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The Bankslammer · Nov 18, 2013

(I can flesh out the OT with more info later if there's a demand for any, just wanted to move discussion out of the Nintendo Direct thread. It's a bit light on gameplay info, but more can be added if required.)

Daigasso! Band Brothers P
Platform: Nintendo 3DS
Publisher: Nintendo
Developer: Intelligent Systems
Genre: Rhythm/Music Creation/Karaoke

Release Date:
JP: November 14, 2013
NA/EU/AU:

lol

The Band Brothers series returns on Nintendo 3DS with a host of new features to further enhance its music creation and playing gameplay, most notably the inclusion of Vocaloid technology which allows you to create your own singer based on your voice.
In addition, you can now download up to 3000 songs total in the game. Each song costs 1 tomato, with 100 tomatoes packaged in the game, and 10 free for registering on Club Nintendo.
Tomato prices are as follows:

Links:
Song Download Ranking (Allows you to listen to uploaded songs. The closest experience to the game you will have without a JP 3DS!)
Daigasso! Band Brothers P Chotto Nintendo Direct
Song Submission Guildelines (Translation)
Band Bros P Wiki
Allowed Nintendo Music List
9129 Suppon

Let me know if there's anything else that would be helpful to add to the OP.

squall23 · Nov 19, 2013

The website has an extremely saddening lack of SKILL, GONG, and Yuusha Oh Tanjou.

The Bankslammer · Nov 19, 2013

squall23 said:
The website has an extremely saddening lack of SKILL, GONG, and Yuusha Oh Tanjou.

I guess Japan just doesn't like JAM Project anymore!

i could've sworn i had skill downloaded on band bros DX but either i'm crazy or it wasn't updated to support P

Either way, new songs are really just starting to be uploaded so whoooo knowssssss~

Zornica · Nov 19, 2013

Teppic · Nov 19, 2013

I think I'm going to import this even though I can't play it.

It's too bad they're still going with the 100 songs limit and no sharing online. It could have been amazing.

Zornica · Nov 19, 2013

Teppic said:
I think I'm going to import this even though I can't play it.

It's too bad they're still going with the 100 songs limit and no sharing online.

the limit is 3000 songs and there are online modes, and I am pretty sure you can "share" them, at least you can download songs you just played online, or so I heard.

Teppic · Nov 19, 2013

Zornica said:
the limit is 3000 songs and there are online modes, and I am pretty sure you can "share" them, at least you can download songs you just played online, or so I heard.

I really hope you can share online, that would give this game very long legs.

Zero-Crescent · Nov 19, 2013

KNT-Zero · Nov 19, 2013

WAIT WHAT. The Legendary theme from Gitaroo Man??

I have a LOT of hype. Not for this game, but for....

Speedwagon · Nov 19, 2013

"Detective Conan" Main Theme

Glorious.

The Bankslammer · Nov 19, 2013

Teppic said:
I really hope you can share online, that would give this game very long legs.

Online sharing is similar to DX. You make songs and upload, and then from there people can go download them.

The main difference I've found this time is that it's way easier to find new songs because you can actually preview them before downloading, it'll recommend you related songs after you download some, and you can find and download songs that come on the radio or that people have you play in online MP (which I think is a pretty big deal, because online MP lets you play songs you don't have downloaded.)

The browser based song list is pretty helpful too. It has daily song recommendations from Nintendo and weekly themed song collections, this week's being 2000s anime songs, 90s anime songs and classic anime songs (last week had stuff like winter songs and internet songs, it's not all anime!)

jj984jj · Nov 19, 2013

Fullmetal Alchemist OP - Rewrite: http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147625530
Pokemon OP - Battle Frontier: http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147625406
Pokemon Battle Theme: http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147627158
Tales of the Abyss OP - Karma: http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147624892
Lost Odyssey Main Theme: http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147628255
Wild Arms To the End of the Wilderness: http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147627422
Dragon Quest Opening & Name Input: http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147627881

There's a lot of Dragon Quest actually.

The Bankslammer · Nov 19, 2013

Somehow I found my way to Checker Knights from Kirby Air Ride. Huh!

For some reason it seems like a lot of the video game music I played in DX didn't carry over, which is a shame. But yeah, if people keep posting any good stuff they find that would just be super swell. Hopefully more of it is made soon.

