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Betting time: Do you think the Switch will be a success?
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Kssio_Aug
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Thank you. Covered up pretty much everything I think about it... I could not have said better. You were right on point, well said.
RowdyReverb
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That's really the crux of it and things like that are hard to predict. If they can make a killer app like Wii Sports that goes shockingly viral, the thing could take off. I think it's still a bit early in the game to call it, but some of the aspects of the launch smack of Wii U
I think it will do well, but not Wii well for sure.
My whole Facebook wall is blowing up with casual fans excited for Zelda and Skyrim on the go. Gaf hardly represents the world. I realize my Facebook wall doesn't either, but I think it has wider appeal than people here seem to believe.
My whole Facebook wall is blowing up with casual fans excited for Zelda and Skyrim on the go. Gaf hardly represents the world. I realize my Facebook wall doesn't either, but I think it has wider appeal than people here seem to believe.
dragonbane
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Will sell well for 1-3 months, then bomb hard. Maybe can recover with a hefty price cut and good games, maybe can't.
Back-In-Black
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No, I expect a repeat of the Wii-U.
VincentMatts
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Im surprised to see all the negativity here. What did you guys expect? Its the combination of everything theyve done.
I see it doing well from day 1. Not Wii good, but very good. That much i am certain.
Zelada game at launch and mario within the holiday? sold out everywhere guaranteed.
I see it doing well from day 1. Not Wii good, but very good. That much i am certain.
Zelada game at launch and mario within the holiday? sold out everywhere guaranteed.
visiblemode
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The price is pushing it, in a major way.
Portability aside (the market is softer than ever and for the segment that loves it still, kids, the price and perceived durability, are a challenge.) It's still a factor in value but will focus on home use.
For serious home use, the machine needs an SD upgrade and Pro controller, imo. In CAD the base machine is listing at $469, the Pro controller by extension will be ~$100 and add about $50 for a 128gb SD card.
This makes it one of the most expensive consoles of all time.
I'm the target and even as a Nintendo instabuyer, I'm like "damn man." I know at least two older family members who wanted to jump on a switch (I had recommended holding off on Wii U due to switch being close), I doubt they will at this price.
Portability aside (the market is softer than ever and for the segment that loves it still, kids, the price and perceived durability, are a challenge.) It's still a factor in value but will focus on home use.
For serious home use, the machine needs an SD upgrade and Pro controller, imo. In CAD the base machine is listing at $469, the Pro controller by extension will be ~$100 and add about $50 for a 128gb SD card.
This makes it one of the most expensive consoles of all time.
I'm the target and even as a Nintendo instabuyer, I'm like "damn man." I know at least two older family members who wanted to jump on a switch (I had recommended holding off on Wii U due to switch being close), I doubt they will at this price.
Starchasing
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Since the console has 2 controllers and can be played anywhere, the following packs at 300$ would fly of the shelves:
1) Switch + Fifa
2) Switch + Madden
3) Switch + Nba 2k
But would Nintendo stop being stubborn and allow those types of packs? If they do the Switch can sell gangbusters.
1) Switch + Fifa
2) Switch + Madden
3) Switch + Nba 2k
But would Nintendo stop being stubborn and allow those types of packs? If they do the Switch can sell gangbusters.
This almost feels like a "soft launch" to me. Barren launch lineup but the lineup as a whole may be decent by the time Mario hits the shelves. Advanced online services are free and only in certain regions... until around the time Mario is meant to come out.
I dunno. I just don't see the logic in them not waiting a bit longer for more games to be ready. How often are consoles released this time of year? They'll probably blow out marketing and have a bundle deal this holiday season that makes early adopters go "dude c'mon wtf?!"
I dunno. I just don't see the logic in them not waiting a bit longer for more games to be ready. How often are consoles released this time of year? They'll probably blow out marketing and have a bundle deal this holiday season that makes early adopters go "dude c'mon wtf?!"
Suburban Thug
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Why do you keep holding on to the notion that it's a handheld when the Switch website calls it their next home console that has a portable mode and Nintendo did the same multiple times in their presentation? It's like people have Trump complex where if they say something false long enough they start to believe it.
It's a hybrid but I think they're leaving the door open for a 3ds successor. Seems to big to be a dedicated handheld and battery life is poor.
always crazy bacon
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Easy to dominate the handheld market when you're the only player and your competitor tapped out.
Ok, I think if they got third parties they might be fine. But I agree with people that with 32 gb internal storage they aren't going to get them. And pricing themselves to be competing with two machines that do get third parties and already have a large library is going to fail them.
They need to get third parties or they need to price themselves in a way that it's easy to justify them as a supplementary machine just for their games. I won't even ask they price themselves as a handheld as I know that's a bit much to do while trying to be good enough for a console but it seems it is closer to a handheld than console. That's why 250 would be a better price. Yeah it's only 50 but it's optics. It's also only 50 more than what most people want to pay for a handheld, not 100 more.
They're making the same big mistake they made with wii u. And adding in pay for online with an insulting concession (play ancient games that you only get to for one month).
Sad cause I liked the idea and if it got third parties I would have been interested. Hell, if it was priced cheaper and got Pokemon and monster hunter I might have been interested. It was a nice concept but I think they flubbed the implementation.
