gaming_again
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Don't forget blowing $2bn on a theme park.
They still don't get why people don't like them. It ain't there being too many releases.
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Disney is reportedly learning from their misses and will try to focus on quality over quantity.
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They still don't get why people don't like them. It ain't there being too many releases.
balls of snow
Member
Hopefully Disney's fortune will remain bad until the next century.
So all sequels or prequels. I'm guessing that's not going to work out well for them. These are franchises with established fan bases that are tough to please. I think focusing on new things is a better idea but it's too much of a risk for shareholders.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Why not? It made them billions with Marvel and Star Wars.
If they paid billions for Pokémon or Star Trek then they could create more cinematic universes to make billions.
They could also "cross the streams", so make films and TV shows that combine all the IPs they own.
Imagine a Star Wars Vs Star Trek film or Pokémon Vs Marvel.
It makes financial sense.
Fbh
Member
This just sounds like "We'll double down on sequels and do even more reshoots and focus testing!"
It makes financial sense in that they are extracting more money from these franchises than what they paid for them. They have made more than $4 billion from Star Wars since acquiring it.
But in the long run I don't know how sustainable this practice of buying IP and running it into the ground by over milking it with low quality content is going to be.
At some point there won't be any more big franchises to buy, they'll have killed the excitement about everything they bought and they won't have the skill set to create new franchises
It makes financial sense in that they are extracting more money from these franchises than what they paid for them. They have made more than $4 billion from Star Wars since acquiring it.
But in the long run I don't know how sustainable this practice of buying IP and running it into the ground by over milking it with low quality content is going to be.
At some point there won't be any more big franchises to buy, they'll have killed the excitement about everything they bought and they won't have the skill set to create new franchises
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Billbofet
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Good call for sure. I have noticed my kids and friends' kids actually see right through this low-quality bullshit and move on.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
His words don’t match his actions. He just green lit a bunch more marvel stuff for their tv shows. they are just pivoting content to Disney plus which is already hemorrhaging money. Im
Thinking this is more about accounting than it is about content. It’s going to get worse. Not better.
Thinking this is more about accounting than it is about content. It’s going to get worse. Not better.
Billbofet
Member
It has to be money laundering at this point, seriously. Frozen 3 & 4, live-action Moana, Rey trilogy (vaporware), and these Avengers movies that will probably cost $400M just to produce and get less than half of what Age of Ultron brought in - and that was with characters that were beloved.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
And Fire all the blue hairs
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I know exactly what you mean and it's the best movie Ive seen in the last ten years. Wound up relating a LOT to it because of a specific sports coach I had growing up. Also made me a Miles fan.
Krappadizzle
Member
Dural
Member
Yep, I've said this many times here; Iger is the reason for this downfall and it will continue with him and his cronies still there.
Disney's wildest ride: Iger, Chapek and the making of an epic succession mess
Here's the inside story of the executive chaos at Disney over the past few years — and how it could shape the fate of the iconic entertainment company.
www.cnbc.com
This article tells all about the BS going on in the background with management plotting against the CEO at the time, at the behest of Iger. I feel like our only hope at this point is Nelson Peltz with the help of Ike Perlmutter getting board seats and trying to steer the company in the right direction as both of them seem to care about the Disney legacy. I doubt he'd even want to return (maybe if Iger was gone), but if they could get John Lasseter to come back there could be a big turnaround with the animation studios.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They need to keep the freaker streakers out of their children parks while they're at it.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
This is Disney, so the course correction is going to be hiring specifically non white actors or some shit.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I said in my post that it gives them the ability to weather blows that would sink other companies.
Let me know when they shut their doors and shut down.
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GymWolf
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You have to love the ball berry, love the ball like you love your own balls.
Sleep with the ball, make love with the ball, caresse the ball, the ball is your life, berry.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
This is where mixing IPs could be a better bet than buying a new IP at the moment.
Avengers Secret Wars is coming up, which will end the multiverse saga. Where to go after that?
Well what about 10 films and multiple TV shows based on:
Marvel x Star Wars x Disney.
Secret Wars could be the introduction of this. Rather than having just a bunch of Marvel characters, have Start Wars and Disney characters make an appearance, such as Darth Vader fighting iron man in the background of a scene, or Mickey Mouse winking at the camera during a huge battle? Think of the money this would make?!
If that doesn't work, then go insane buying as many mega IPs and then merging them all together.
Disney, if you're reading this, I'm willing to be in charge to oversee this new Golden Age.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Noticed the same with my kids. I think propaganda is just boring. You can really tell the difference between a story based on archetypes and themes that resonate with you vs a story filled with some activist’s clumsy moralizing and virtue signaling. Even kids can tell the difference although they might not be consciously aware of it.
