That's just not fair.people comparing sales of MS biggest IP to a new IP like Death Stranding, sad
compare MS biggest IP to Sony's biggest IP, God of War, which probably sold more than all xbox 1st party combined last gen
Sitting on my digital copy, patiently waiting for the $10 upgrade to PS5. This is how you do it, not forcing consumers to buy the stupid thing all over again. Looking at you FF7R and Greedfall.
Sorry, PS+ owner here.??
My final fantasy VII remake from launch upgraded to the PS5 version at no additional cost. You only have to buy the DLC if you want, nothing else.
I'm one of those people, I played it for an hour or two.
I need to stop buying games for their hype.
And protected by the Higher ups on era. They must be on the payroll too.Yes all of that in his clown campaign. That along with KatharsisT also talking shit on Death Stranding’s development and telling us Silent Hill will be shown on this, this and that event and conveniently blaming Covid for it no show since say August.
They were a circus act.
And protected by the Higher ups on era. They must be on the payroll too.
Many IPs will see their original creators leave. It happened with Halo 2, God Of War, GTA Ect.not an outright flop but not as big as it used to be. not surprising for halo after the original creators left. many of the fans left with them. many casuals left too after cod 4 modern warfare. 343i aint a good replacement imo. they're an average studio.
I think GT Sport sales are 8 million down from GT5 11 million. Next, you'll be saying R&C on the PS4 was a flop tooGt sport sold over 10mil copies. Also community is active as ever. And it's a spin off. Watch the numbers 7 will pull.
Halo 5 is failure that's why they rebooted.
Deal with it.
Next, you'll be saying R&C on the PS4 was a flop too
Many IPs will see their original creators leave. It happened with Halo 2, God Of War, GTA Ect.
It was a huge decline, but 343 apologists continue to say that Halo 5 was a big success for MS.Maybe because halo is a very well known and popular franchise and Death Stranding is a new and quite particular ip ? also that 5 millions for Halo 5 is a failure compared to the sales of the old Halo ?
I'm sure that santa klaus payed for mads mikkelsen and the other hollywood actors apparitions...You don't need to be a genius to understand that DS budet was much MUCH smaller than any other Sony first party studio games.
Using the in house engine, approximately 100 ppl working, ~ 3 years of development.
These are borderline indie numbers when you consider the size of a typical AAA company.
Just by looking at the game itself you can immediately see all the cut corners. Copy-pasted bunkers, copy-pasted bases, only about 3 different models for human enemies, a couple of bosses, one bike, one truck, a few tools, no day night cycle, almost all story cutscenes happening in the same locations etc.
Selling 5 mill is a good number for a game like that. Conclusion? Kojima genius.
GTSport have around 14 million created... no Beta included.I think GT Sport sales are 8 million down from GT5 11 million. Next, you'll be saying R&C on the PS4 was a flop too
Imagine if a franchise loses 2/3 of it user base... that can be called a big success?It was a huge decline, but 343 apologists continue to say that Halo 5 was a big success for MS.
Detroit BH had a $37 million budget and that had Hollywood actors in it too. Kojima Studio is much smaller than Quantic Dream.I'm sure that santa klaus payed for mads mikkelsen and the other hollywood actors apparitions...
If kojima wasn't so in love with hollywood maybe we would have a better far more varied game because let's be real, famous actors do nothing for the likeability of a character since we can argue that the made up characters in mgs saga have like 10x times the charisma of the DS cast without having hollywood faces...
Sure it probably doesn't have tlou2 or gow budget but it is probably not far from other big sony games.
The fact that it doesn't have a sequel simply means that sony doesn't want to risk again, you can only fool a lot fo people with kojima name for the first title of a saga, not 2.
Not saying that the game is trash, but people is naive if they don't think that at least 70% of the copies were sold thanks to kojima name\daryl from twd on the cover.
Given your avatar. I wouldn't expect any lessLol whut? I don't get the point of comparison
GTSport have around 14 million created... no Beta included.
