MMaRsu
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Why? tlou 30fps mode is bad.
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DF Performance Analysis: Diablo 3 at 1080p on Xbox One
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Why? tlou 30fps mode is bad.
If MS had simply pushed for 1080p without supporting Blizzard, then I think it would be fair to criticise. But as it is I think they should be supported. The framerate drops seem very minor and the increased resolution should be clearly beneficial for a game like this with small details
intentionally imho
PsihoPerihelion
Member
I'd rather have a solid framerate, even if there isn't much of a difference when you get into the low 50's. MS knew they could not get the exact same game as the PS4 did. Why didn't the lower the shadow's resolution or something to get 1080p + 60fps?
MMaRsu
Banned
It may go further down the more the action intensifies tho. This test was done in single player story mode.
I'm still in the 100s here with the latest update. Or maybe you meant the graphics are different ?
Hawk269
Member
people should but then they would nothing to bitch about so it will be ignored. I am more interested in the code they were given to allow about a 40% or so jump with some minimal performance impact. That is the real story here that will get lost in the "hey look..more stuff to bitch about".
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I think having sharper visuals makes the low framerate more obvious. The PS3 version had much softer imagery.
If I had a One, I would personally have taken 900p over drops, because you might as well hook your XB1 up to a 720p monitor instead of a 1080p one.
They made the right decision regarding the XB1.
A native 1080p on a 1080p display is vastly superior to a few nigh-perceivable frame drops.
The clarity and detail of a native resolution is absolutely a big deal with a stylized, detailed and busy game like D3.
If you have a choice PS4 is obviously the best choice but it's not like XB1 owners are getting a unplayable port or some shit.
A native 1080p on a 1080p display is vastly superior to a few nigh-perceivable frame drops.
The clarity and detail of a native resolution is absolutely a big deal with a stylized, detailed and busy game like D3.
If you have a choice PS4 is obviously the best choice but it's not like XB1 owners are getting a unplayable port or some shit.
funkystudent
Member
Want to see some late game analysis.
The stuff on screen gets pretty nutty towards the end of the game.
The stuff on screen gets pretty nutty towards the end of the game.
FullMetaltech
Member
This. Either way your gonna play the game on the system of choice you bought it for.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Yep, stop this 1080p craziness. We don't need it, the difference isn't significant enough based on games I've seen on both platforms, games still end up looking incredible, and the worst case scenario is that it could negatively impact games.
Sure, the drops don't seem too insane or anything, so they may very well get away with it in this particular case, but I wouldn't like this to become a growing trend or anything.
edit: And as others said, it's good MS at least assisted them with the development.
quantumnerd
Member
People are forgetting that displays don't output arbitrary FPS, they output 60 FPS, so 50 FPS means that about 1/5 of the frames will be duplicated (causing micro-stuttering) on top of the pain caused by frame rate variability. It's not the end of the world, but it's definitely worse than the small amount of blurriness you get from 900p.
You can't honestly believe they would make a game unplayable for the sake of resolution? This boggles my mind.
... and? What do you think your TV does when it's not being fed a new frame by the console? Displaying a black screen?
AndyMoogle
Member
It drops frames when barely anything happens. The game throws way more stuff at once later on higher difficulties and with more players.
To be fair it sometimes happens fairly randomly. In DF's review, framerate goes crazy in TLoU:R at some point with not much going on the screen, and is absolutely fine in other, seemingly more taxing circumstances.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
I don't think anyone is "complaining" about the drop into the 50s, more that the only reason it does is because they sacrificed it for resolution.
I'd assume Blizzard planned for that and toned down mob density accordingly. Hell, they might have had to tone it down since enemy AI is server-side on PC and the new consoles' CPUs aren't the greatest.
If the number of enemies in rifts is somehow unchanged, then yeah, both current-gen versions would probably drop plenty of frames in that scenario.
Yes I have, and no, it's not smooth. It's particularly noticeable when the character moves around.
So every game out there must bother you. That must suck.
So every game out there must bother you. That must suck.
There's a difference between noticing something and being bothered by it.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Is this true? Doesn't make any sense to me as PS+ covers all accounts local to a PS4.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Options are great, but there was absolutely no reason to run TLOU Remastered at 30fps unless you changed it for just that one encounter where dipped to 48fps. It was 60fps 99 percent of time. Or maybe you just like prettier shadows.
I wonder if the simplified HUD etc helps to keep the FPS more stable during those hectic MP moments? Surely they must have tested 4 player co-op right?
This "minimum framerate" bullshit is also getting on my nerves. It does not tell anything about the general performance of a game. Digital Foundry should do histograms, so we know how long a game stays at particular framerates.