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[OniBarubary]

Can we just flood their Twitters and Email with messages to make the female elf the main character?

Like, an onslaught.

 

[DarkConfidant]

I would much rather publishers not reveal a game before anyone has even been hired to make it. This is ridiculous. Who knows if/when we will get this, or what it will even be like?

I am excited about the prospects of a new Atlus studio, though.

 

[Shengar]

Just keep that art and design direction please.

When was the last time we ever seen a redhead elf wear scale armor from head to toe?

 

[Shengar]

But what about EO?!

EO have a lot of steampunk and magitech element into it, so it's not exactly the traditional fantasy RPG they talking about.


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Considering what they've done with Catherine and Persona 5, I'm really excited.

 

[Nirolak]

Can we just flood their Twitters and Email with messages to make the female elf the main character?

Like, an onslaught.

I think it would be a hard pitch.

This is what happened with Shin Megami Tensai 4: Apocalypse's main character: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1187843

During the early planning phases, the main character was planned to be older than Flynn from Shin Megami Tensei IV. With Megaten games being designed around current sensibilities, it makes more sense for the main character of a modern Megaten game to be a youth with an incomplete sense of self, rather than an experience adult.

Flynn was 18 in the first game, to note.

And then as far as women go: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/1...-game-with-a-female-lead/#tubXE8bKHZ8Gmu4W.99

Persona 3 Portable’s defining feature was the option to be a female protagonist and the always optimistic Maya Amano from Persona 2: Eternal Punishment was one of the “coolest” heroines in the series.

Atlus has made memorable characters in the Shin Megami Tensei universe, but the numbered Shin Megami Tensei games only have male leads.

When I spoke with Masayuki Doi, character designer on Shin Megami Tensei IV, we talked about the idea of having a female protagonist in a mainline Shin Megami Tensei game. “I like female protagonists,” Doi said. “It would be cool to have a female protagonist in the next SMT game.”

“However, there are traditionalists that see the series from the past to present and all of the protagonists have been male. To keep that tradition, there is feedback I’ve been hearing saying that if there is a new SMT title we should keep the tradition of having a male lead.”

While there's interest in older and female lead characters at Atlus, it sounds like it's not really allowed to happen for business reasons. They almost assuredly still view Japan as their main target audience as well, so I'm not sure if I see that changing for the foreseeable future.

 

[Aaronrules380]

EO have a lot of steampunk and magitech element into it, so it's not exactly the traditional fantasy RPG they talking about.


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Considering what they've done with Catherine and Persona 5, I'm really excited.

EO is also an example of

Spoiler

it was earth all along trope

 

[OniBarubary]

I think it would be a hard pitch.

This is what happened with Shin Megami Tensai 4: Apocalypse's main character: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1187843



Flynn was 18 in the first game, to note.

And then as far as women go: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/1...-game-with-a-female-lead/#tubXE8bKHZ8Gmu4W.99


While there's interest in older and female lead characters at Atlus, it sounds like it's not really allowed to happen for business reasons. They almost assuredly still view Japan as their main target audience as well, so I'm not sure if I see that changing for the foreseeable future.

Well that's just great.

 

[Haly]

When was the last time we ever seen a redhead elf wear scale armor from head to toe?

(Not an elf but close enough)

 

[Shengar]

Don't forget that Atlus acted like Hamuko never existed despite her popularity.

Those scums at Atlus I swear.

http://pm1.narvii.com/5635/02829170536eaf74fe2a94572f3ce1ada5978dfb_hq.jpg[MG]
(Not an elf but close enough)[/QUOTE]

I should've emphasized the elf, since they stereotypically depicted as nimble fighters that wear tight clothes and the such.

 

[Waji]

Uff New IP, Fantasy, RPG, Hashino, Soejima and Meguro.
Let's do this, I'm ready for the next 5 year wait.
Which means P6 in 10 years T_T

That's good. As much as I liked P5, I think they're better working on something new if they have good ideas.
I just want great games, not especially always the same series.

 

[DrunkShogun]

That's good. As much as I liked P5, I think they're better working on something new if they have good ideas.
I just want great games, not especially always the same series.

It's the smarter and safer move. Beside we will have enough persona 5 side content to get us to persona 6 anyway.

 

[Shengar]

The last time P-Studio try something different is when we got Catherine.

I don't have a problem waiting 10 years for the next Persona games if that mean we could get another Catherine experience (freshness wise).

 

[OniBarubary]

Just like...fuck man, gimme a 28 year old woman as a protagonist or something Japan, what is your fucking issue fuck

 

[AquaWateria]

Just like...fuck man, gimme a 28 year old woman as a protagonist or something Japan, what is your fucking issue fuck

Its hard to self insert as a 28 year old women for the Japanese male audience lol.

