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[Zeouterlimits]

So, if the game is a B even with european standards....

Excuse me?

 

[Solid warrior]

They are video game journalists. So they probably only watched the cut scenes. :lol

smh

 

[Graphics Horse]

3 - Severely floored.

There was me hoping GAF's weird obsession with ground textures had died out.

 

[TheKaeptain]

smh

Lighten up. It was a joke. I've made it clear how I feel about Viddy game journos across all fronts.

 

[Akainu]

Grasshopper's Wisdom - Suda51 interview

Bad Game Design 101 lolz

 

[CadetMahoney]

I like all the butthurt comments on that edge review about halo's score being too high. :lol

 

[V_Arnold]

Excuse me?

Read back a little, it was a joke

 

[SmokyDave]

There was me hoping GAF's weird obsession with ground textures had died out.

:lol

You beat me to it!

 

[Pooya]

No Vanquish review?

Has the embargo not ended?

too soon for that, Vanquish is coming out on 19th in NA, 21st and 22nd in JP and EU.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

Whao. I guess EDGE did not approach Enslaved as something that aims to take the throne away from hack and slash games. They should have known better. They should have read GAF

Because people were treating it like that?

All this really proves is that the demo was shitty and failed to actually portray the game in a way that it should have.

too soon for that, Vanquish is coming out on 19th in NA, 21st and 22nd in JP and EU.

Okay then.

 

[NeoUltima]

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow (360 version) - 8

O yes, o fuck yes.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Hydrophobia score is worrying. I was optimistic about it.

 

[Phaethon0017]

IIRC, Edge gave Heavenly Sword a 6. I'm not saying the demo is indicative of the full game, but until I can read the full review I think that 8 is mighty high indeed.

 

[Corto]

Now I have two more games to buy... Damn it! The upgrade system in Enslaved must be cool then, can't wait to read all the review text.

And yay for Civ V!

 

[Lonely1]

Ouch for Hydrophobia.

 

[Equus Bellator Apex]

Hydrophobia, ouch.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

Ouch, Hydrophobia...

 

[Oneself]

I highly doubt Enslaved is worth 8 out of 10. The demo was terrible, maybe it wasn't representative of the final game's quality...

 

[badcrumble]

Hydro ~ouch~ phobia

 

[Novella]

Hydrophobiaphobia.

 

[Coin Return]

Hydrophbia!

Spoiler

Ouch.

 

[AgentOtaku]

IIRC, Edge gave Heavenly Sword a 6. I'm not saying the demo is indicative of the full game, but until I can read the full review I think that 8 is mighty high indeed.

I would give Heavenly Sword a 6

 

[TheKaeptain]

Forgot to add: :lol :lol :lol Dead Rising.

 

[ElFly]

it's not like they said that the rest of it is platforming

So what's the other 70% of the game then?

Waiting a few seconds for the character on the screen to do something when you press a button?

Because the game does that exceedingly well.

 

[The Praiseworthy]

If Enslave scores 8s in most of the reviews then i will be VERY HAPPY!

 

[Ranger X]

Well, I felt like skipping Hydrophobia but now it's pretty much confirmed!

 

[nli10]

Hydrophobia Review Full Text - worth adding to OP?

Pretty sure I'll still buy it though, £10 for something I've not seen in a game before is expensive, but justifiable.

Also they invoke Second Sight which was probably the 2nd best action game of that generation.

 

[Hyphen]

Is this your interpretation of their review policy?

I feel as though Edge is smarter than saying 10 is reserved for "revolutionary" games because so many games that deserve that score are not actually revolutionary; they're just great.

It's the review policy of Edge. '10' isn't "reserved for revolutionary games". 'Revolutionary' is just one sentiment (like the other numbers) which corresponds to a 10/10 game in terms of a review. Problems arise when looking at a score/sentiment too literally without fully reading the review. Because then some gamers will wonder why the first 4d game isn't given a 10, when there obviously needs to be more to a game that just that. So as Visualante suggested, there's a 'scoring system' explained before each review (1 = one, 2 = two), but what I quoted was their 'review policy'.

