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[Epsilon-delta]

If this was a tv show, it would be cancelled after the first episode for being too unrealistic.

Yea, basically.

Hopefully 2020 and beyond are much better for general elections.

This is a shit show.

 

[SchrodingerC]

Please let the door hit your ass on your way out.

 

[Fantastical]

I'm curious as to what steps were taken next after the signal was found considering they don't have the device.

 

[Altairre]

Well of course. This election is either the best soap opera or the worst.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Link?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump

 

[DragonSworne]

Yea, basically.

Hopefully 2020 and beyond are much better for general elections.

This is a shit show.

Nothing is going to change unless the Republican party changes for the better.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

This is the election of a lifetime, wow. I don't think I'm ever going to see another shit show like this.

 

[StickSoldier]

I'm gonna pray that something good goes our way BEFORE the election. We are supposed to have attacks in three different states, our own government is sabotaging a presidential candidate, Trump is friends with Russia, Isis and others are attacking in Mosul.. This world is going crazy, I dont' know what direction it's heading in but I'm a bit scared.

 

[NobleGundam]

Emails are way worse

YOU CAN SEND AND RECIEVE THEM

AND DELETE THEM

 

[Wilsongt]

I dunno if I believe this... Didn't MotherJones also break the story about the Russian and Trump computers talking and that turned out to be a pile of nothing and lies?

 

[Tagyhag]

This is just, people need to go to jail Jesus Christ.

 

[Rebel Leader]

AND DELETE THEM

AND CHAINMAIL THEM

 

[TheOMan]

I dunno if I believe this... Didn't MotherJones also break the story about the Russian and Trump computers talking and that turned out to be a pile of nothing and lies?

It did? Can you link me a story on it being debunked?

Edit: Nevermind, googled it - well, that dude messed up a bit, eh?

 

[BocoDragon]

Holy shit this election has been a cruel farce. People are animals.

 

[Rentahamster]

The second sweep, according to the Democratic officials, found a radio signal near the chairman's office that indicated there might be a listening device outside the office. "We were told that this was something that could pick up calls from cellphones," a DNC official says. "The guys who did the sweep said it was a strong indication." No device was recovered. No possible culprits were identified.

Uh, shouldn't that title be "DNC headquarters might have been bugged"?

 

[Izuna]

#watergate

 

[tuxfool]

I dunno if I believe this... Didn't MotherJones also break the story about the Russian and Trump computers talking and that turned out to be a pile of nothing and lies?

The communication thing was a Slate article. It was a pile of inconclusive.

The Mother Jones article asserted that Trump was compromised by Russia. That was unconfirmed, but supposedly evidence was handed into the FBI. The only denial of that came from other unnamed FBI sources in a NY Times article.

Given the state of the FBI we can't be really certain either way.

 

[Rhomega Beta]

"I welcome this kind of investigation, because the people have got to know whether or not their presidential nomiee's a crook. Well I'm not a crook."

 

[Wilsongt]

It did? Can you link me a story on it being debunked?

Edit: Nevermind, googled it - well, that dude messed up a bit, eh?

Donald Trump's possible ties to Russia were the subject of four notable news reports in a matter of hours Monday night. If you're going to read one, you should really read them all. Or just read this.

All of the stories — published by Mother Jones, Slate, NBC and the New York Times — fit together. Alone, any one of the first three could seem explosive; as a collective, the group is inconclusive.

The Mother Jones report is based on the claim of an unnamed "former senior intelligence officer for a Western country who specialized in Russian counterintelligence." This person told the liberal magazine "that in recent months he provided the [FBI] with memos, based on his recent interactions with Russian sources, contending the Russian government has for years tried to co-opt and assist Trump — and that the FBI requested more information from him."

The former intelligence officer also told Mother Jones that according to his sources, "there was an established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit."

The notion of "an established exchange of information" is consistent with Slate's report that a computer scientist — given the pseudonym "Tea Leaves" in a story by Franklin Foer — discovered what appears to be regular communication between a Trump computer server and a bank in Moscow. "Tea Leaves" and his colleagues, who originally set out to monitor cyberattacks, concluded that "this wasn’t an attack but a sustained relationship between a server registered to the Trump Organization and two servers registered to an entity called Alfa Bank."

The Times report lends credence to the others, yet blunts their significance at the same time. Did the FBI take the electronic communication described by Slate seriously? Sure, but the bureau "ultimately came to doubt" it. Did the FBI scrutinize Trump advisers like Manafort, as reported by NBC, and hunt for the kind of connection between Trump and the Russian government described in Mother Jones? Yes, but so far there is no "conclusive or direct link."

