BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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I have always wondered which one GAF prefers.
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DMC3:SE or Ninja Gaiden Black?
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jacob armitage
Banned
They are both excellent entries but i'd give my personal nod to Ninja Gaiden Black.
CrackPebbles
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marvel8797
Neo Member
dmc3:se.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Black
Always and forever, Black
Always and forever, Black
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Personally I prefer DMC3's combat and I like the way NG feels like a adventure game. I think both are equal overall.
Infernoabyss
Member
Ninja gaiden black for sure! I played that game so many times. If only I unlocked the original trilogy games =[
AuthenticM
Member
Black.
Everything about it is super polished, and the combat is super tight. The game is a masterpiece.
DMC3 is a terrific game, but there's less polish and tightness. It's a little more mashy than Black.
Everything about it is super polished, and the combat is super tight. The game is a masterpiece.
DMC3 is a terrific game, but there's less polish and tightness. It's a little more mashy than Black.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Both.
They actually compliment each other perfectly.
They actually compliment each other perfectly.
lordchompy
Member
NG:B is first among equals.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Dmc3se for me. I prefer the combo system and enjoyed the boss battles a lot more. Virgil 3 is one of my favorites of all time on dmd mode.
The One and Done
Member
Dmc3 SE is arguable the greatest action game ever created.
The_White_Rose
Member
Both at the same time
mullet2000
Member
DMC3 is an absolutely excellent game.
However, Ninja Gaiden Black is on the short list of the best games ever made.
However, Ninja Gaiden Black is on the short list of the best games ever made.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Both are fantastic games but I prefer DMC's combat. Gunslinger in DMC3SE is amazingly fun.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
For me, DMC3 has a GREAT battle system, but it outclasses the rest of the game, if that makes sense? Most of the enemies seem to fall into training dummies or just annoying flying fuckers, the level design is only ok, some of the bosses are pretty ass, the buttrock battle music that plays throughout the entire fuckin' game gets old halfway through the fifth stage...I really like DMC3, but I've never loved it, even when I'm working on S-Ranking DMD and Royal Guarding Virgil 3.
NGB was the complete package, for an action-adventure game. The enemies, the more open level design, the wonderful balance between defense/offense on combat, the little puzzles, the visuals. And mothafuckin' Mission Mode. And great difficulty modes, that change up the enemy layouts/attack patterns instead of the usual "the same, but now they take twice as much damage/deal twice as much damage".
It's going to come down to personal style and personal preference. Each one features sublime combat in its own way. People will simply prefer one over the other because of their own pre-dispositions.
DMC3:SE features unbridled freedom, variety, movement, and expression in combat with a focus on style.
NGB is all about deliberate and precise combat, focusing on quick, savage efficiency.
Non-combat-wise, I think NGB scratches that itch for an adventure game, whereas DMC3 has a better story and bosses. People who claim "it's not even close" are ridiculous. There's a reason these two are in the holy trinity of action games.
CrackPebbles
Member
They really do complement eachother perfectly.
All the things I love about 3 are almost opposite of what I love about black when it comes down to it. And they both are fucking excellent in those regards.
The defense vs offense analogy is really accurate. And not just in regards to the nuance in dmc3s heavily technical, combo heavy style vs black's elegant, efficient, and brutal style. There is more to it than that.
I can't even get mad when someones says they prefer one over the other.
All the things I love about 3 are almost opposite of what I love about black when it comes down to it. And they both are fucking excellent in those regards.
The defense vs offense analogy is really accurate. And not just in regards to the nuance in dmc3s heavily technical, combo heavy style vs black's elegant, efficient, and brutal style. There is more to it than that.
I can't even get mad when someones says they prefer one over the other.
Deadpool_X
Banned
Personally, I prefer Ninja Gaiden Black. That will forever be my benchmark for action games like those.
DMC3:SE is pretty freaking special, though, too. It's the best DMC, and the best action game on the PS2, in my mind.
DMC3:SE is pretty freaking special, though, too. It's the best DMC, and the best action game on the PS2, in my mind.
What's the third one? Bayonetta?
J_Macgrady
Member
Why you trying to start trouble man?
I'm always going to prefer DMC3 over NGB, but I recognize that NGB's enemy design is superior to DMC3 in almost every way. However, the combat system for DMC3 is just that damn good and it has one of, if not, the best story out of all the Japanese action games. Ryu is bad mofo, but NG in general doesn't have a colorful cast of characters like DMC.
I'm always going to prefer DMC3 over NGB, but I recognize that NGB's enemy design is superior to DMC3 in almost every way. However, the combat system for DMC3 is just that damn good and it has one of, if not, the best story out of all the Japanese action games. Ryu is bad mofo, but NG in general doesn't have a colorful cast of characters like DMC.
Yes.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Outside of GoW, Japanese developers own the genre, period. It was probably defined on the PS2 and the Xbox to an extent (fewer games in the genre).
I agree to the fact that NG had longer appeal. Dante is amazing, but his humor underplays the seriousness of the game. NGB however polishes everything DMC3 misses.
I can't say either one is greater, but surely both games have not been beat outside their studios. I think when Itagaki left, their studio lost its focus and the passion to make NG great.
DMC3 is probably the better game in terms of content. I personally think it takes more skill to play. NG is like one or two attacks.
*NG is jump + attack... slice head off... go in for a Izuna drop. DMC is a whole pallet of moves.
I really need to pick up that game. The only one I'm missing from the trinity then.
So far my third game would be God of War 3.
Nocturno999
Member
DMC 3 has a more compex combo system and Ninja Gaiden Black felt faster and it has more adventure elements.
Both have great boss fights.
Both have great boss fights.
sixteen-bit
Member
Black is beautiful
Spring-Loaded
Member
hm. I prefer DMC3, but I never played the SE, only the basic version with the "Normal=Hard" normal mode
The cutscenes are fantastic, and help push DMC above NG for me. I love that fat dude with the laser cannon from NGB though.
The cutscenes are fantastic, and help push DMC above NG for me. I love that fat dude with the laser cannon from NGB though.
NG:B. I really dislike the facing-sensitive controls of the DMC games.
Deciding between NG:B and Bayonetta is a little tougher. I enjoy Bayo's combat and graphics slightly more, but the "bonus" levels are garbage; NG:B has more interesting enemies/bosses (although Jeanne is excellent) and somewhat interesting platforming.
Deciding between NG:B and Bayonetta is a little tougher. I enjoy Bayo's combat and graphics slightly more, but the "bonus" levels are garbage; NG:B has more interesting enemies/bosses (although Jeanne is excellent) and somewhat interesting platforming.
IdreamofHIME
Member
NGB
I remember playing DMC after beating Black and was totally shocked at the lack of a block button. I was all seinfeldnothanks.gif at it
DMC is the stronger series though, as perfect as NG/NGB were...they can't carry the sins of the rest of the series. DMC only has DMC2 to drag around.
I remember playing DMC after beating Black and was totally shocked at the lack of a block button. I was all seinfeldnothanks.gif at it
DMC is the stronger series though, as perfect as NG/NGB were...they can't carry the sins of the rest of the series. DMC only has DMC2 to drag around.
MidnightCowboy
Member
Both are among my favorite games of all time. I like the weapons in DMC3 a lot more, as well as the cutscenes, while I prefer the movement and precision of Ninja Gaiden. It's hard to say which I like more.
From a pure combat standpoint, Ninja Gaiden 2 is still the king for me.
From a pure combat standpoint, Ninja Gaiden 2 is still the king for me.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
nvm