Anyways, here's the near-final version of my Ready Steady Go track, on my mission to complete the Ouendan catalog in the game (apologies that it starts a few measures in, you don't really miss much). Volume balance still hasn't been worked on but I'll do that soon. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be more than open to them, as I don't really know shit about music.

moozoom · Nov 19, 2013

Incredible what you can do with this program... the synthetic voice is very good.

love this one : CANDY CANDY ( Kyary Pamyu Pamyu )

The Bankslammer · Nov 19, 2013

i think it's neat that you can get a feel for what music is popular at the moment by going online and seeing what songs people choose
and then the answer is akb48, kyary pamyu pamyu and vocaloid and i think "oh i already knew that"

though through the game i heard invader invader for the first time and it's catchy as hell

ugh now i'm gonna have to go back and wrestle with vocaloid again to get vocals throughout the whole song
siiiiiigh
at least i think i'm almost done

Version 3.0 · Nov 19, 2013

I would import this in a second, just like the last 2, if I could play it. I'm not importing a system, though. Nintendo sucks - twice as much as they used to - for region locking the 3DS, and of course, NoA for not localizing this game.

PaulExcellent · Nov 19, 2013

Zornica said:
I just had to take all the songs from the other thread with me:
(just going to sort it by genre or something...)

Cruel angels thesis (better version) http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/10219

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
THIS NEEDS TO GET LOCALIZED, DAMMIT
FOR GREAT JUSTICE

Soul Beat · Nov 19, 2013

My God! We need this game.

Please NoA!

The Boat · Nov 19, 2013

Fuck region locking.

ne1 · Nov 19, 2013

Damn you Nintendo and your cursed region locks! :'(

The Bankslammer · Nov 19, 2013

i chose import 3ds as my next-gen console

it's pretty neat though. right now i have sayonara umihara kawase, taiko no tatsujin, this, and culdcept via the buy 2 get 1 free promotion club nintendo jp has going on right now. and then there's other stuff too, like dragon quest 7/slime morimori/terry's wonderland, ex troopers, and kunio-kun remakes. also game center cx 3 coming out soon. i really hope a budget jp 3ds comes out so more people get to play these games because all the ones i've played thus far are really fun.
... and yeahhh as much as it sucks there's basically a 0% chance of this coming out overseas when you combine past release history with the new vocaloid stuff
believe me i can attest to how tricky it is to get these fuckers to say anything in english

at the very least i'm really glad there's the online song rankings so people can get to listen to the music

The Bankslammer · Nov 21, 2013

Alright, my first song has been submitted. Evidently it has to go through some sort of approval process before it gets posted, so we'll see what happens! Making a song certainly was exhausting, so we'll see how this one goes, and then whether or not I'll make one again afterwards. Hopefully the feedback will end up amounting to more than "ACCEPTED" or "REJECTED" so I can get an idea about what needs to be fixed.

Sinople · Nov 21, 2013

40k copies sold in the first week... bargain bin confirmed?

There's so many songs I don't know what to download. And I still haven't found the time and willpower to try to compose something seriously. I'm basically doing nothing with my copy, sigh

The Bankslammer · Nov 21, 2013

That's ok, Wonderful 101's JP sales were enough heartbreak to make me impervious to any other disappointing bombas. Plus, I'm having fun with it, so that's really all I'm concerned about.

Yeah, at first I was basically downloading every song I recognized, but now I'm already down to 63 tomatoes after redeeming the bonus Club Nintendo ones so I have to think twice before I decide to redeem any songs, heh. And making songs certainly does require a lot of willpower. More than I'm usually able to build up, at least.

kobashi100 · Nov 21, 2013

props for official thread dude.

LaserHawk · Nov 22, 2013

Sinople said:
40k copies sold in the first week... bargain bin confirmed?

There's so many songs I don't know what to download. And I still haven't found the time and willpower to try to compose something seriously. I'm basically doing nothing with my copy, sigh

I don't have a copy yet, but I feel like I would be in the same situation. The previous game had music coming out for it even up until recently... good songs, too. I worry that I jumped into this early, I'd spend all my tomatoes before some of the best songs hit.

I'll get it eventually.... as soon as I figure out what Japanese 3DS I want.

The Bankslammer · Nov 22, 2013

Man, these guys are thorough with their checking!
I accidentally forgot to change one "ka" to "ga" (which really was an easy mistake I should've noticed) and so it got sent back, ahahaha.
Gonna fix and resubmit! Hopefully it doesn't end up being just the least of my problems, heheh.