The Times story leaves open the possibility that the FBI could yet discover something more troubling. And it, like the other three reports, is based on anonymous sources.

But on the whole, after all that ink, it would be hard to say that we know anything more definitive about Trump and Russia than we did before.

So they reported on information, but not a lot of substantial evidence point to anything going on.

Don't get me wrong, I want nothing more than Trump to be taken down with gusto, but it doesn't seem a lot of threads are connecting strongly...

 

[epmode]

No devices were recovered, no definitive proof. Thread title is premature.

 

[UnObtainium17]

Wow. What a fucking shit show this election has been.

 

[devilhawk]

I apparently didn't read the same article that everyone else did.

 

[Wuthering_Heights]

Oh, no device found?

Sounds like nothing, then.

 

[commedieu]

(For some of their actions, O'Keefe and his crew have used people posing as volunteers to gain access to Democratic outfits.)


...

What?

 

[MIMIC]

I don't know anything about radio signals, but is it typical to detect a bug without finding the device?

 

[Intheflorsh]

I don't know anything about radio signals, but is it typical to detect a bug without finding the device?

If it's a stingray it wouldn't even need to be inside the office.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker

 

[Lightning_Roller]

This election never ends. What the hell.

 

[Deku Tree]

If the FBI gave it to the CIA then they had reason to believe that its international espionage. Wonder if they gave it to the NSA?

 

[Rentahamster]

I don't know anything about radio signals, but is it typical to detect a bug without finding the device?

It's possible, IIRC.

(For some of their actions, O'Keefe and his crew have used people posing as volunteers to gain access to Democratic outfits.)


...

What?

That's how they were able to secretly record those SuperPAC people who were bragging about how they goad people at Trump rallies to become violent. Those people were subsequently fired.

 

[MIMIC]

If it's a stingray it wouldn't even need to be inside the office.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker

Ohhhhhh....I see.

 

[Not]

There's no way to fit all of this into one 3-hour movie

 

[ArchedThunder]

There's no way to fit all of this into one 3-hour movie

It'll be a TV show on AMC in 2023.

 

[Maintenance]

Nah, HBO, written by Aaron Sorkin.

 

[CHC]

Fuck this shit can't it just be Tuesday already jesus fucking ugggghhhh

I once had the energy to follow every stupid-ass development but this shit just feels like a TV show that should have wrapped it up two seasons ago.

 

[MIMIC]

"Sources indicate it was the FBI"

whatatwist.jpg

 

[Brakke]

Why are they reporting it to the FBI whenthe FBI is confirmed to be working for Trump. I don't get it

"Confirmed".

Uh, shouldn't that title be "DNC headquarters might have been bugged"?

Yeah this is overselling.

 

[broncobuster]

I want to see Joe Biden given lead in this investigation.

STRAIGHT. MURDER. AND. FIRE. IN. HIS. EYES.

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Make it happen.

 

[Rentahamster]

YEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!!

*cue music*

 

[Nightbird]

Woah....

Trevor Noah was right, the big stuff always drops on a Friday o.o

 

[Chie Satonaka]

For FUCKS sake.

What's next?

 

[epmode]

For FUCKS sake.

What's next?

Next would be finding proof that it actually happened, not just speculation.

 

[kess]

Hoho, Clinton is so establishment, government agencies are conniving against her

 

[Mollymauk]

FBI: Sure, we'll get right on that.

 

[Wuthering_Heights]

Next would be finding proof that it actually happened, not just speculation.

This entire election has been full of people going crazy about things that don't have any proof behind them.

It's more fun that way.

 

[Jacksinthe]

Hmmm.

I'll need proof before jumping to conclusions (as easy as that is to do). If it was a 3-letter organization I would expect a warrant to be in order and a damn good reason to do it.

Still scary to read, though.

 

[Chiggs]

Well, we all know it wasn't Bernie Sanders.

Or was it?

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Previously on Homeland...

 

[Arkeband]

No device was recovered.

uh... so... they weren't bugged?

 

[Vincent Alexander]

uh... so... they weren't bugged?

I thought (maybe I'm wrong) they were saying they couldn't find the device it was transmitting to...?

 

[Rentahamster]

I thought (maybe I'm wrong) they were saying they couldn't find the device it was transmitting to...?

They found a radio signal. Which could be something. Or could be nothing at all. There are radio signals everywhere. It doesn't say if this particular radio signal definitely has the markings of something more sinister. All we have to go on is heresay.