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Dragon Quest IX nearly finished.. And more Wii software!
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I would be very disappointed if there were no defined characters in the game. I know it worked in Dragon Quest III, but I think that it's been to the series' advantage that they've moved beyond that in the years since, and I think Horii and his team have gotten very talented at creating fun, interesting characters that make the journey through his worlds more enjoyable.
I'd also be extremely disappointed if the game is too multiplayer-focused and doesn't have a single-player experience on par with prior entries in the series.
I'm hoping neither of these things are the case. Yes, I know they're being very secretive and quiet on the game, but I'm going to maintain a level of hope and optimism here.
I'd also be extremely disappointed if the game is too multiplayer-focused and doesn't have a single-player experience on par with prior entries in the series.
I'm hoping neither of these things are the case. Yes, I know they're being very secretive and quiet on the game, but I'm going to maintain a level of hope and optimism here.
It's efficient and cost-effective to use the DQIVr DS engine for all 3 remakes.
Well, Ethel, if DQVII were ported to the DS, I would hope some of its subsystems would be heavily overhauled. Getting those hybrid skills (human jobs) is such a fucking task. And an almost total waste of time.
Well, Ethel, if DQVII were ported to the DS, I would hope some of its subsystems would be heavily overhauled. Getting those hybrid skills (human jobs) is such a fucking task. And an almost total waste of time.
Mejilan said:
Of course it is. But DQ4 and 5 have had substantial remakes before, and these are just ports. DQ6 has never been remade before, ever. Horii's always said that his goal with initial remakes is to give the player a genuinely improved experience in all ways. Considering that DQ6 fans have been waiting for a remake using 8's engine ever since 8 came out, I think it's safe to say that they'll be pretty disappointed unless the 6 remake uses the Joker or 9 engine, however unlikely that may be.
I'm about 80% sure 6r will use the 4r/5r engine, myself, but I don't think it's fair to DQ6. It deserves the extra-special attention to its first remake that all of the other games have gotten so far.
Portability is a pretty huge big deal, and I think that would be sufficient to satisfy the "adding new features" bullet point. Hell, I think it was even mentioned in an interview excerpt quoted earlier this thread that they consider DQIX's portability one of its best NEW features.
Not at all likely. Maybe on the PSP2, however.
On that topic, though, I'd kill for a DQVIII port on the PSP. Especially now that I'm effectively done with DQVII. It's been about 2 years since I finished DQVIII, but I just can't be arsed to dedicate more console time to it (I have over 100 hours on the clock).
On that topic, though, I'd kill for a DQVIII port on the PSP. Especially now that I'm effectively done with DQVII. It's been about 2 years since I finished DQVIII, but I just can't be arsed to dedicate more console time to it (I have over 100 hours on the clock).
Aeana said:
Doesn't affect the game for YOU perhaps. But to me, it's a pretty fucking huge feature. It's entirely subjective, of course, but Horii (I think?) thought it important enough to make specific mention of in one of those interviews. I think it was when he was asked about the benefits of working on the DS.
Himuro said:
For sure. But I ripped my copy to my PS2's HDD and played it from there, so that wiped out almost all of the load times introduced in the localized version. It basically ran as fast as the JP version did. But yeah, the battles definitely took a tad too long. But DQVII has nice and speedy battles, and I expect great things from the similarly-styled DS remakes of IV-VI.
Mejilan said:
No, it doesn't affect the game itself. Take a console game and put it on a handheld, change nothing, it's still exactly the same game, but now you may have more opportunities to play it. Portability is a (very nice) convenience, but that's all.
For example, the Dragon Quest 7 you just played through on your PSP is the same Dragon Quest 7 I play on my PS1. There's no difference.
First of all, I HIGHLY doubt that they'll bother to port the game to the DS unchanged (content-wise). That's just not their thing for the DQ series. So we'll probably get new items and a more fleshed-out equipment system, a couple of new bosses and monsters, a couple of new dungeons, and possibly even a new story scenario after the main game. THAT'S much more their style when remaking DQs.
That said, I still think you're dead wrong about portability not counting as a feature. I've attempted to play through DQVII 3 or 4 times since I bought it, and never got past the 40 or 50 hour mark. Pop it onto the PSP and bam, a near-140 hour clear file that's only an hour or two from finishing the second (and final) bonus dungeon. Hell, once I finish this last dungeon, I'll also have a complete monster book. It's by no means a 100% file, but it's reasonably close. (All human classes mastered, all tinymedal prizes redeemed, monster park fully expanded, etc.)
So yeah, portability had a DRASTIC effect on my overall play experience. It was, for all intents and purposes, a game-making addition, or feature, if you will. The lack of such a feature on the PSOne was effectively game-breaking to me. But, as I said before, this is quite subjective. If one doesn't spend 2+ hours commuting on a subway/train/bus, each day, then yeah, not a big deal.
That said, I still think you're dead wrong about portability not counting as a feature. I've attempted to play through DQVII 3 or 4 times since I bought it, and never got past the 40 or 50 hour mark. Pop it onto the PSP and bam, a near-140 hour clear file that's only an hour or two from finishing the second (and final) bonus dungeon. Hell, once I finish this last dungeon, I'll also have a complete monster book. It's by no means a 100% file, but it's reasonably close. (All human classes mastered, all tinymedal prizes redeemed, monster park fully expanded, etc.)
So yeah, portability had a DRASTIC effect on my overall play experience. It was, for all intents and purposes, a game-making addition, or feature, if you will. The lack of such a feature on the PSOne was effectively game-breaking to me. But, as I said before, this is quite subjective. If one doesn't spend 2+ hours commuting on a subway/train/bus, each day, then yeah, not a big deal.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
ethelred said:
yes!