Zornica · Nov 22, 2013

The Bankslammer said:
Man, these guys are thorough with their checking!
I accidentally forgot to change one "ka" to "ga" (which really was an easy mistake I should've noticed) and so it got sent back, ahahaha.
Gonna fix and resubmit! Hopefully it doesn't end up being just the least of my problems, heheh.

at least we know now that quality assurance works...

The Bankslammer · Nov 23, 2013

Gosh, I definitely learn new things about the versatility of the composition software all the time. Aside from lacking the proper Famicom percussion sounds, this version of Pollyanna from Mother just sounds crazy accurate. I didn't get DX at launch, so it's been really interesting to see new tracks roll in following the release of the game, and I think it'll be cool to see how the quality of the songs improve over time.

To be honest, I've been so involved in the composition side recently that I have hardly been actually playing any songs, ahaha. The game certainly keeps you occupied. Hopefully between all the games the released today and my hopes of composing some more tracks, I'll still find time to actually play the game part.

Edit: BAAAAH i just noticed a kinda decent sized mistake that got left in my song. You don't really hear it unless you're playing that part but it bugs me that it got in. I can't resubmit again until I get the last results back, so I hope it doesn't pass this time... or they give me the option to confirm it being added. Ugh, I need to be more careful.

Stan64 · Nov 26, 2013

When I download songs I can both see the Vocaloid tracks and hear the singing. But when I play them after downloading it isn't there...?

EDIT: Solved it, you have to record with "your artists" in the right menu somewhere.

Zornica · Nov 26, 2013

new stuff I was able to identify recently:

Digimon Theme
http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/11742

Miku Miku ni shite ageru (new version)
http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/12300

Deleted member 13876 · Nov 26, 2013

I imported the first game along with my original DS. Destroy region locking ffs.

Stan64 · Nov 26, 2013

Even though I don't like region locking and especially that it is kinda new on Nintendo-handhelds it servers no purpose to make multiple posts in this thread about it. It don't move the discussion forward about the game.

Most other people in this thread can play it and have either bought a second 3DS or always had a japanese system. Back in the days you had to do the same for NES, SNES, N64, GAMECUBE and Wii. It's really no different now.

The Bankslammer · Nov 26, 2013

Speaking of songs I'm familiar with, hey, check it out, a version of Ready Steady Go made it! +1 to the number of Ouendan songs, woo!

This is particularly interesting for me because now I have something to compare my version with (I think this might be the latest version I submitted, it still has the mistake, ahaha)! It's helpful to see how someone who actually knows what they're doing handles some of the parts I had trouble with and see what they did differently. Also it's ironic that they ended up mixing the English parts way better than I did, ahahaha.

So now that there's a version of the song up, I'm gonna move on to something else! Need to figure out what to work on. Leaning towards another song featured in Ouendan (probably Kokoro Odoru) or maybe some game music (probably some Gitaroo Man).

@region locking business: I feel that being disappointed in regards to not being able to play is totally justified and it really does suck, but yeah, that's been voiced plenty in this thread already. I encourage people without JP systems to enjoy checking out and sharing songs on the website! It's a rad resource!

Stan64 · Nov 26, 2013

I saw that version. It was really good. =D

I want more Nintendo-songs in here and gonna check through which Donkey Konga songs I can find in the database. =D

stabi · Nov 26, 2013

Zornica said:
ＣＨＡ－ＬＡ　ＨＥＡＤ－ＣＨＡ－ＬＡ (Dragon Ball Z OP1) http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2415929172

Ok I was not ready and laughed at how the "sparking!" is rendered

The Bankslammer · Nov 26, 2013

2 seconds into trying to write a guitar part and i'm already confused as hell ahahaha

andymcc · Nov 26, 2013

Zornica said:
I just had to take all the songs from the other thread with me:
(just going to sort it by genre or something...)