 

[OniBarubary]

Its hard to self insert as a 28 year old women for the Japanese male audience lol.

I bet it is for them.

I have no problem inserting myself into a 28 year old woman.

...wait.

 

[Dio]

Its hard to self insert as a 28 year old women for the Japanese male audience lol.

28 is also Christmas Cake territory since she would be over 26.

Then again, there's a niche market for that.

 

[Setsu00]

Don't forget that Atlus acted like Hamuko never existed despite her popularity.

Those scums at Atlus I swear.

Well, uh, actually Atlus released new Soejima art of her for the 20th anniversary of Persona.

You most likely meant as a character in the spin-off games, but still-

 

[AquaWateria]

Its just like how lots of anime have cool male teenagers as self insert.

 

[OniBarubary]

I know, it was less a legit question and more of me venting yet again, rhetorically.

 

[Setsu00]

Hashino sounded really burnt out on Persona after working on P5 for such a long time in one his post-release interviews. I'm glad they're giving him the chance to do something different again.

 

[KimonoNoNo]

The superior MC.

 

[spiritfox]

I just wish the Japanese otakus got their heads out of their collective asses and started embracing more varied stuff.

 

[Dantis]

Dragon Crown's elf wasn't too bad, especially for Kamitani. If we're going way back, Growlanser had classy designs. Sometimes.

Loved the elf design in DC. This is much stronger though, I think. Much more unique. The closest comparison would probably be Witcher? It looks very different from everything Japanese that I can think of.

Well, uh, actually Atlus released new Soejima art of her for the 20th anniversary of Persona.

You most likely meant as a character in the spin-off games, but still-

Uh, what? Where?

 

[Waji]

It's the smarter and safer move. Beside we will have enough persona 5 side content to get us to persona 6 anyway.

Oh yes... I had like 240 hours on P5, I'm really ok with not having one for years now.

 

[Zolo]

I just wish the Japanese otakus got their heads out of their collective asses and started embracing more varied stuff.

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure Catherine did pretty well in sales as well, so at least on pure numbers, I do think a large part is heads just being too worrying about other types of protagonists. I don't think Tales of Berseria really sold any worse than what would be expected either for the Tales series.

The superior MC.

Pretty easy when you come in a game with all the lessons learned from Persona 4.

Also, it should be noted she was used as the advertising pitch for Persona 3 Portable.

 

[AquaWateria]

The superior MC.

Who is she? Lol

She was alright. Maya from Persona 2 was far more superior in every regard.

Although the Persona 3 male MC was the best.

 

[Setsu00]

Uh, what? Where?

There you go.

Soejima's comment: "I also drew Hamuko."

 

[spiritfox]

I guess a classroom doodle is the best she can get.

 

[Zolo]

I guess a classroom doodle is the best she can get.

.

 

[Rabid Dwarf 76]

Just like...fuck man, gimme a 28 year old woman as a protagonist or something Japan, what is your fucking issue fuck

Haven't you heard? Women are like Christmas cake...

 

[AquaWateria]

Till this day P3 female mc is still a nobody......

At least we have Maya.

 

[Vital Tundra]

Not the protagonist??? Nooooo!

 

[Zolo]

Haven't you heard? Women are like Christmas cake...

Could be completely wrong, but at least in media, I noticed that I don't tend to see this joke played out quite as much anymore. Possibly to do with the fact that average marrying age is older than it now.

That said, it's rare to get a male protagonist older than that in Japan, so getting a female protagonist older than that would be great, but definitely not expected.

Not the protagonist??? Nooooo!

Expected since this game's still easily 3 years out. They're pretty much still in the concepts stage.

 

[Rabid Dwarf 76]

Could be completely wrong, but at least in media, I noticed that I don't tend to see this joke played out quite as much anymore. Possibly to do with the fact that average marrying age is older than it now.

That said, it's rare to get a male protagonist older than that in Japan, so getting a female protagonist older than that would be great, but definitely not expected.

I worked in a hoikuen for about 5 years. A lot of my coworkers vented their frustrations about it. It may not be as strong as it used to be but it's still around. One of my former coworkers had even given up on marriage because she said she was too old. She was 38 for God's sake.

 

[the_sun_king]

I would much rather publishers not reveal a game before anyone has even been hired to make it. This is ridiculous. Who knows if/when we will get this, or what it will even be like?

This situation isn't exactly that, though. They're revealing this concept this early because they are looking to hire more staff to work on it under their new internal studio. It's a recruitment tactic, essentially.

