NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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True but I still like his channel
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Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes | Review Thread
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True but I still like his channel
DoktorCoktor
Member
After seeing these, the game is definitely a pass for me.
Man, these modern culturalizers just can't help themselves when it comes to the butchering and infantilization of Japanese video games.
Man, these modern culturalizers just can't help themselves when it comes to the butchering and infantilization of Japanese video games.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
God dammit, another translation ruined by some dumbass localizer who thinks they’re so funny and clever.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
I'm pretty sure I can choose the Japanese language with English Subtitles
I think that the Engilish Subtitles from the Japanese Dub is much more accurate
Might be wrong though
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Does it show different English text based on whether you chose JP or English audio? I’ve never seen a game do that before.
DoktorCoktor
Member
I can stomach minor liberal changes here and there, especially if they're out of necessity, but a lot of these are blatant rewrites that completely alter the original context of dialogue and character personalities.
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Unfortunately, true.
Same happened with Unicorn Overlord. Still loved the game, but it's a crappy situation.
Fbh
Member
A bit lower than I expected, though reading through the review none of the negatives sound too bad for me. Though it definitely seems worth it to wait for a patch or two.
I'd be surprised if many (or any) games change their entire translation based on which voices you choose. Maybe for a few animated scenes or something like that, but certainly not for all the regular text based dialogue.
I distinctly remember many JRPG's having this slightly annoying thing where a character has their name changed in the dub, and if you play with Japanese voices they will say one name but the subtitles (which are based on the dub) will say another.
I'd be surprised if many (or any) games change their entire translation based on which voices you choose. Maybe for a few animated scenes or something like that, but certainly not for all the regular text based dialogue.
I distinctly remember many JRPG's having this slightly annoying thing where a character has their name changed in the dub, and if you play with Japanese voices they will say one name but the subtitles (which are based on the dub) will say another.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
Fbh
Member
Yeah pretty much, but it's usually the subtitle is different from the japanese being spoken (because the subtitle is the same as the dub, and not a separate translation).
Like Xenoblade 2 is full of it because they changed the name of a lot of characters. So for example if you play with Japanese voices everyone will say "Homura" but the subtitles say "Pyra"
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Not if you pronounce it properly EYE u den ...that's a silly thing to focus on no disrespect
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
I mean those are all great games tho, right? Well, imo DD2 has way too many issues to be rated that highly but all the others yes. Also, Persona 3 Reload
This is def the year of the jrpg
Shouta
Member
It was a little more common in anime since you could would do a subtitle track and a closed caption track but it's pretty uncommon in games because of the sheer size. I can't even think of an example actually.
I took a look at the thread posted above and the translation in the game is mostly fine. I would say there's a few things that shouldn't have been done that way but most of it is definitely not out of line.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Yeah, I’ve been part of the JRPG community for 30 years now (jeez I’m old) and this “western reviewers give bad scores to JRPGs” meme has always been around and it’s always been wrong. If anything western reviewers have been overly generous to JRPGs.
NeoLed
Member
I check two first examples and I don't find any problems? Looks like a grifter that trying to rile up people over nothing.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Just learned that on console there's no option to turn off depth of field effect that everyone hates in this game ..
What in the actual fuck is wrong with devs today to not think to include that option?
Keep seeing this kind of issue pop up I'm games lately whether it's this or no CA/film grain options on console while it's there on PC ..
Also, don't know if this is confirmed, but some people saying it's 1080p on ps5 right now while sx is 4k ...if so I thi no that'll get patched but still
What in the actual fuck is wrong with devs today to not think to include that option?
Keep seeing this kind of issue pop up I'm games lately whether it's this or no CA/film grain options on console while it's there on PC ..
Also, don't know if this is confirmed, but some people saying it's 1080p on ps5 right now while sx is 4k ...if so I thi no that'll get patched but still
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
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Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
Will black men ever escape this haircut? lmao.
Pallas
Member
Will black men ever escape this haircut? lmao.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Whelp! Had the PS5 version pre-ordered from a week or so back. Was supposed to arrive today. Now there is no status ('We'll send you an email when we have a shipping update") and the store page says out of stock. BS. So, I just cancelled the order, paid $10 for Gamepass and downloaded the 4K version this morning. Probably for the best.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
This is like the “generic white space marine” of this generation.
Will black men ever escape this haircut? lmao.
German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
Re-translation patch, when?
Pallas
Member
They were obviously going for The Rock look, even the name is similar to his real name.
Little Chicken
Member
Why even change "rich lady" to "that yelly lady"... which sounds more like a botched translation.
"Rub-a-dub-dub, don't be a flub".
bye.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Are these lines just text? Or voice acted?
If it’s just text then it’s fucking awful.
If it’s some hyper cheerful squeaky-voiced VA saying “rub-a-dub-dub, don’t be a flub” then I feel almost nauseous just thinking about it. Appalling.
Deerock71
Member
Playing pre-patch, I'd say it's about the same, honestly.
IFireflyl
Gold Member
Q. Is the localization perfect?
A. No.
Q. Are people overreacting to it?
A. Absolutely.
Lian might be more annoying than she should be, but every localization example provided so far is so inconsequential that I don't know why people care. If you hadn't heard or seen the Japanese version you wouldn't have anything to complain about, and nothing that I have seen has been a major change that modifies the story or the characters in any meaningful way.
Example 1:
Japanese: Oh? You've got a lens too, Nowa?
English: You've got a lens, Nowa?
These are functionally identical phrases, and including this in a mistranslation post just shows how pedantic people are being.
Example 2:
Japanese: There, you could see it for a moment, right?
English: There! Did you see the glint?
Again, the same meaning is conveyed. The English version is just being a bit more specific regarding what is being seen (the glint).
I agree that adding stuff (e.g. rub-a-dub-dub, suck-my-chub) is pointless, and I would say that makes Lian more annoying (and therefore, unlikeable), but I don't see how it's worth complaining about when it isn't changing anything of importance. Especially since Lian is still kind of annoying in the Japanese version.
A. No.
Q. Are people overreacting to it?
A. Absolutely.
Lian might be more annoying than she should be, but every localization example provided so far is so inconsequential that I don't know why people care. If you hadn't heard or seen the Japanese version you wouldn't have anything to complain about, and nothing that I have seen has been a major change that modifies the story or the characters in any meaningful way.
Example 1:
Japanese: Oh? You've got a lens too, Nowa?
English: You've got a lens, Nowa?
These are functionally identical phrases, and including this in a mistranslation post just shows how pedantic people are being.
Example 2:
Japanese: There, you could see it for a moment, right?
English: There! Did you see the glint?
Again, the same meaning is conveyed. The English version is just being a bit more specific regarding what is being seen (the glint).
I agree that adding stuff (e.g. rub-a-dub-dub, suck-my-chub) is pointless, and I would say that makes Lian more annoying (and therefore, unlikeable), but I don't see how it's worth complaining about when it isn't changing anything of importance. Especially since Lian is still kind of annoying in the Japanese version.
mayham2199
Member
I pretty much assumed this was the case and didn't even look at the examples. People the same thing about the Trails series and it's always been good to me.
Draugoth
Gold Member
They just had to throw Chud in there, didn't they?
Some people submited that dialogue for approval and thought it was okay.
Unbeliveable, and they call themselves professionals.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Surprise! The activists have infiltrated this aspect of game development as well.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
NeoLed
Member
Interview from 2012? Wow, people really like to dig deep
kurisu_1974
is on perm warning for being a low level troll
The fact that this was crowdsourced worried me from the start, and to be honest what I have seen doesn't look super great. This is coming from an old-ass Suikoden 1/2 fan.
