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Ah it would seem you're right. Their 09/09/09 entry was just what I was remembering.phisheep said:You'l probably have read that on ChaosEdge - they've done all the heavy research on this case.
Ah it would seem you're right. Their 09/09/09 entry was just what I was remembering.phisheep said:You'l probably have read that on ChaosEdge - they've done all the heavy research on this case.
Kind of scary that it had to come to this before IGDA took any action, but eh, better late than never.Darkflight said:Well, well well:
IGDA Revokes Langdell's Membership In Wake of Edge Trademark Ruling
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...mbership_In_Wake_of_Edge_Trademark_Ruling.php
Darkflight said:Well, well well:
IGDA Revokes Langdell's Membership In Wake of Edge Trademark Ruling
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...mbership_In_Wake_of_Edge_Trademark_Ruling.php
No kidding, they were notified again and again of his actions and waited until now to actually do something.Haunted said:Kind of scary that it had to come to this before IGDA took any action, but eh, better late than never.
YES!Darkflight said:Well, well well:
IGDA Revokes Langdell's Membership In Wake of Edge Trademark Ruling
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...mbership_In_Wake_of_Edge_Trademark_Ruling.php
Thanks again for your summeries phisheep. However, you said the same thing a few times about proving fraud and abandoning trademarks, but I never really understood what it meant. What could happen if he sticks to it and what couldn't happen if he abandoned? As of now, being able to avoid charges for fraud by just canceling something seems really fishy to me. Fraud is criminal, right? Are the trademarks kind of like proof? But it's not like the records are completely gone, right?phisheep said:That's interesting. Because there hasn't been a finding of fraud in the Federal Court and since the cancellation case is wiped out (or at least will be) by the court ruling, this was the last chance that EA had to make the fraud charges stick. Well, in the US at any rate. Sounds like Langdell is (at last) listening to some decent legal advice.
Soneet said:Thanks again for your summeries phisheep. However, you said the same thing a few times about proving fraud and abandoning trademarks, but I never really understood what it meant. What could happen if he sticks to it and what couldn't happen if he abandoned? As of now, being able to avoid charges for fraud by just canceling something seems really fishy to me. Fraud is criminal, right? Are the trademarks kind of like proof? But it's not like the records are completely gone, right?
It sounds worse than what it is, actually. It just means that the case is settled permanently, and that the same issue cannot be contested againphisheep said:Incidentally, it was abandoned WITH PREJUDICE. Which sounds pretty damn bad to me, though I hesitate to suggest what the true meaning may be that side of the Atlantic.
kenta said:It sounds worse than what it is, actually. It just means that the case is settled permanently, and that the same issue cannot be contested again
animlboogy said:Jesus christ. He did that last week? The man is fucked in the head. Seriously, he must be mentally ill. And he's been justified in behaving like a mentally ill person every time he cashes a check from one of his "licensees".
Sciz said:Phisheep, having followed your coverage of this mess from the beginning, I'd just like to compliment you on successfully raising investigative journalism to the level of art form.
animlboogy said:Jesus christ. He did that last week? The man is fucked in the head. Seriously, he must be mentally ill.
phisheep said:15th Oct, Langdell filed a certificate confirming that he has sent copies of the adverse judgment to all the relevant people. Not as interesting as Id hoped, as it does not contain a list of who he sent it to.
Thats the last (and only) condition fulfilled. So thats it. Case done.
He's more like that guy with no hair at the start of PW gamesIrishNinja said:yeah, this list would've been interesting - Namco, the usual ones, probably some surprising ones as well though.
thread needs more .gifs of defeated Manfred von Karma.
phisheep said:Theres been some movement in the UK as well, Ill get to it shortly.
IrishNinja said:yeah, this list would've been interesting - Namco, the usual ones, probably some surprising ones as well though.
thread needs more .gifs of defeated Manfred von Karma.
phisheep said:Something very strange is happening here in the UK.
On 16th October Langdell withdrew his applications for the marks MIRROR'S SPORE and SOULSPORE.
But on the same date, the application (I don't know who made it) to revoke six of Langdell's other trademarks, that had been made in March 2009, was withdrawn.
It's rather difficult to speculate what might have happened here. I can't believe that anyone really wants Langdell to keep these trademarks - so something else must be going on somewhere. Can't wait to find out what!
OP updated to reflect this.
Rezbit said:Possible to know what those other trademarks are?
phisheep said:I listed them all in post 32 above - but I've now updated the OP so they are there as well, so I can cross them off as (I hope) they vanish.
Zenith said:Let us not forget that The Escapist actually tried to defend this scumbag through misinformation
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=17179480
No_Style said:Just a head's up: The Eurogamer link is messed up. Great OP though. I'm catching up on this whole mess.
:lol :lolphisheep said:EDIT: Much to my astonishment, Langdell has a page on IMDB. Enjoy!
This story begins in Covent Garden, London at the end of the 1970s. It was here that a young entrepreneur, Timothy Langdell, founded the game publishing company Softek
Your Spectrum said:A creative group comprising programmers, graphic artists and musicians has broken away from its parent company, Softek International, to form an independent division. Called The Edge, it's already boasting four new titles, two of which - Starbike and Psytraxx - are designed for the Spectrum.
Crash magazine 1984 said:Softeks Managing Director, Tim Langdell, has issued a mysterious press release on behalf of The Edge described as the creative group which has broken away from Softek International. Langdell says, Over the past few months I had been bringing together some of the best talent worldwide to form a unique group of programmers, graphic artists and musicians. Clearly Softeks game creation and marketing division had grown immensely in the first half of 1984. The creative group requested to be able to form an independent division of Softek.
Quite how this creative group squeezed into Softek Internationals tiny two-room offices in London is a matter open to question the latest in space compaction techniques no doubt. Anyway, they seem to have been busy getting Personal Computer Games game of the month award for their Commodore game Quo Vadis, and more amazingly entering the Computer & Video Games Hall of Fame pages before releasing the Spectrum game Starbike. These two games are described by The Edge as megagames the first ever, and with a follow up title of Psytraxx, Softek and The Edge are beginning to sound a little like a Liverpool giant. Lets hope Softek doesnt go right over The Edge.
OgTheClever said::lol :lol
He's down 32% in popularity this week.
What would happen if someone discovered he never actually sent the letters?phisheep said:15th Oct, Langdell filed a certificate confirming that he has sent copies of the adverse judgment to all the relevant people. Not as interesting as Id hoped, as it does not contain a list of who he sent it to.
Cosmo Clock 21 said:What would happen if someone discovered he never actually sent the letters?
Today was a federal holiday and I doubt anyone's doing anything significant tomorrow. But I could be wrong.phisheep said:Yeah. It's gone a bit strange though - some blustering about happening at the USPTO end, so the actual trademarks haven't been cancelled yet.
I should find time to do an interim update tomorrow (by which time they might even have got round to doing something).
Pursuant to Section 37 of the Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. § 1119, the Commissioner of Patents and Trademarks and the Assistant Commissioner for Trademarks are hereby ordered to cancel U.S. Trademark Registration Nos. 2,219,837; 2,251,584; 3,105,816; 3,559,342; and 3,381,826.
jvm said:Also, it's worth mentioning that Edge got added to the PlayStation Store as a PSP game.