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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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Crimson_Gold
Member
In layman's terms they increased the sharpness and color of the XB1 footage.
Backfoggen
Banned
Just pointing out that his pic is not great evidence
No, its not. And i watched it 3 times.
For example up to the point of this screen, game runs on both systems in locked 60fps, except for few seconds when it drops on PS4 to 52-54fps.
After this point for a whole another minute of the video You have locked 60fps on both platforms, except for heavy fps drop on PS4 for 2 seconds and two small drops on Xbone for half second [2-3fps].
So how is this screen consistent with the video?
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Maybe watch the video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWzkw32amOM
It is max 2-4fps difference. It actually is locked 60fps for a most of the time, which is quite impressive if You ask me.
Xbone footage uses sharpening and contrast/colour saturation to mask where it's worse.
You can get that "look" by changing your tv settings
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
I wonder how the Xbone version holds up during 64 player MP gameplay.
PS3
-higher resolution
-better AA (or just better due to resolution increase)
-PC quality AO
-higher overall framerate
-softer image (due to no sharpening filter) (arguably fixed via TV settings)
Xbone
-sharper image (due to some sort of sharpening filter)
-AO will be added for launch
if the xbone is your only console, you probably won't be dissapointed, but if you have the luxury of choice, PS4 version is better across the board.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
XO versions jaggies add an extra grittiness to the proceedings, making for a more believable warlike experience. RL wouldn't be so pristine if you were at war. think about it!
Portugeezer
Member
So is this the only sub 1080p game on PS4? (besides Order 1886, but don't get me started on that discussion again please)
If so, I can live with that as they are doing large maps, 64 players, land/air/sea vehicle warfare, destruction, 60fps (with dips to low 40's but still much smoother than 30fps)
If so, I can live with that as they are doing large maps, 64 players, land/air/sea vehicle warfare, destruction, 60fps (with dips to low 40's but still much smoother than 30fps)
DF fucked up, don't trust their comparison, watch the IGN vid.
shinra-bansho
Member
I believe the TL;DR version is basically that the DF images and video were only captured with a limited RGB range and with some sort of sharpen filter applied.
If you really do like the look of it you can achieve the same effect with your television settings by essentially cranking up the sharpness and contrast, or limiting the consoles output to limited RGB [this was a feature on PS3 I think, so presumably will be there on PS4].
Just as an example, this is a picture someone posted of Killzone Shadow Fall
http://abload.de/img/2bksfi.jpg
This is an image where I limited the colour depth and applied a sharpen filter:
http://abload.de/img/2bksfilhi6q.jpg
EmCeeGramr
Member
I hope that they also patch in some of that great Motion Flow stuff that makes the game 120 fps. I saw it at the Best Buy and it looked so smooth and rich.
Its called black level which DF messed up...one is more washed out, other black crushed
You can crush the blacks and sharpen the picture on ps4, if you want to. As has been shown, time, and time and time again.
The One Who Knocks
Member
The biggest thing that we have learnt is that the Playstation 4 version also has a better overall framerate. Alone, this probably would not be hugely significant, but that this coincides with the higher resolution is quite damning. The lack of Ambient Occlusion on the Xbox One would have been very interesting news but we have, of course, learnt that this will be added. This does mean that the framerate, which is already at a disadvantage, may be further impacted (to say by how much it will impact it though, if at all, would be surmising at this stage). All of this indicates that there is quite a gap between the two versions and suggests that the Playstation 4 may contain the better multiplatform versions of games for the majority of the generation (but of course we need to wait for more comparisons to see if this will be a consistent trend). EDIT: There has also been a large discussion on 'crushed blacks' and 'sharpening' but this seems pretty irrelevant overall.
BruiserBear
Banned
Yeah, it is interesting to note that with the PS3/360 the biggest resolution differences were generally 660p vs 720p, and even that was rare.
Here we already have a 900p vs 720p difference, and we know Ghosts is likely going to be 1080p vs 720p. Most people don't know it, but the resolution gap there is massive compared to the previous gen differences we saw.
Have to say from the seeing the images on first glance, the difference seemed to be much smaller than what I was expecting.
But after looking at a lot of the videos that have hit the web, it's quite easy to see that the PS4 version is the superior one.
Works out fine for me as that's the system I'll be getting first anyway.
KimonoNoNo
Member
What's the point of having all these video comparisons, if the game's graphics are going to be altered post launch?
The screenshots in the OP don't appear to have the screwed up contrasting but does have the XO's sharpening. That's the only thing I can think of that will alter your judgement because the PS4 looks "softer" when in reality it looks more accurate to me. The resolution and AA is very noticeable. I'll be playing this on a 46" and a 65" 1080p tv's so I would notice is greatly.
Both will have same quality of AO.
And slightly better framerate, at least in SP. MP could be another beast.