Anime
Attack on Titan OP1 http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/10646
ＣＨＡ－ＬＡ　ＨＥＡＤ－ＣＨＡ－ＬＡ (Dragon Ball Z OP1) http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2415929172
Cruel angels thesis (better version) http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/10219
God Knows (Haruhi Suzumiya) http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147624776
Haruhi Suzumiya OP1 http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147624780

Games
Rythem Heaven DS? http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147626245
Rythm Heaven DS? http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147627460
Rythem Heaven DS? http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147626245
Rythem Heaven DS Remix 3 http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147627654
Rythm Heaven DS Remix 4 http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147628437
Rythem Heaven Wii Remix 2 http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147626293

Ouendan? LINDA LINDA LINDAAAAAA http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147624738
Ouendan 1 - Horse stage http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147625751
Ouendan 1 - Student stage http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147625761
Ouendan 2 - Doctor stage http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147625711
Ouendan 2 - Ice Skater stage http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2415929193
Ouendan 2 - Childhood Crush stage http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147624867
Ouendan 2 - Boy Band stage http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147625062

Starry Heavens (ToS) http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147624995

Music
miku miku ni shite ageru http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/10556

Movies
Battle Without Honor Or Humanity (Kill Bill1) http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147627620
Godzilla Theme http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/10542

Random
no idea what this is http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/10558
NYANYANYANYAN http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/10235
gitaroo man? http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147626843
Popstar http://bandbros-p.nintendo.co.jp/music/musicDetail/index/2147625711

hope I didn't forget anything

just a correction. Linda Linda is actually a song by the Blue Hearts.

There's a great Japanese coming-of-age film centered around this song.

kobashi100 · Nov 26, 2013

Stan64 said:
When I download songs I can both see the Vocaloid tracks and hear the singing. But when I play them after downloading it isn't there...?

EDIT: Solved it, you have to record with "your artists" in the right menu somewhere.

where is this found?

The Bankslammer · Nov 26, 2013

andymcc said:
just a correction. Linda Linda is actually a song by the Blue Hearts.

There's a great Japanese coming-of-age film centered around this song.

It was just categorized like that because I had posted a list of songs featured in the Ouendan series and Linda Linda was one of them.

kobashi100 said:
where is this found?

Go to Kyockefeller Center, then to blue icon labelled "レコーディング"

Keyouta · Nov 26, 2013

What the fuck you can make custom tracks to share online and download? God damn I would so buy this if it wasn't region locked.

The Boat · Nov 26, 2013

I hate region locking.

Teppic · Nov 26, 2013

Can you play the voiced part of the song like a normal instrument?

The Bankslammer · Nov 26, 2013

Teppic said:
Can you play the voiced part of the song like a normal instrument?

Voiced sections go on top of an instrument track, which determines its tune, and you can play both the instrument track and the vocal track separately. The only issue is that Vocals are their own difficulty that is basically equivalent to beginner and are played by sliding a mic around the bottom screen to catch notes as shown here. It's... not very fun.

in other news how the fuck do you decide what instrument a voice sounds like, ahahaha

wheapon · Nov 26, 2013

Man, I imported the first of these on the DS and I'm pretty sad I can't import this one due to the region lock. :/

Huge disappointment-maybe they'll localize it as an eShop-only release. Hah...

Zornica · Nov 26, 2013

The Bankslammer said:
in other news how the fuck do you decide what instrument a voice sounds like, ahahaha

most of the time it's either a trumpet or a sax... at least that was the most common instrument used in the original for that purpose.

The Bankslammer · Nov 26, 2013

Zornica said:
most of the time it's either a trumpet or a sax... at least that was the most common instrument used in the original for that purpose.

I suppoooseeeee, but this is a hip hop song so it makes it kinda tricky, ahahaha.

For reference this is the song. I'm gonna need to do 5 different voices, heh.

Deleted member 13876 · Nov 26, 2013

Stan64 said:
Even though I don't like region locking and especially that it is kinda new on Nintendo-handhelds it servers no purpose to make multiple posts in this thread about it. It don't move the discussion forward about the game.

Most other people in this thread can play it and have either bought a second 3DS or always had a japanese system. Back in the days you had to do the same for NES, SNES, N64, GAMECUBE and Wii. It's really no different now.

It's totally different. The SNES had cartridge converters, the Gamecube had Freeloader as did the Wii before firmware updates bricked it. I'm stating my frustration because I really liked the first one, but buying a second system for this game is financially irresponsible. Listing how a bunch of old systems had the dumb restrictions is besides the point, it's 2013 and Nintendo's reluctance to get with the times is one of the things holding the company back the most. Won't bitch about this further than that, but I did want to voice my frustration and hope this does reach other regions at some point.

chadi · Nov 27, 2013

Thanks for the recommendations posted above. I've downloaded a few of them.

Might post some of the stuff I found as well.

Crash55118 · Nov 27, 2013

The lyric sheet for Nyan Cat is killing me. I think I may have to import a 3DS at this point.

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