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CNN: How video games and porn are ruining a generation

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Well... yes :)

Touche.

I'm keeping that picture of Reggie in the quote because it's great.
 

Derrick01

Banned
I remember when rap and metal also caused the downfall of western civilization. Maybe that's why video games aren't doing it...because it already happened.
 
Everything in moderation. 16 hours a day is WAY TOO fucking much except for the occasional binge. And yes, I've binged on a new game. But it's not the norm. The norm is wake up, shower, go to work, realize I'm nude, go home, put on clothes, go back to work, work, go home, shower, relax with the shorty, get -maybe- an hour or two of gaming in that night and go to be.

Weekend it varies depending on what I'm doing. But 16 hours is only reserved for vacations where I'm just staying home and vegging.
 

tiff

Banned
It all sounds pretty reasonable, I'm just wondering why it's limited to just video games and porn. TV, film, music, etc. doesn't tap into the same pleasure centers and can have the same effect on people?
 

stuminus3

Member
There's a very good point to be made here but they fail because a) the "ruining a generation" thing is absurd hyperbole and b) the Breivik stuff. Then I decided it was yet another piece of sensationalist bullshit that does nothing to help people like me who know there's an issue but have nowhere to go to get help with it. They're only making things worse.
 

Emitan

Member
Oh never mind, it's only for guys. I'm allowed as much porn as I want because girls don't watch porn or play games I guess?
 

kadotsu

Banned
It all sounds pretty reasonable, I'm just wondering why it's limited to just video games and porn. TV, film, music, etc. doesn't tap into the same pleasure centers?

The problem is the feedback loop games and porn provide. But TV, especially cable news, is also going in a similar direction with "News Alerts", "Check in with Twitter", "iReport", "Live Polls" etc.
 

Dylan

Member
It all sounds pretty reasonable, I'm just wondering why it's limited to just video games and porn. TV, film, music, etc. doesn't tap into the same pleasure centers and can have the same effect on people?

I think games and porn differ from TV, movies and music because they are both active tasks. i.e. in both situations you are tasked with repeated stimulation of a joystick.
 

d00d3n

Member
They are "arousal addictions," where the attraction is in the novelty, the variety or the surprise factor of the content. Sameness is soon habituated; newness heightens excitement.

I can think of worse standards to live by than the pursuit of novelty, variety and the unexpected.
 
It all sounds pretty reasonable, I'm just wondering why it's limited to just video games and porn. TV, film, music, etc. doesn't tap into the same pleasure centers and can have the same effect on people?

Everything in moderation. Doing ANYTHING for 16 hours a day, every day, is bad. Even work. I've seen marriages fail from the following:

-Infidelity
-Wife wanted hubby to stop gaming even though he was very moderate
-Hubby left wife to marry woman he met in EQ
-Wife cheated on hubby with dude from WoW
-Hubby had a HUGE pron addiction that got him fired and arrested
-Wife worked 16+ hours every day

It's all about moderation.
 
I read that article as saying:
"Men prefer videogames because real life is much less interesting."

Sounds about right to me. Also, N64 controllers.

Much respect to Zimbardo, but he still has a challenge ahead of him: why are videogames and porn only ruining young men?
 

Sye d'Burns

Member
It all sounds pretty reasonable, I'm just wondering why it's limited to just video games and porn. TV, film, music, etc. doesn't tap into the same pleasure centers and can have the same effect on people?

tv - porn
film - porn
music - porn... music

It all leads to

"And the first thing that flashed into my gulliver was that I'd like to have her right down there on the floor with the old in-out, real savage."

bow chicka wow wow

I kid
 

pax217

Member
I could see that porn gives men, and young men, an unreasonable idea of what women should look like... it's probably part of the reason we see girls dressing sluttier and sluttier, younger and younger.

As for video games, games don't make you violent, games don't make you stupid. Some games teach you/make you think more than others do, but nevertheless gaming has little to do with anything but unfinished homework.
 

canedaddy

Member
Some of that isn't total BS. This rings true:

The consequences could be dramatic: The excessive use of video games and online porn in pursuit of the next thing is creating a generation of risk-adverse guys who are unable (and unwilling) to navigate the complexities and risks inherent to real-life relationships, school and employment.
(I'm an old fart, yes.)
 

geebee

Banned
Ridiculous. We all know its the internet thats fucking up this generation. Too many entitled brats that start bitching when they cant get something instantly.
 

thebeeks

Banned
...with the hippin' and the hoppin' and the bippin' and the boppin', so they don't know what the jazz is all about!
 
I don't know about actual brain and psychology stuff but I am pretty sure the post Millennial gens are ruined in different way.

They are not going to be as well rounded. Though the 80s and 90s you had no to little internet or media that allowed self imposed bottlenecks. That was a natural phenomenon before. Your fate was a roll of the dice.

I don't see the issue with porn today cause that is a shallow agreement. You want to get off and many many many available direct paths to that seems helpful to me. That impulse is taken care of and you proceed.

Gaming is more mentally engaging and the lack of being forced to deal with some bumps in the road as a kid is troubling.
 
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