AstroNut325
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Wait... the Xbone version is getting a day 1 patch that adds graphical effects? Is the PS4 version getting similar treatment?
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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
- Thread starter shinobi602
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He's always spreading misinformation lol. Spin city, spin spin city!
StoppedInTracks
Member
I love crushed blacks *shrugs*. Cannot imagine playing Demon's Souls the other way.
Snapshot King
Member
Is it outrageous for me to assume this will me at least slightly improved by the games launch due to optimization? Or is it too late for that.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
In some of the pics half the detail on the screen is literally lost in the darkness but whatever more contrast! more sharpness! vivid mode hooray!
SniperHunter
Banned
BF3 dipped on pc too...no problems there
Dopey, pls.
Sword Of Doom
Member
The PC looks blurry to next to the XB1
Micromegas
Member
Can some kind soul post a summary for those that actually had to sleep last night? What's the poop?
The PS4 version already has what's being added to the XB1 version (AO) and still runs better.
Some people are speculating that the XB1 version might take a further hit in framerate because of the new shit.
They will further optimize it, but they will also add Ambient Occlusion, which might give another few FPS drops.
SwiftDeath
Member
Actually isn't it likely that with the extra effects being added to the XB1 version for launch it will result in a less stable framerate?
they are ADDING AO (and possibly more). So I would have to guess that there is almost no chance for a FPS improvement between now and launch.
clem84
Gold Member
That's what I'm seeing too.
Some of the textures seem more detailed on XO. The XO signal is also a little darker with better color definition.
In the framerate comparison video, XO is also ahead in some sequences. PS4 is ahead in others.
So... what's the explanation? PS4 is slightly more powerful. Was the PS4 version botched?
Some people fall for artificial contrast and sharpness. It's the same method used to make cheap TVs look better in stores than high end sets.
Portugeezer
Member
Video was of PS4 multiplayer, so no AO addition is needed.
But it was near final build, so not much room for improvement until launch. The drops in multiplayer will remain, but as I said dips to 40-50fps is still better than 30fps locked.
NoirVisage
Banned
are you still on like page 2? serious question, read leadbetters rebuttal to get an idea of what people are saying.
54 pages in, and people are still making posts like this...
EatinOlives
Member
Looks like it works, even in 2013, regardless of image quality or resolution. Crush dem blacks and torch those whites and omg looks better than literally everything else!
Snapshot King
Member
I'm referring specifically to the PS4 version multiplayer. It'd be nice if they could get the framerate up above 50fps most of the time. I don't think that's too pie in the sky hopeful, though if they don't get it this time, they probably will next time.
Xenon
Member
When they are both being scaled up to 1080p, to me it is, at least from what I have seen so far. Who knows maybe live the difference will be more noticeable.
This will be the fuel for fan boy rantings for years to come. It's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out.
Truthfully neither system has a game I must own. But I must own a new system! So I am picking the one that most appeals to me.
Ah yeah, no clue how much focus they have on optimizing the PS4 version. Who knows.
Have you guys read this thread at all?
The reason the colors on XB1 look the way they do is because of the way DF captured the footage. It has nothing to do with the PS4.
Yeah. Could be one of the reasons why MS has an embargo in place. Makes sense.
PS4 looks better than X1 as expected.
PS4 has higher fps, higher resolution and way less jaggies.
Green Yoshi
Member
XBO does a good upscaling job, so I don't think I will notice the difference between XBO and PS4 on my HDTV. PC-version plays in another world though.
In these GIFs XBO looks prettier:
In these GIFs XBO looks prettier:
Prisoner KSC2-303
Member
Sorry to be pedantic, but it's running 33% less pixels.
PS4 version runs at a higher res with a better framerate, and has more effects. Xbox One hardware has issues with full range HDMI support that lead to Digital Foundry posting some pretty terrible captures, unlike every other website.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
The DF video capture was botched. Check other outlets for comparison and the difference is vastly in favor of PS4.
well, it still works to sell TVs at best buy also. in 2013.
People don't want stuff to look realistic. They want it to be BOLD AND POPPING OFF THE SCREEN.
