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FB worker living in garage to Zuckerberg: challenges are right outside your door
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benicillin
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So above minimum wage but far below livable for that area, especially with rising costs.
Sarcasm or?
He's not doing them favors, they're working for their salary, wtf is this attitude? Holy shit...
Asking for enough money to not live in a garage is entitlement now.
Seems like anywhere else that wouldn't be that bad, but yeah, living next door to Facebook HQ can't be a great place for anyone not making six figures.
efyu_lemonardo
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Minimum wage should be directly tied to cost of living. The fact that it isn't means money isn't serving its purpose on a conceptual level.
He's paying them a pittance to live in one of the most expensive areas in America.
The spoiled plebs are getting overconfident, it's time for a beating if you ask me. Get them back to reality so to say.
I mean they are in a super expensive area. Even tripling their wages probably wouldn't allow them to afford a 3 bedroom house in that area. Most people would just live outside the city and drive in everyday.
Well I mean they aren't forced to live next to the headquarters unless they said somewhere in the article they were.
Nah, he just doesn't have anything to do with this. It's between the contractors and Facebook at this point.
So even Facebook is not resisting the union drive... What could Zuckerberg learn more than seeing heroin addicts and seeing other parts of the world?
That's the entitlement I'm talking about. Unionise, get a better deal and hopefully things will be better for her and her family.
hmmm.......
17 dollars an hour is not a salary. Shit is too low to live on with a family. Regardless if both parents make it.
Mmmm yeah entitled to scrape by on payday loans. Such pretension on their part.
That quote doesn't even ask for that, it ask that Zuckerberg actually see the problems in his own neighborhood, and not having to travel around the country to see that there's inequality.
I'm cynical as fuck at the best of times, but this totally is Zuckerberg laying down groundwork for a presidential bid, so no wonder he travels around the country instead of looking locally.
Emerson
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A lot of couples live on the salary equivalent of $34 an hour, even with a family. Just not in Silicon Valley.
Nah I don't think you understood what I meant -- he can safely travel the world and be concerned about how his own employees are treated.
She's talking as if he didn't give a shit and this article clearly states that Facebook and the service contractors aren't doing anything to prevent them from getting better conditions...
Vault Dweller 111
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$20 an hour as a cafeteria worker seems pretty good. Are all of the 500 cafeteria workers living in a garage or worse?
Is that salary well below what other people doing similar jobs in that area make? And how is the standard of living for those people?
We don't know how that family handles their finances.
Is that salary well below what other people doing similar jobs in that area make? And how is the standard of living for those people?
We don't know how that family handles their finances.
You think he actually gives a shit about the people whose tractor he is driving or the meth addicts he is ogling? He's an empty suit who sees an opportunity now that the bar to run for president is on the fucking ground to make a bigger name for himself.
Pretty much. It says they are within blocks. A living wage is a living wage, but a reasonable commute should be factorable too.
Well I mean they are making 72,000 dollars a year in any other place they would be pretty well off.
ghostofsparta
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Hell yeah they are. There's a lot of poverty in East Palo Alto and east Menlo Park. 2-4 families to a single home, easily.
I'll give it to berg, he's donated a lot to the two cities, but if you ask me the greatest thing he can give is internships to the teenagers of these communities. He needs to help break the cycle.
I'll give it to berg, he's donated a lot to the two cities, but if you ask me the greatest thing he can give is internships to the teenagers of these communities. He needs to help break the cycle.
Zuckerberg's salary is $1 per year. He is rich due to owning 20% of Facebook. Facebook is worth $480 billion.
Lights and Waves
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What a disgusting post.
Frozenprince
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They aren't doing anything to improve their conditions either, which is why they unionized.
They aren't being paid a livable wage based on where they have to live to work there, that's textbook exploitation of labor. This is WHY these employees are unionizing, and I applaud their courage in doing so.
DizzyCaffeine
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Strongly disagree. That's more than most people I know make.
Depends on where you live. You can be a king on 17 in an underdeveloped red state or the shit-tier desert parts of california. In socal or norcal, not so much.
But even giving jobs to kids won't fix the problem of overpriced real estate. The only way to fix that would be to move the HQ out of California. Even people making six digit salaries are having problems finding housing.
Well I mean that is the argument. They don't have to live where they currently are to work there as far as the article says. They could probably find better housing if they would live away from their work. They are choosing to live so close to the headquarters should FB have to pay someone more just because they don't want to commute.
i3allistic
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Can't really defend them, there already getting paid better then min. wage ..a job that not complicated ...don't want to come out as begin a dick, but it is what it is ...and they live in a high cost of living area ...yeah ...can't expect to get paid $25 an hr while some people with college degree barely make $25+ an hr
Well I guess I do believe he gives a shit, yeah.
But my post isn't even based on whether or not he does -- they're creating an union and Facebook isn't even against it.
Beside finding another job, that's the best option they have right now. What do you want Zuckerberg to do about it?
What could they do?
You say this as if Zuckerberg isn't literally the head of Facebook.
GameAddict411
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The amount they are making together could actually be considered to be more than enough in some parts of the US. It's another reason why a nationwide $15 minimum wage doesn't make any sense. Living costs significantly vary depending on where someone is living.
Frozenprince
Banned
Give them a livable wage based on their cost of living for that area?
VeryGooster
Banned
Damn that's heartbreaking
The Dutch Slayer
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SF is a terrible place to live yeah sadly nothing new.
Nothing about raising the Federal minimum prevents states or municipalities from raising their own minimums above it to adjust for local costs of living.
cr_blah_blah
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Where are you getting $72k from?
How much would that be?
I mean I don't want to sound facetious, but do you know how un-reasonnable the area has become in terms of cost of living?
Get them payed more as the executive of his company, something entirely in his ability to do? Why does he have to work through a contractor for this? Hire the current employees you are paying the contractor to serve food and whatever else, and pay them a wage that will take them out of this situation? He could do that out of his own damn pocket and not lose an ounce of sleep. Spare me.
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