They need to get third parties or they need to price themselves in a way that it's easy to justify them as a supplementary machine just for their games. I won't even ask they price themselves as a handheld as I know that's a bit much to do while trying to be good enough for a console but it seems it is closer to a handheld than console. That's why 250 would be a better price. Yeah it's only 50 but it's optics. It's also only 50 more than what most people want to pay for a handheld, not 100 more.
They're making the same big mistake they made with wii u. And adding in pay for online with an insulting concession (play ancient games that you only get to for one month).
Sad cause I liked the idea and if it got third parties I would have been interested. Hell, if it was priced cheaper and got Pokemon and monster hunter I might have been interested. It was a nice concept but I think they flubbed the implementation.
No it won't. It's going to be slow out of the gates. I don't think the public will view it as much of a handheld, but more a console. If that's the case it's way too expensive compared to the value you'd get on say a PS4, especially on the software front. I think they really needed to find a way to hit that $199 mark.
I kind of feel they should have focused on a pure handheld and as far as consoles go at this point, just release a $99 "NES NEXT" or something, and develop 8/16/32 bit style retro and indie games, like a real SMB4, Adventure of Link 2, etc. (I know that's my old man retro voice in my head talking, but I'm skeptical that the public will embrace this "hybrid", and at this point handhelds and nostalgia seem to be their strengths).
I kind of feel they should have focused on a pure handheld and as far as consoles go at this point, just release a $99 "NES NEXT" or something, and develop 8/16/32 bit style retro and indie games, like a real SMB4, Adventure of Link 2, etc. (I know that's my old man retro voice in my head talking, but I'm skeptical that the public will embrace this "hybrid", and at this point handhelds and nostalgia seem to be their strengths).
onemanasylum
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Jack of all trades master of none....The software lineup is barren with almost no third party support,and it's overpriced, it's pretty easy to see why it is seen as bad.
Milly Osworth
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It will definately do better than Wiiu. No confusing message this time and sales of 3DS and Wiiu will be combined.
But it wont be a hit.
But it wont be a hit.
...in Japan.
TannerDemoz
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lol at Gaf thinking the price is bad
onemanasylum
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People are in for more disappointment when they realise it is not a portable like 3ds..it is a home console with a portable mode.
For what it is, it is a bad price, and them charging for online with their service is laughable.,
For what it is, it is a bad price, and them charging for online with their service is laughable.,
GhostTrick
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Basically, I have the feeling they keep claiming itns a 3rd pillar in case the thing bombs hard. And it will. At this price, it's not going anywhere.
Not at $300. With its current software lineup, no pack-in game, having paid online like PS4/XB1, and being marketed as a console specifically, I have no reason to believe that it'll perform any better than the Wii U as things are now. I certainly don't see 8-10 million sales by the end of the year as being realistic, more probable if a significant portion of that were to come from Japan treating it as a portable that's also a console there as Nintendo seems to be hoping they'll do, absolutely not if regarded as a console first like everywhere else (Wii U is at less than 3.5 million sold there as it is).
Kssio_Aug
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And how it isn't?
shark sandwich
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LOL. Reading this thread, maybe it's time to create a "__________ will save Switch" chalkboard image.
Manmademan
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Uh...yeah. about that.
The gamecube selling 20 million was only acceptable because the profits from the DS were propping up Nintendo during that period.
There is no DS or GBA to help Nintendo ride out another failed platform. If the switch does 20 million units that's the end of Nintendo in the hardware business, outside of putting out NES Classic like units at budget prices.
DeuceGamer
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This is what I think.
The architecture and design give them a lot of options with various form factors down the line. I also think it will be a big success in Japan with the RPG's, Splatoon 2, etc...
Fallout-NL
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I feel like they had every opportunity to get this thing right after a very interesting first reveal. I was watching this morning's broadcast literally with wallet in hand. But yeah, then they messed a lot of important stuff up.
Biggest issue for me is that they still don't seem to understand where their Wii users have gone and how likely it is they're coming back.
Biggest issue for me is that they still don't seem to understand where their Wii users have gone and how likely it is they're coming back.
For what's being offered....it is.
What if he said Switch will sell 100 million?
HawaiianDreads
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Pretty much sums it up for me, going to play the wait and see game a little while longer before making my decision.
hogendaz85
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Tell that to the Wii U!
why would you say that?
What the hell is that D-pad?
AyraSutoraifu
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Mihos
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It will come out strong as hell, die off quickly due to shortages, probably have a large holiday bump..... then pretty much fade into the background by next January with a few little ripples at games slowly trickle in at maybe 1 good one per quarter.
It will get a lot of fans hopes up with it's launch numbers at least
It will get a lot of fans hopes up with it's launch numbers at least
ViewtifulJC
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Honestly just looking at the situation as objectively as you can. A console that's underpowered and overpriced compared to the already established competition, with Wii U ports people already didn't buy on the last failed console. A handheld that's very expensive with $60 games I assume. Releasing right alongside mass effect and horizon. With very little in the way of third party support except poets of old games like street fighter 2 and bomber man.
I mean
What about any of this makes you think this will be a successful
I mean
What about any of this makes you think this will be a successful
Anoregon
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That would be a nice best case scenario. I'd be happy to see it happen, but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to be optimistic.
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