. Props to Nintendo for picking up the game.
Except here it's more of a situation of the first movie being on DVD and then the second one on Blu-ray, yet some people want it on HD-DVD and not Blu-ray, even though they know shit about HD-DVD or what it will offer while they have this great sequel on Blu-ray.
I don't think I understand your answer. Do you, or not?
It sounds like you're still buying NES games if I'm reading your answer correctly.
What do you mean they know shit? Are you familiar with exclusive franchises?
Should a Gran Turismo fan wait and see which system it ends up on next-gen?
Herbspiceguy
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Very nice move of Nintendo. I hope this is going to be really good and will lead to more Platinum games for the Wii U.
Going through this thread it seems like a lot of "hardcore" gamers are not willing to accept Nintendo's change of course, yet they gave Nintendo shit when it didn't cater to the "hardcore" gamers enough. Quite ironic, but I think this is just a vocal minority and most fans of the genre/IP will buy the game.
I wonder if Nintendo has secured any other, unexpected, "hardcore" IP exclusives for the Wii U, and if we can expect GTA V for it.
Going through this thread it seems like a lot of "hardcore" gamers are not willing to accept Nintendo's change of course, yet they gave Nintendo shit when it didn't cater to the "hardcore" gamers enough. Quite ironic, but I think this is just a vocal minority and most fans of the genre/IP will buy the game.
I wonder if Nintendo has secured any other, unexpected, "hardcore" IP exclusives for the Wii U, and if we can expect GTA V for it.
mysteriousmage09
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Difference is, you could still play the game on PS3. Now, everyone that bought the first game for a MS or Sony console is now forced to buy Nintendo's new console to see how the sequel unfolds. Same thing with Devil May Cry, went to 360 but was still on PS3. Could you imagine if Gears of War 4 all the sudden was published by Sony on the PS4? Rage of 1000 suns.
Sviatoslav
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I don't care which platform it's for, we're getting a new fucking Bayonetta! Be happy, people!
ThatObviousUser
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Well obviously, upgrading to a new generation isn't hard to justify since the releases for the old one dry up.
Really, I should own more consoles than I do, but I feel guilty buying new consoles with a backlog. It took until two weeks ago for me to buy a 3DS even though I had wanted one since launch (that turned out to be a smart move.)
I just came to work and I saw this. Good job Nintendo to make a good old meltdown like that and there's also Monster Hunter 3G that now has a Wii U online version. If people thought that Wii U would be a joke, they should turn their tongues. Nintendo should try to get Final Fantasy Versus XIII exclusive just to see more meltdown.
That would be glorious. I'd pay good money for witnessing this!
Then I find myself surprised that you can't empathise with people that don't want to buy every console.
I usually do buy them all and inevitably end up with buyers remorse. I've promised myself I won't do that this time, but we shall see. New toys are fun, after all.
That's just it, you don't know that PS4 will offer all that you assume it will.
I'm sorry, but I just find your kind of attitude kinda sad. You're so set in your ways that you're not willing to at least give a chance to new experiences. I guess it's just hard to comprehend for a person like me who likes everything from Mario to Silent Hill to Bayonetta to Borderlands to Final Fantasy to Planescape Torment to Ouendan to BlazBlue to Uncharted etc. (except generic FPS games like CoD & such), how some people can have such closed off preferences in games that they don't even want to at least try to change so that they could enjoy more good games.
Principate
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There's nothing wrong with this mentality it's the feeling obligated it should be ported that seems wrong should turn out (likely) the game was dead and Nintendo saved it. Then your being angry for no real reason. The words tough cookies and that's life should be said and the person quickly moves on. It's one of those occasions where there really isn't publisher/developer obligation to consumer.
Knux-Future
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The difference also is that those games were going to be made without exclusivity.
Bayonetta 2 does not exist without Nintendo.
That is the big difference between those games and this.
Do people not understand this part of it?
Chet Rippo
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A little to salty for my taste.
Combichristoffersen
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I assume it will offer higher hardware specs than the Wii U (going by the rumours about PS4/720 specs) and sequels to succesful first-party franchises, yes.
No worries, different tastes and all that. I know what genres and IPs I like and stick to those, while others like to try a lot of different things. Neither of us are really right or wrong
It was never officially confirmed, but it was rumoured to be in development, and then rumoured to be cancelled. Sega wouldn't have funded the game because Sega frankly can't afford to ATM.
Oh absolutely. This project was publicly announced as dead in the water. Any real ire ought to be directed at Sony or MS for not doing what Nintendo did: saving it.
Will they play Gran Turismo 6 next year? 2014? 2019? I mean, I guess it's ok if they are fine with the waiting game, but Bayonetta 2 will quite likely be released within a year from now (if they didn't stop working on it for too long after SEGA abandoned it, should've been in development for at least 2-2,5 years now).
This.
I don't know man, its like some really don't want to understand this, like, even if you tell them. :/
Palette Swap
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All signs point to Sega never ever funding the game and Nintendo saving it.
mysteriousmage09
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Kickstarter, how the fuck does it work!?
If the deal works, they might as well.
Platinum couldn't ask for a more powerful publisher, and get the impression there's a lot of mutual respect going on here.
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