The revolutionary has been retired given that it is unfair to expect games to reach the high bars set by Mario 64, Zelda, Half Life 2 when the 3D revolution is actually over.

Nothing to do with high bars of the games you suggested, it's to do with gamers reading too much into the 'score' rather than reading enough of the review. Because then instead of celebrating a 10/10 game, some gamers get paranoid and wonder how a specific game could garner such a score when it isn't wholly 'revolutionary'. But anyway, I don't want to get into that, because all magazines will review games differently. And it's up to the reader to understand that Edge (and like all other mags) have their own opinion on what makes a good game.

For example "...Enslaved's greatest achievement is standing out in the crowded field of me-too, colour sapped videogame apocalypses, serving as a vibrant oasis in the otherwise murky brown wastes." - Edge are applauding NT for bringing colour to an apocalyptic environment. Saying it's the game's greatest achievement. That's fine, as long as you realise that. But I guarantee there'll be others who'd prefer a grey sky over a blue one, and take that into consideration when writing (or reading) a review.

(btw, none of the above is a 'dig' at Visualante)

Edge - "...there is no 'correct' score for a game, only scores that cause less of an argument when reprinted on the Net and culled into a statistical database. It is impossible to please everyone; only to make some people happier than others as they apply mathematical rules to a verbal argument."

 

[Despera]

Well, I felt like skipping Hydrophobia but now it's pretty much confirmed!

Why? Because of the 3?

Clock Tower 2 scored a whooping 3.9 from Gamespot, and I still enjoyed that game.

 

[Majora]

Having read the reviews, Enslaved's score seems a little generous. I expect a bit more from an Edge 8 than what is contained in the review. Castlevania reads exactly as I'd expect however. I'll post some different bits to the final paragraphs that were typed up earlier

Castlevania

For its first six hours Lords Of Shadow is God Of War 3 with Greek mythology swapped out for gothic folk tales....it's arguably to the game's credit that the iconic, candle-lit castles are reserved for the final, climatic third.

Combat is a joy to work with...By not taking any major gameplay chances, Lords Of Shadows manages to get most of the fundamentals right. The camera is an occasional inconvenience however.

The cutscenes are a little overwrought...while the production is never less than triple-A, it's never truly rousing or paid off with anything more than the usual quota of killing.

Clocking in at the 15-20 hour mark, Lords Of Shadows threatens to test your stamina. The variety of challenges and the curvature of the game's narrative spine help ease the pain, but it's nevertheless a relief to reach the home stretch.

Enslaved

Enslaved's combat dangles constantly on the knife edge between thrilling and laborious....Frequently, Enslaved gives players a chance to plan these encounters, or bypass them altogether. On these occasions, players can plan an assault starting with the malfunctioning weak links or attempt to creep past the group in its entirety...In truth these sections are more successful than the out-and-out attempts at more typical puzzles, which are all variations on the switch-pulling, bridge-turning model.

Enslaved's platforming is, for the most part, fairly easy...and requires the presence of angry mech gunfire to avoid before truly coming alive. It's these sections, however, which best show off Ninja Theory's eye for a set-piece.

Like the Uncharted series, Enslaved is also unafraid to make the case for a rollercoaster of a story, well-told. It's cutscenes are frequent but never overlong, and feature uniformly high-calibre performances from its cast.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

The scores here seem almost conserative, along the lines of the standard numbers to hand out to games, based on what gamespot/ign/gamespy/and so on, would give these games usually, but still, there is whining?


The Edge-is-being-over-critical is now replaced with them being biased? fuck me like a john john, but I recall plenty of times when they put down the axe on UK based games, from rare to Real time worlds, to crystal dynamics and so on...

Some people here are off their rockers!

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

I know Edge is harsh so maybe Hydrophobia can still be good. But maybe the game really isn't that great considering 1up just gave it a C+.

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3181596

Maybe it's not the next Shadow Complex.

 

[subversus]

So what's the other 70% of the game then?

Waiting a few seconds for the character on the screen to do something when you press a button?

Because the game does that exceedingly well.

puzzles, boss fights and even some stealth sections.

