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[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

There had to be downside didn't they?

Im not particularly bothered by this but there is no doubt this is fucking stupid design decision by Sony. No, putting black tape on your £50 controller is not a "solution".

This needs to be fixed.

 

[Lion Heart]

We have our first "fix this shit Sony" feature of the gen. Is going to be spammed on the firmware threads like crazy. The light bar is the new clock.

 

[plagiarize]

You do realize that's the camera picking up the light right? Not the reflection.

Of course they don't.

 

[Dunlop]

Oh, shit. I was gonna post about how I'm not fussed. Now I'm not sure.

I have a plasma and play in the dark in my basement (pitch black), that really blows

 

[CaptainTiptop]

And that aint exactly a dark room

That's errr, not a reflection.

 

[iMax]

Why don't they just use unique IR signatures on their controllers like the Xbox One does?

 

[Hanmik]

She's okay with you playing with the television on?

(you clearly didn´t see my avatar)...

 

[StunandStab]

They will probably implement the ability to turn off the light in a firmware update or something.

 

[Dunlop]

Why don't they just use unique IR signatures on their controllers like the Xbox One does?

I think it was meant to be with the camera that was initially going to be a packing (I believe anyways). They could have just done what was on the DS3. The novelty of that light is going to wear off pretty fast for me

 

[Andronicus]

You do realize that's the camera picking up the light right? Not the reflection.

I was just about to say its not a damn flashlight the controller glows lmao

 

[DBT85]

But it's intuitive.

You do realize that's the camera picking up the light right? Not the reflection.

It isn't, ton screen is supposed to be the inside of the DS4, where the little bots are. On the screen when you can see the two guys yeah, you see the light as the camera sees it, but that image is just a reflection.

 

[Burger]

I found an easy fix. No tape required. Saves battery life.

 

[pargonta]

should definitely be an option.

i kinda scared now, if i have to see it reflected all the time i'll have to use some black tape or something.

 

[The Elite]

That's errr, not a reflection.

Engadget video.

 

[RoboPlato]

I really hope they change their minds on this before launch. I have to sit close to my set since I have a small room and the main reason I didn't use Move much was because of the obnoxious reflections.

 

[Volotaire]

Never knew it was an issue outside battery concern.

 

[Andronicus]

Engadget video.

isnt the reflection in the same spot as the controller when the screen switches to the camera? *BlankStare*

 

[Bamihap]

awesome news for everyone with glossy tv

OMG. You are right. I'm already annoyed by the little red light on my Dual Shock 3... This is going to be really bad

 

[KissVibes]

Engadget video.

And look, it isn't a reflection!

Thank you for this video.

 

[iMax]

I think it was meant to be with the camera that was initially going to be a packing (I believe anyways). They could have just done what was on the DS3. The novelty of that light is going to wear off pretty fast for me

Microsoft was always shipping Kinect with Xbox One, and they managed to use a non-obtrusive controller tracking system. Why can't Sony?

 

[Alcoholikaust]

You genuinely think this is a big issue?

if the light cannot be turned off this is a huge issue for us that game in dim rooms-

last thing I want to see on my 60 in. set is a damn reflection, why I build a gaming room like bunker (no windows)

 

[benny_a]

 

[GameSeeker]

This is a classic "GAF makes a mountain out of a molehill" issue.

1) LED lights are very power efficient and won't significantly affect battery life
2) This may turn out to be an issue that can be patched in firmware rev. 1.xx
3) Duct Tape!

 

[DJwest]

You genuinely think this is a big issue?

To me? Nope. But you will be surprised the shit people complain about.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Engadget video.

Thanks for the link, there is some glow there on what looks like a Plasma. But there is also the cam picking up the light bar as well.

You can see it around the 5:30 mark and more. Not sure how severe that is though.

 

[Kyon]

arent LEDs really power efficient?

why are ppl complaining about battery life? I thought this was like the little lights on DS3?

 

[Frodo]

Engadget video.

Yes, It actually IS a reflection. You can see it in some other points of the video. After the demonstration of the little robots inside the controller, when the guy moves the DS4 close to his ear you can see the reflection just above the actual LED bar being shown on the TV.

It is probably his fault for having such a reflective TV.

Edit: Also, clearly visible on the 3:35 mark.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

Why don't they just use unique IR signatures on their controllers like the Xbox One does?

Kinect includes an IR camera, PS4 Eye does not.

