FUNKNOWN iXi
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This is along my line of thinking as well.
You may actually be onto something.. Microsoft the new Nintendo? When's the NX (Nintendo Xbox)?
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Do you want exclusives for Scorpio?
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Lockjaw333
Member
It won't be that way. They will for sure have titles that they debut at E3 or after that are launch titles for the Scorpio, but they will also have xbone versions. Probably one purchase that is scalable across Scorpio, xbone and also PC with play anywhere. To me it's fairly obvious that is the direction they are heading.
So I do think Scorpio is a new gen, just their games model has changed to a play anywhere model (PC/Scorpio/xbone).
So I do think Scorpio is a new gen, just their games model has changed to a play anywhere model (PC/Scorpio/xbone).
Fleshfeast
Member
I do want them, but I don't expect them.
I'm expecting something like this:
Scorpio games will support XB1
Scorpio 2's games will support Scorpio
Scorpio 3's games will support Scorpio 2
Sort of like mobile games. I can play brand new games an older model iPhone, but they might not run as well. Some newer games won't play if you're more than a generation or two behind. Hell some indie game with simplistic graphics could come out for the Scorpio 5 and still work on XB1 because it's just not that demanding.
I'm expecting something like this:
Scorpio games will support XB1
Scorpio 2's games will support Scorpio
Scorpio 3's games will support Scorpio 2
Sort of like mobile games. I can play brand new games an older model iPhone, but they might not run as well. Some newer games won't play if you're more than a generation or two behind. Hell some indie game with simplistic graphics could come out for the Scorpio 5 and still work on XB1 because it's just not that demanding.
Ha, I'm almost the exact opposite. I'd want to see something wild that requires the power boost for me to considering joining the X1 family at this point.
BananasWithGuns
Member
I have to imagine the only way a Scorpio exclusive would happen would be if/when the XB1 just straight up can't run it.
Really though, as long as developers are taking full advantage of Scorpio then I'm not bothered either way.
Really though, as long as developers are taking full advantage of Scorpio then I'm not bothered either way.
immortald3ath
Member
Exclusives or not, the jump needs to be bigger than ps4 to ps4 pro. that's all that matters to me.
A decent number of people have already bought a PS4 Pro and Sony barely marketed it. There is definitely an audience for these kinds of mid-gen consoles. It's not gonna make up the majority of the install base but it should be big enough to justify their existence.
Nameless
Member
Yup. Obviously there will be stuff with Microsoft's inevitable VR solution/partnership that will require a Scorpio, but the loophole there is clear.
CanUKlehead
Member
If this happens, it's either New 3DS with a handful of exclusives that do nothing but will probably piss off the fanbase, or a lot of exclusives that basically mean this is a new console that will probably also piss off the fanbase.
And I don't know which of the two is the worse case scenario.
So, no, I don't want exclusives. For how many PS4 Pro versions there are with varying quality, I prefer that approach.
And I don't know which of the two is the worse case scenario.
So, no, I don't want exclusives. For how many PS4 Pro versions there are with varying quality, I prefer that approach.
This post is pretty much exactly correct.
Iva Demilcol
Member
Yes, Scalebound
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get2sammyb
Member
As funny as it would be, it would backfire massively. Every single pub will be building with PS4's nearing 70 million install base, while Scorpio would be starting from an install base of zero.
Nope, not while the Xbox One is still being supported. After supporting MS since the original Xbox they have done nothing but irritate me this generation. Their exclusives are the same games I've played for a decade and their new IP's are forgettable or cancelled.
I'd be okay if they started making Scorpio exclusives once the next consoles launches. However, if they start releasing 2018 exclusive Scorpio games I probably will stop supporting them and just move to PC. It would be cheaper.
I'd be okay if they started making Scorpio exclusives once the next consoles launches. However, if they start releasing 2018 exclusive Scorpio games I probably will stop supporting them and just move to PC. It would be cheaper.
Don.Abbade
Member
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LordBaztion
Member
Yes I would like to see games not holding back anything but I understand it would be bad for MS, so better if they don't.
VR games are going to be scorpio exclusive.
VR games are going to be scorpio exclusive.
isaacnukem
Member
And risk the wrath of old Xbox One owners? Not worth it, I think.
BouncyFrag
Member
I'd rather it have a lot of updates for already released titles, especially 3rd party ones as well as further optimization for backwards compatible games.
ghostwritingduck
Member
I'm hoping for an eventual Scorpio 2 and a target of you will need at least a Scorpio 1. This should be gradual over the corse of years though.
Raven77
Member
I most definitely do. I barely touch my X1 cause I have little reason to owning a ps4. I want the xbox Scorpio to have some incredible exclusives that go far beyond what PlayStation pro can do.
It's going to have exclusives, from a business standpoint it simply has to. Way too much invested in it. It is not a somewhat minor bump in power like the pro. They need people buying it in droves for years, not for just the first few months. Microsoft is watching pro sales numbers like a hawk and I doubt they are impressed. It's selling well but it's very competitively priced and priced far lower than we've been lead to believe the Scorpio will cost. If the pro barely moves more units than xbox then the Scorpio, if viewed in the same light as the pro - an incremental upgrade - won't stand a chance.