Plus with these live action remakes, even the ones that were faithful to the original feel really joyless and overly long. I think my kids watched the live action Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, and Lion King 1 time each before going back to the animated ones. The only one they come back to is Jungle Book (2016) which was pretty good.
Billbofet
Member
Our Disney+ sub was up in mid-October. I had paid the year in advance, so I ended up canceling a renewal as the price skyrocketed to $140/year. Forgot to tell my kids, but they haven't even noticed since no one has fired up the app in months.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Good idea, think I’ll do the same. The only thing my kids really watch are Big City Greens and Bluey but they haven’t watched either in probably a few months. Otherwise we only use Disney+ to watch something we already own because it’s easier than getting up and putting the blu-ray in lol
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Let’s not forget Haunted Mansion and Peter Pan & Wendy which bombed as well this year.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
"It got worse..."
But was started and allowed to run under him. He's just passing blame when he could have nipped it in the bud from the get-go.
Hopefully the pendulum comes a swinging in all industries, however.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
If true then yeah it’s pretty encouraging that he would say that so candidly.
Still skeptical they can turn it around though. At bottom I think Disney is now filled with people who have absolutely no clue why their classics (and the fairy tales and mythologies they’re based on) resonated with people through the generations. Or what makes for a good story at all. It’s not like you can just tell these people “alright don’t push The Message so hard” and they’ll start making better stories.
Like, if you think you can take Peter Pan and make Wendy from a motherly figure into a girlboss, and have girls in the Lost Boys, you just fundamentally didn’t understand what the story was about.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
Even though he's admitting it, I dont expect anything to change. Action speaks louder than words. We shall see if he gets rid of the Feminazi/SJW Politics in the MCU and Star Wars. I doubt it
Happosai
Hold onto your panties
Quality means more personal politics and rehashes of franchises done to death. Great. Time to sign up for Disney + again. Many forget that Disney's poor direction started with Iger as CEO. Him returning isn't just going to float things back as this isn't a CEO exclusive decision. Just PR to assure investors that they didn't have a really bad year and 'there, there...we'll bring you more money in 2024.'
NoLootBoxDev
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Laieon
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Dural
Member
This has always been their reasoning for the DEI bullshit (they dont think its politics its just right). Chapek specifically wanted to stay out of politics, Iger doesn't. He thinks he could be president, thought he would be Disney's savior last year then run for president after defeating the mean DeSantis (not going to happen btw). Things aren't going to plan so he's getting desperate, he hasn't had any sort of change of heart he's just saying whatever can to try and help the stock. Just watch their content and you'll know nothing has changed, all the same creative decision makers are there. They need to clean house, all creative directors fired.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Yea but 99% of parents don't care about the messaging so why does it matter? /s
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
AJUMP23
Gold Member
Disney has also built pixar and marvel so it isn’t beyond reason that they could build again.
Star Wars they just don’t understand. They hired good directors but did not build a coherent story. And they let rain Johnson write and create absolute garbage.
Konnor
Member
Holy shit, what a lying sack of shit. Part of the reason Chapek was removed was because he tried to control the woke creatives so they brought Bob back, the one who started all this bullshit. This scumbag has been blaming Chapek for decisions he made for months now.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Nothing is going to change. They are all too terrified of being ‘cancelled’ on social media.
gaming_again
Member
Nothing will change because their of their hiring practices over the last decade. The whole company will be riddled with lunatics from the top to the bottom.
Dural
Member
As funny as that sounds, that's exactly what is going on. In that article I linked earlier from CNBC it specifically says they released Strange World knowing it was going to bomb because they didn't want to upset the LGBT community. They had to bend over backwards to apologize to a community that they're not making money off of when Chapek didn't want the company involved with politics with the Florida bill. It's a bunch of loud narcissists on social media (and in their company) that they were bowing down to. They treat the LGBT community as if they all think the same and those loud idiots are the voice for all of them. I still don't think they understand that losing families is why they're losing money (along with a bunch of shit content).
Reckheim
Member
what did they do?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Probably true. Like most people or companies who publicly go all out with political slants. The US is roughly 50/50 red and blue in voting, yet when it comes to social media you'd think the country is 95/5 blue.
Best thing to do IMO is just be chill and dont go blazing around town trying to score brownie points. Its such a crock too. Because on Linkedin I see tons of current and ex-coworkers doing their usual BS comments or likes or leadership/motivation post. Add that to their glammed up photo they paid someone to do and you'd think these people (both men and women) are the most qualified cool people to work with or work for.
Go out to lunch with them or know them after work hanging out and they are the biggest pigs saying dumb shit both generally or behind people's backs.
Cyberpunkd
Member
As my mother said:
1. There are people who work hard, but absolutely neglect making a lot of noise about it
2. There are people that are shit but are great at doing their own PR
3. Very few people are both
You see how it is on LinkedIn because this makes those people hired.
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