 

[SolidusDave]

Holy crap, an 8 for Enslaved :lol

There really is no defence for this one. Having played the demo I can safely say that this is utter bogus, it is an absolute pile of shit of the highest order with the worst controls of any action game in existence. Giving it an 8 is an insult to the intelligence of their readers.

But then again it is a British made game so Edge are happy to lie to their readers to support their friends at Ninja Theory.

"No."

 

[Supervlieg]

3? So the battle for real realtime water is still undecided.

Spoiler

Ouch!

 

[Dabookerman]

An Audience with - Bobby Kotick

Oh shit son, all I care about.

I left my issue at work

I really wanted to read that tonight!

 

[Lé Blade Runner]

Happy to see Castlevania getting a positive review. I can't wait for that game!

 

[Ace Harding]

Do U.S. subscribers have issue 219 (Rockband 3 cover) yet? I moved recently but updated my address in mid-August and I will flip a shit if I missed an issue. Newsstands here still have 218 out though.

When do US subs usually get their copies (how long after UK)?

 

[shuyin_]

3? So the battle for real realtime water is still undecided.

Spoiler

Ouch!

I think the battle for real realtime water is decided. Water looks and apparently acts realistic in Hydrophobia. Unfortunately, it seems from the review they forgot to make a game around their water tech.
At least that's what it seems from this particular review; maybe the game is good...wait for other reviews.

 

[Chaplain]

Do U.S. subscribers have issue 219 (Rockband 3 cover) yet? I moved recently but updated my address in mid-August and I will flip a shit if I missed an issue. Newsstands here still have 218 out though.

I got issue 219 last week on Thursday (in the mail). Edge usually arrives between the 14th to the 21st of every month.

 

[2San]

Edge giving scores similar to other reviewers? Don't know if this is good or bad.

Civ V looks awesome too bad I don't like strategy games. :|

 

[.la1n]

From anyone who has actually played more than just the demo of enslaved I have heard nothing but good things, so I don't see why an 8 is unreasonable. Anyone judging the game based off of the short demo :lol

I am also someone who doesn't want them to be involved with the devil may cry franchise but that doesn't mean that enslaved is a horrible game by any means.

 

[Novella]

I was hoping Hydrophobia would be good.

 

[Mar]

Soooo out of the loop. This is the first time I've ever heard of Enslaved. Going to check it out.

Can't wait for DR2 and Castlevania.

Same on all fronts here. No idea what Enslaved nor Hydrophobia is.

Forgot to add: :lol :lol :lol Dead Rising.

Wow, 3 laughing emoticons? I'm genuinely interested, what do you find funny about this?

 

[TheKaeptain]

Same on all fronts here. No idea what Enslaved nor Hydrophobia is.



Wow, 3 laughing emoticons? I'm genuinely interested, what do you find funny about this?

Just find it funny. Can't wait to see how it sells.

 

[Barkley's Justice]

i'm officially 4 issues behind in my reading now. because the u.s. reseller missed 2 months of issues, and then bulk mailed them together 2 months later. i haven't been able to keep up since.

 

[SapientWolf]

Doesn't bode well for New Vegas, BulletStorm, Gears 3, RAGE, etc...

Bulletstorm is actually pretty picturesque. Dungeon Defenders is guaranteed to get a 10 on the color scale, and it's a UE3.0 game.

 

[Rahxephon91]

Good to see that Castlevannia is living up to the hype.

Surprised at the Enslaved score, but after the demo I don't really care.

 

[VinZuku]

I highly doubt Enslaved is worth 8 out of 10. The demo was terrible, maybe it wasn't representative of the final game's quality...

It's a good thing they don't review demos then.

 

[MikeE21286]

Cover is Bloodstone. Subscribers get Goldeneye Wii.

Scores:-

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow (360 version) - 8
Enslaved: Odyssey to the West (360 version) - 8
Hydrophobia - 3
Quantum Theory (360 version) - 3

Obviously notable/funny review scores. The Enslaved demo was much better than I thought it would be...however, I can't help but be surprised that it recieved an 8. Also I personally feel like I wanted the new Castlevania to be much better than Enslaved. 8 is still real good though.