Just speculation...
It's going to have exclusives, from a business standpoint it simply has to. Way too much invested in it. It is not a somewhat minor bump in power like the pro. They need people buying it in droves for years, not for just the first few months. Microsoft is watching pro sales numbers like a hawk and I doubt they are impressed. It's selling well but it's very competitively priced and priced far lower than we've been lead to believe the Scorpio will cost. If the pro barely moves more units than xbox then the Scorpio, if viewed in the same light as the pro - an incremental upgrade - won't stand a chance.
Just speculation...
Yes and we're probably going to see them actually.
They are so far behind right now that the scorpio on it's own is not going to do anything to that. You can't go "hey it's stronger but the same games that are on the one will be on here". The larger consumer base won't understand it as just as a mid get bump to the specs, they would expect the new thing to do new things.
They will start with "hey every game has to be downwards compatible" but at some point one of their big guns is going to need the extra power that the scorpio can bring that the one just can't and they'll give them a pass and then more will want to as well.
You also gotta realize that the next iteration of the playstation will probably hit in '19 or '20, so is MS going to match them? can they really go "hey you paid a premium for this new box 2 years ago, we're doing it again in '19" just to keep pace with sony that soon after?
They are so far behind right now that the scorpio on it's own is not going to do anything to that. You can't go "hey it's stronger but the same games that are on the one will be on here". The larger consumer base won't understand it as just as a mid get bump to the specs, they would expect the new thing to do new things.
They will start with "hey every game has to be downwards compatible" but at some point one of their big guns is going to need the extra power that the scorpio can bring that the one just can't and they'll give them a pass and then more will want to as well.
You also gotta realize that the next iteration of the playstation will probably hit in '19 or '20, so is MS going to match them? can they really go "hey you paid a premium for this new box 2 years ago, we're doing it again in '19" just to keep pace with sony that soon after?
Pokemaniac
Member
The lack of exclusives is the worst part of the PS4 Pro
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(and Switch being a hybrid)
They're still doing well though, right? I guess they could always be doing better but with 360 and X1 they seem to be always moving along at a good pace.
Knightmarre
Member
Nope, otherwise 26 million people will be pissed.
Movalpolos
Banned
How else are they going to sell it?
XB1S is already "The 4K entertainment system" and will likely be $200 less.
XB1S is already "The 4K entertainment system" and will likely be $200 less.
Raven77
Member
Fantastic post. The business reasons are there and they will not be ignored. Expect exclusives.
I don't understand why people think tons of gamers would be mad. By release time it will have been 4 years...same time between the original xbox and the 360.
It's not a mid gen system. They will change their messaging on this by e3 or during it.
jacob armitage
Banned
I really think having exclusives, especially large scale ones, on a mid generation hardware refresh would be a pretty bad idea and bad PR for Microsoft.
LukasTaves
Member
No. even when I'm getting one I would like the xbone to be supported for as long as possible.
Gamezone
Gold Member
It's possible to support it forever.
DangerMouse
Member
Unlike original Xbox, people were just convinced this holiday to buy an S on the promise from their execs that the Scorpio won't have exclusives.
I could see a lot owners finding that to be a slap in the face for them to go back on that so fast.
CanUKlehead
Member
Not saying I'd like that as an XB1 owner (I wouldn't), but I do wonder about the ramifications of a new Xbox in 2017, ie. If Sony will start ramping up PS5 to be released sooner--and maybe two years after PS4 Pro--or if they'll hold off anyway, as they of course are the only ones who can say when a new generation starts
(Edit: This is assuming they weren't going to have a PS5 by holiday '18 anyway, which I think makes sense)
Battlechili
Banned
I don't think exclusives benefit anyone, so no. Not even the benefit of being able to make fancier games is worth it. Just allow the game to run worse on lower end hardware and let customers know that so they can decide how to play the game based on their own options available to them.
I agree, exclusives aren't going to benefit anyone. Every game you can play on Scorpio will also be playable on Xbox One (and Xbox One S). People have the option of playing Xbox games at their best on Scorpio and Microsoft ought not to confuse that issue.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
Doesn't matter. I'll have it so if it does ok
Cookie Dough
Member
Scorpio exclusives that don't appear on the standard Xbox One that aren't VR games would be a highly effective way of trashing the Xbox brand.
When XB1 came out we had cross gen games for quite a long time because of the installed base of 360 users
Why would you have exclusives for Scorpio when the jump in performance is less then 360->XB1 and you'd be losing tinge XB1 users?
With engines being scalable there is no reason not to also support XB1. Maybe they could emphasise or push Scorpio more and accept worse performance on XB1, but I don't see completely exclusive games
Spacecowboy77
Member
As long as they are on PC as well, no problem
VendettaRed07
Member
Given how some Xbox One exclusives have been selling it would probably be a terrible idea to further limit the audience of who they can sell these games to.
It would only makes sense for scorpio to get exclusive games if MS planned on Sega Saturning' the One and killed it early, starting over with a new console/branding. But that clearly isn't what they are doing.
It would only makes sense for scorpio to get exclusive games if MS planned on Sega Saturning' the One and killed it early, starting over with a new console/branding. But that clearly isn't what they are doing.