Yet it never seems to be an issue when Nintendo hand out out IP to totally different developers. I actually thought that Sumo Digital did a better job with Sackboy than Media Molecule. Hal0 5 wasn't a bad game, it was a terrible focus on 4 player co-op and trying to tell a branching story from different points of view than hurt the title so much IMO.not the entire studio though.
Given your avatar. I wouldn't expect any less
Yet it never seems to be an issue when Nintendo hand out out IP to totally different developers. I actually thought that Sumo Digital did a better job with Sackboy than Media Molecule. Hal0 5 wasn't a bad game, it was a terrible focus on 4 player co-op and trying to tell a branching story from different points of view than hurt the title so much IMO.
Certainly, How well did Ratchet and Clank sell on the PS4?. Better than the PS2, PS3 versions?Please do me the honours of explaining then
If you're capable of course
That is questionable sales data. And like saying Sea of Thieves is massive given it's got over 10 million players, whilst many on here say that MS doesn't have any 1st part games that sell.
Certainly, How well did Ratchet and Clank sell on the PS4?. Better than the PS2, PS3 versions?
I belive the PS4 sales were down on what the series sold on the PS2 or PS3 and nowhere near 5 million of Halo 5. I guess that must mean it floppedWell it was Insomniacs most successful game before Spiderman, so maybe?
And giving me a question isn't explaining anything lol
I belive the PS4 sales were down on what the series sold on the PS2 or PS3 and nowhere near 5 million of Halo 5. I guess that must mean it flopped
That be clever since it seemed not to break the 2 million sales barrier. I gather 343 said that Halo 5 sold well.So you believe and you haven't actually looked?
It was the fastest selling insomniac game and the most successful according to the developer.
A budget $40 game does not need to sell anything equivilient to Halo 5
That be clever since it seemed not to break the 2 million sales barrier. I gather 343 said that Halo 5 sold well.
Can you prove otherwise?Oh okay and you know it hasn't broken 2 million how?
Can you prove otherwise?
I honestly can't find any proof of the game selling better than the PS2 or PS3 versions. By all means prove otherwiseYou want me to prove your unproven claim wrong? Mate that's not how this works lmao
And besides, we have the devs saying that it's their fastest selling, and most successful title pre-spiderman, so that's evidence on my part. What's yours?
I honestly can't find any proof of the game selling better than the PS2 or PS3 versions. By all means prove otherwise
the devs saying that it's their fastest selling, and most successful title pre-spiderman
Because the game has a trail version.That is questionable sales data. And like saying Sea of Thieves is massive given it's got over 10 million players, whilst many on here say that MS doesn't have any 1st part games that sell.
Show me sales dataWhat part of
Do you not get?
Show me sales data
LOL, what about Forza Horzion 4 apparently that's got over 7 million players.Yet another huge seller for MS *rollseyes*Because the game has a trail version.
GTS not.
Let's explain the difference here.LOL, what about Forza Horzion 4 apparently that's got over 7 million players.Yet another huge seller for MS *rollseyes*
So that's a NO then. Thanks....Why are you asking me to show you the data when you brought it up first?
Ok JimLet's explain the difference here.
Both FH4 and Sea of Thieves has a Demo/Trial that can be played for an amount of time without need to pay anything... you win even achievements and so it is counted as a player... you don't need to have access to the paid game copy to enter into the "players".
GTS doesn't have that.
GTS had a Beta but the Beta only profiles have a Status saying it was played just in the Beta phase... today there is around 500k profiles that are Beta only... after a Beta profile plays the final game it change status.
So GTS actually has around 14.5 million PSN accounts that played the game... from these ~500k are Beta only.... around 14 million have access to a fully paid GTS copy.
That is why I said from the 14 million players in GTS you have family/friend sharing, used copies and duplicated PSN accounts... do you believe 6 millions are of these? I don't.