 

[Lime]

The superior MC.

Still my favorite Persona game. I wish Atlus would stop centering dudes so much in all their games. Nirolak's post also makes me sad that they seemingly want to continue to play it 'safe'

 

[Zolo]

I worked in a hoikuen for about 5 years. A lot of my coworkers vented their frustrations about it. It may not be as strong as it used to be but it's still around. One of my former coworkers had even given up on marriage because she said she was too old. She was 38 for God's sake.

That sucks and is a real shame with things over there.

Still my favorite Persona game. I wish Atlus would stop centering dudes so much in all their games. Nirolak's post also makes me sad that they seemingly want to continue to play it 'safe'

There might still be a bit of hope since I think Hashino gets a bit more freedom like with Catherine.

 

[Nightengale]

Creative freedom doesn't mean they themselves have inclinations to make a female protagonist.... Just saying.

Maybe I'm bullshitting from remembering something wrongly, but I do recall Hashino or someone saying that they believe what Persona represents as a brand is the select core tenets of "student" and a few other elements, and that is their belief of what the franchise is and should always be.

Tldr; their creative freedom has them restrict what they feel Persona should be, and it's unlikely that we'll ever see an college/university/adult-life Persona game if they remain the core creatives of Persona for the foreseeable future and still hold steadfast to those beliefs.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Creative freedom doesn't mean they themselves have inclinations to make a female protagonist.... Just saying.

Maybe I'm bullshitting from remembering something wrongly, but I do recall Hashino or someone saying that they believe what Persona represents as a brand is the select core tenets of "student" and a few other elements, and that is their belief of what the franchise is and should always be.

Tldr; their creative freedom has them restrict what they feel Persona should be, and it's unlikely that we'll ever see an college/university/adult-life Persona game if they remain the core creatives of Persona for the foreseeable future and still hold steadfast to those beliefs.

Hashino didn't create Persona, and the creators believed that they needed to break out of the school formula to tell different stories. (That's why Eternal Punishment, the best game, exists.)

 

[AquaWateria]

Creative freedom doesn't mean they themselves have inclinations to make a female protagonist.... Just saying.

Maybe I'm bullshitting from remembering something wrongly, but I do recall Hashino or someone saying that they believe what Persona represents as a brand is the select core tenets of "student" and a few other elements, and that is their belief of what the franchise is and should always be.

Tldr; their creative freedom has them restrict what they feel Persona should be, and it's unlikely that we'll ever see an college/university/adult-life Persona game if they remain the core creatives of Persona for the foreseeable future and still hold steadfast to those beliefs.

Closest we've gotten was Persona 2 but Hashino wasn't behind it.

So most likely going forward just expect it to be male teenager.

 

[Nightengale]

Hashino didn't create Persona, and the creators believed that they needed to break out of the school formula to tell different stories. (That's why Eternal Punishment, the best game, exists.)

I know that, but the original creators aren't the current shepherds of the Persona brand anymore.

 

[cj_iwakura]

I know that, but the original creators aren't the current shepherds of the Persona brand anymore.

Sadly, but he should have more respect for the history. If every Persona game is 'a year in high school', it's going to stagnate, fast.

 

[Nightengale]

Sadly, but he should have more respect for the history. If every Persona game is 'a year in high school', it's going to stagnate, fast.

Well, even if Persona 4 to 5 gap is an anamoly, we're still looking at basically only one Persona game per generation of console, with a dozen spin-offs and anime to milk the hell out of the characters until fans are tired of them and want the next cast.

It would be a lot slower to stagnate since mainline Persona games are unlikely to be frequent releases, even by video game development standards of length.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Sadly, but he should have more respect for the history. If every Persona game is 'a year in high school', it's going to stagnate, fast.

Three mainline games in a row of high school haven't seemed to dampen people's enthusiasm for the brand.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Three mainline games in a row of high school haven't seemed to dampen people's enthusiasm for the brand.

It hasn't dampened mine either, but they shouldn't rest on their laurels.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

I just wish the Japanese otakus got their heads out of their collective asses and started embracing more varied stuff.

Oh if only I could tag myself.

 

[nickgia]

Please be a console title.

Good vibes.

 

[LifeBrandRobot]

I just wish the Japanese otakus got their heads out of their collective asses and started embracing more varied stuff.

As long as there are waifus I'm sure they'd be down.

 

[AquaWateria]

Please be a console title.

Good vibes.

They said it would be on home console.

Although they haven't announced which.

 

[cj_iwakura]

They said it would be on home console.

Although they haven't announced which.