I don't know, part of me is kinda worried that DQ9 won't feel like a DQ game because of the seeming focus on multiplayer, but to be honest, as long as it's still fun in it's own right, I don't think I'll really mind. I've learned better than to get caught up in game titles and franchise names, especially with rampant Mario spinoffism.
Android18a
Member
The way I'd like to see the multiplayer is almost as a Dragon-Quested Four Swords.
Your heroes from your own copies of the game all meet up via wifi, and you're all there together with all your equipment, EXP, levels etc.
By working together you could help a lower level friend tackle a harder dungeon to earn EXP quicker, or together a team of high levelled friends could take on a bonus dungeon that would be impossible to finish alone, but keep the whole game world accessible whilst this is happening.
So you could take your level 24 hero, play with a few friends online, then go back into your single player story mode later and thrash the next few bits of game with the extra levels you earned whilst playing with friends.
Your heroes from your own copies of the game all meet up via wifi, and you're all there together with all your equipment, EXP, levels etc.
By working together you could help a lower level friend tackle a harder dungeon to earn EXP quicker, or together a team of high levelled friends could take on a bonus dungeon that would be impossible to finish alone, but keep the whole game world accessible whilst this is happening.
So you could take your level 24 hero, play with a few friends online, then go back into your single player story mode later and thrash the next few bits of game with the extra levels you earned whilst playing with friends.
Chris Michael
Banned
Himuro said:
You really think so, from what little we've seen of V DS?
It looks like the same exact game. :lol
norinrad21
Banned
Ponn01 said:
if you were passionate about it as you claim, then you wouldn't be bitching. DQ has never been about the graphics
lastendconductor
Put your snobby liquids into my mouth!
I don't like where this is going. I would rather have this on the Wii with the DQ8 engine and execution*, and specially with NO multiplayer bullshit. As it stands, single player experience quality is going to take a huge blow for sure.
*at 10x the battle speed
*at 10x the battle speed
jeremy1456
Junior Member
DKnight said:
BS bolded for your pleasure.
I really don't understand all the complaining, especially given that there's no indication of a low quality single player experience.
jeremy1456 said:
Well, to be fair, there's been no indication of any single player experience. All they've done is mention that there will be one, but every bit of media and talk about the game has been on the multiplayer.
I actually like the idea of multiplayer DQ though, so that doesn't bother me too much, as long as it has a better story than VIII did.
lastendconductor
Put your snobby liquids into my mouth!
Are you serious? there isn't infinite development resources; if they focus more in one area, the other is bound to be weaker. The info we have as of now is confusing at best, but it seems like MP is a big focus, which leaves me fearing for a mere afterthought SP (like having a carbon copy of the MP, only barren of real players).jeremy1456 said:
I guess it's alright if you like MP rpgs (I don't, at least not as much as SP ones).
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
i'm not ready to throw myself from a bridge or anything, but i can definitely acknoweldge that i have some concerns.
Tyrone Slothrop
Banned
Red Scarlet said:
FF4-6 are two-player??
Red Scarlet
Member
ethelred said:
4 is pick up and play 2 player, while 6 has a 2 player option to set up who uses who, while they added 2 player in 4 and 5 like it was in 6 on emulators.
Error and I didn't get far in 9 due to lag problems. 9 has a 2-player option like 6 did.
I played through FF4 SNES with Scarlet recently, and had a lot of fun with that. I've also played through FF6 2-player twice, and that's also really fun. I'd love to try FF9 sometime. I'd kill for a patch for DQ5 that enabled such a feature. 
As Scarlet's said, you only need to look as far as the FF games to see how multiplayer has already been implemented in regular RPGs. I think DQ9 is just taking it a step further so that you can also control your character outside of battle.
As Scarlet's said, you only need to look as far as the FF games to see how multiplayer has already been implemented in regular RPGs. I think DQ9 is just taking it a step further so that you can also control your character outside of battle.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Offtopic:
RPG-gamers at GAF--I'd like to start a "NeoGAF Create-an-RPG Thread" where we take ideas for various aspects of an RPG (characters/design, battle system, magic system, upgrade/leveling system, setting, weapons/armor, and story) and then vote on them and create our very own RPG. God knows what we'd get but it sure would be fun. If anybody is interested in starting/maintaining/designing such a thread, PM me about it please. I'm looking specifically at Red Scarlett, Error, Dragona, Ethel. If anybody else has a good way of creating the thread and tallying ideas/votes, hit me up.
/sorry about OT
RPG-gamers at GAF--I'd like to start a "NeoGAF Create-an-RPG Thread" where we take ideas for various aspects of an RPG (characters/design, battle system, magic system, upgrade/leveling system, setting, weapons/armor, and story) and then vote on them and create our very own RPG. God knows what we'd get but it sure would be fun. If anybody is interested in starting/maintaining/designing such a thread, PM me about it please. I'm looking specifically at Red Scarlett, Error, Dragona, Ethel. If anybody else has a good way of creating the thread and tallying ideas/votes, hit me up.
/sorry about OT
I dunno, Horii made 8 (9 I guess if you count CT) great rpgs why would he suddenly churn out a not so good entry in this legendary series?
in Horii I trust. he has also said countless of times that DQ9 SP will be up on par with the rest of the series. there is not need to push the panic button yet.
in Horii I trust. he has also said countless of times that DQ9 SP will be up on par with the rest of the series. there is not need to push the panic button yet.