About the only thing the XBONE didn't have from the "showroom TV" typical settings is the red push. lol.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Yup. Same with the overkill sharpness. I think the best way to compare PS4 vs Xb1 is to compare each to the PC since that is what DICE intended the game to look like.
Also, the close up pics show a sharp image for the XB1 but if you look at small distant object you can see the less detail present cause of the 720p
SwiftDeath
Member
Maybe? I would've said at this point it was unlikely any major optimization between now and launch but they're already promising the XB1 some effects so who knows? Maybe they can further optimize the PS4 version a bit
deranged_666
Member
Isn't DF like experts at this kinda stuff? How did they mess it up so bad?
Also, I see a lot of the PC people saying midrange gear runs the game better. While I admit the PC version is leaps and bounds above the console versions (as it should be), I'm still waiting for someone to build me a gaming PC that can run these games at full 1080p on a reasonable quality setting for $399.
Also, I see a lot of the PC people saying midrange gear runs the game better. While I admit the PC version is leaps and bounds above the console versions (as it should be), I'm still waiting for someone to build me a gaming PC that can run these games at full 1080p on a reasonable quality setting for $399.
Pound_lb003
Member
So... If you genuinely believe this was intentional, you need to spend some time off the internet to let the crazy wear off. Don't interpret this post as me probably being a fanboy. Interpret it as me, a fellow human being. If you think this was done to misrepresent the disparity you need a break.
I'm just saying we should be expecting better after 8 years of sub full HD and we are still there. The hardware if these two systems should be that big of a learning curve considering the components they are using in them.
tfur
Member
Much much larger difference than last generation. We all expected the Xbone version to be the inferior console version and it has come to pass.
I do think DICE worked hard to mask the faults of the Xbone well, but it easily looses via image resolution, image effects and frame rate to its console competitor.
It is honestly hard to see anything of value with the compressed dark videos, although it seems all of the text of the previews across the board give the victory to the ps4.
PS4 = 1
Xbone = 0
up next COD.
I do think DICE worked hard to mask the faults of the Xbone well, but it easily looses via image resolution, image effects and frame rate to its console competitor.
It is honestly hard to see anything of value with the compressed dark videos, although it seems all of the text of the previews across the board give the victory to the ps4.
PS4 = 1
Xbone = 0
up next COD.
I'd say so. If anything, just to get people to realize that DF blundered the capture process. Because it's apparently too much to ask that people read the OP. Which brings me to my next point:
Shinobi, can you explain the DF situation better in the OP? It doesn't seem to be sinking in and the thread is just repeating itself. Nauseating.
Dreams-Visions
Member
People shouldn't be suprised that based on some of these screens, the XO version is some people's preference. It's the contrast.
It's like...the reason why HDTVs on show room floors at stores are running in "torch" mode with silly high contrast rather than reference-quality accuracy: colors "pop" when contrast is exaggerated, and your average person interprets more "pop" as more "quality".
Same story with a lot of laptops, which are designed intentionally with more contrast than they should have.
Define, "reasonable quality setting"? You could do that for a couple hundred more and make up that investment difference with the free AAA games that come with whatever video card you buy, and paying $20-$50 for new games instead of $60-$70 like you have to on consoles. And you'll never have to worry about backwards compatibility.
It's like...the reason why HDTVs on show room floors at stores are running in "torch" mode with silly high contrast rather than reference-quality accuracy: colors "pop" when contrast is exaggerated, and your average person interprets more "pop" as more "quality".
Same story with a lot of laptops, which are designed intentionally with more contrast than they should have.
Define, "reasonable quality setting"? You could do that for a couple hundred more and make up that investment difference with the free AAA games that come with whatever video card you buy, and paying $20-$50 for new games instead of $60-$70 like you have to on consoles. And you'll never have to worry about backwards compatibility.
this thread moves fast...maybe they are on dial-up lol
Shinobi better cut out those flawed DF screens from the OP, they are doing more harm than good.
sorry to disappoint you
You seeing those pics on a good screen? Yesterday was viewing them on 1440 x 900 TN screen but well above native the Bone looks over sharpened.
PanicFreak
Member
Would you have it any other way?
If it makes things any better, the bus they threw him under was going at 60mph instead of 30.
do you play on a hd-ready tv?