 

[Niks]

And that aint exactly a dark room

I own a plasma, and Im kinda worried...
Dont understand why it must be turned on all the time. I mean, the lightbar was made to work with the PS camera no? And afaik the camera is optional???

 

[Pezking]

That's why I sold my otherwise beloved Panasonic Plasma and bought the Sony LCD with the least glare years ago.

Glossy displays are the worst. It's a shame that they're pretty much the standard today.

 

[iMax]

And look, it isn't a reflection!

Thank you for this video.

Huh? Looks like a reflection to me :/

 

[HigXx]

Is there really people complaining about this? Seems OTT

 

[NekoFever]

People are really digging deep to say something negative about the PS4.

And yet some feel the need to come in and explain that it's not an issue to people for whom it is.

 

[metalmachine]

Does anyone actually really care about this? Is this really a big deal? My first reaction to this news was, "So fucking what?"

 

[turnbuckle]

And that aint exactly a dark room

This does not look like a reflection. The way the controller is angled doesn't match with the light on the screen and it's surprising that wide light on the controller is giving such a bright, narrow light back.

FUD?

 

[iMax]

Kinect includes an IR camera, PS4 Eye does not.

Ah, didn't know that. Damn...

 

[sixteen-bit]

That's pretty shitty for dungeon setups

 

[iMax]

That's why I sold my otherwise beloved Panasonic Plasma and bought the Sony LCD with the least glare years ago.

Glossy displays are the worst. It's a shame that they're pretty much the standard today.

Looks like the Sony W9 LCD panel in that Engadget video.

 

[DBT85]

And look, it isn't a reflection!

Thank you for this video.

It IS a reflection. at 6:03 you can see the controller on the screen with its light and above it is the reflection of the guy holding the controller.

At 5:45 you can still see the light not close to the controller and even when the game is rendering a shape on the screen. over the top of the controller and the guy.

It's a reflection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpCdtjTrAo

 

[metalmachine]

People just find anything to complain about. That's the way it always has been. Blame it on human nature?

 

[The Elite]

#teamreflection

#turnoffthelightsPS4

I doubt they fix this for launch but somewhere down the line there will be an option to turn off when they stop feeling the need to sell it as a cool feature.

 

[Hanmik]

People just find anything to complain about. That's the way it always has been. Blame it on human nature?

people just don´t get that some people have an issue with stuff like this. Don´t blame it on human nature, blame yourself for not understanding other people might have a problem with this..

 

[kmax]

Okay..

Still buying it.

 

[Kaako]

I don't like it one bit. I will cover that shit up one way or another.

 

[G_Berry]

Wow what a shame. The light is pretty big too.

Just goes to show that the camera was going to be bundled all along then removed last minute.

Surely they can patch this "feature" out some how?

 

[freefornow]

I lol'd harder than i should have

 

[JWong]

Never had any problem with the light from any move game.

Won't have a problem here.

 

[MikeJAMoran]

And that aint exactly a dark room

There's a video feed from the camera on the TV.

 

[DBT85]

Wow what a shame. The light is pretty big too.

Just goes to show that the camera was going to be bundled all along then removed last minute.

Surely they can patch this "feature" out some how?

It's still the player identifier. No other way of knowing which controller you are holding if there are multiple turned on.

I guess I can't say for certain, but nothing in this video makes me think it's a reflection.

Watching the video makes me certain that it is a reflection. I don't care. With all the reflections I have it's nothing, but it IS a reflection.

 

[turnbuckle]

Yes, It actually IS a reflection. You can see it in some other points of the video. After the demonstration of the little robots inside the controller, when the guy moves the DS4 close to his ear you can see the reflection just above the actual LED bar being shown on the TV.

It is probably his fault for having such a reflective TV.

Edit: Also, clearly visible on the 3:35 mark.

That looks like it's just acting as a pointer. You'll notice it getting dimmer/brighter on the same surface during different parts of the video and it seems to be based on the context of the demonstration rather than the brightness of the controller's light.

I guess I can't say for certain, but nothing in this video makes me think it's a reflection.

Watching the video makes me certain that it is a reflection. I don't care. With all the reflections I have it's nothing, but it IS a reflection.

You might be right, and if you are I hope they fix this. The video doesn't make it obvious to me at all though. No more than a hand icon being a reflection of a Wiimote. The screen being an output from the camera would intentionally bring out the controller's light as a pointer/icon and I believe that's what we're seeing here. Would like to see a video like this where the Playstation camera isn't being utilized.