I would generally wait for retail comparison if You'll have access to both consoles and care mostly about framerate. If You dont care about fps that much, You dont have to wait, because PS4 will be definitely better for You.
BigJoeGrizzly
Neo Member
???
I don't really understand this line of reasoning from people on this topic. No one has suggested the PS4 won't continue to be optimized (its a guarantee that it will). People were questioning the frame rate staying as good as it is for the Xbone version after the HBAO update has been added. That caused people to logically assume that the devs had made further optimizations to the Xbone version to allow such a feature to be added. That's all there is to it, the PS4 and its optimizations don't even need to factor into that argument, because its not even about the PS4 in this case.
And will be shown again, once a thread reaches 15 pages, the last 5 pages simply repeat themselves again and again, unless new information comes to light.
Canis lupus
Member
posted yet
I'm guessing most of the "I like the XBONE version better" people still have their TVs at mostly factory settings. Thus they already have contrast at max, backlight at max, brightness at 50% and sharpness at somewhere between 50-100%.
In other words, when they plug a PS4 into their TV it will largely look like the XBONE version does in those video.s
In other words, when they plug a PS4 into their TV it will largely look like the XBONE version does in those video.s
Black Mantis
Member
It looks great to me as well. If it had a longer SP campaign (not a big fan of military shooters, so I like to blast through SP once and skip MP), I'd buy it.
This is one intense launch. I think it's going to be a really bloody console war this gen. The Ten Years War, if you will.
From what I can tell, the X1 version is better if you just watch the footage. The PS4 version is better if you look at benchmarks and worry about frame rate. Of course, that's just the single player. I'm very interested to see how the X1 multiplayer footage compares.
From what I can tell, the X1 version is better if you just watch the footage. The PS4 version is better if you look at benchmarks and worry about frame rate. Of course, that's just the single player. I'm very interested to see how the X1 multiplayer footage compares.
velociraptor
Junior Member
It practically looks the same as the PC version. That is why I'm so shocked.
posted yet
Man, you can't even see the bird properly in the xb1 version.
velociraptor
Junior Member
posted yet
Where is this from? PS4 version clearly looks superior here.
However, images in OP show the XO version are sharper.
Metalmurphy
Member
Then you're full of shit.
First frame drop, PS4 starts behind because there's an explosion PS4 and none on X1, as soon as theres an explosions on the X1 too it falls immediately behind and it stays like while the rubble/smoke is present, PS4 mainlining 60. These aren't brief moments either.
Second, start of building colapse, PS4 behind, no doubt about it, can't really understand why either.
Third, the roof tops, X1 falling behind several times for periods of 5 seconds or so.
4th, cutscene, both drop, X1 drops more every time for long periods.
5th, boat gameplay, same as above although the gap isn't as big (although it gets bigger on character closups)
6th, tank, again more drops for X1, there's only 1 for PS4.
cheezcake
Member
From what I can see the Jackfrags PS4 videos look quite a bit better than the beta did on my OC'ed GTX 570, I wish there was an FPS counter somewhere on the screen though
i assume it's had it's sharpness altered to match the sharpness of the xbone version, something potentially achievable on a TV.
This one is jarring as fuck.posted yet
Glad I haven't pre-ordered BF4 for any platform yet.
The PS4 image in that gif got the post processing treatment by a user to show how the ps4 version can look once you change the settings on your TV to the same sharpness and saturation that the X1 version already has applied.
Basically, all the people saying they prefer the "look" of the X1 version, should still get the superior PS4 version and change their tv settings to match their taste.
shinobi602
Member
Can you do this with the rest of the screens in the OP Canis? DF fucked up.posted yet
Looks like PS4 screenshot was given a sharpen filter ...
plagiarize
Banned
It's the only confirmed one. The only other launch title that seems questionable at this point is Need For Speed Rivals, since it's using the same engine as this, but since it's 30 fps instead of targeting 60, it could still be 1080p.
If anyone has a good confirmation on that either way, I'm unaware of it.
Liamario
Banned
The footage we have seen is compressed garbage. Any preference for the xbone version has been based on your standard tv contrast and sharpness settings and blind fanboyism. Unless we get some uncompressed video and or properly calibrated images, any comparisons aren't going to be worthwhile.
That said, where the hell is all the 60fps footage!!!
That said, where the hell is all the 60fps footage!!!
shinobi602
Member
Not really, but it does look damn good. I don't know why so many think these consoles are pieces of shit lol. Look at the visuals of the rest of the games coming to them, they look phenomenal. We're just seeing the tip of the iceberg.
Yes it was, plus more saturation.
plagiarize
Banned
Honestly, I am sick and tired of watching these videos on youtube, IGN and Gamespot. so much of the next genness gets leached out of them by horrible bitrate and 30 fps.