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FIFA 18 on Switch accounted for 1% of all UK physical copies sold
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frankie_baby
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I'm talking about local multi not online, that is where switch shines but obviously its difficult with such a low userbase
The first fifa did well on Xbox one and PS4 and those were late ports. Pretty sure the Vita version did better than the switch version as well.
I want to believe a patch is coming, because we had such patches recently for Fast RMX and NBA2K18.
Maintenance
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I dont agree that the reason the game hasnt sold well is because theres no option to play online with friends.
Most people heavily invested in Fifa have it on other consoles, and the game is too expensive for casuals, the fact theres then a lot of options missing but yet the game appears to be priced higher at retail than the other versions and there's no compelling reason to buy it, unless you really want to play fifa on the go.
The most compelling reason for Fifa for many is Ultimate team, yet theyve gimped it compared to PS4 and Xbox One, and the market is pretty terrible too due to a low install base so were left with a catch 22. People interested in Ultimate team are concerned at the lack of transfer activity etc but unless more people buy the game it wont improve.
Im still adamant that a demo would help sales a little. There must be many people like myself that are tempted by it, but unwilling to buy blind. Why on earth isnt there a demo?!
Most people heavily invested in Fifa have it on other consoles, and the game is too expensive for casuals, the fact theres then a lot of options missing but yet the game appears to be priced higher at retail than the other versions and there's no compelling reason to buy it, unless you really want to play fifa on the go.
The most compelling reason for Fifa for many is Ultimate team, yet theyve gimped it compared to PS4 and Xbox One, and the market is pretty terrible too due to a low install base so were left with a catch 22. People interested in Ultimate team are concerned at the lack of transfer activity etc but unless more people buy the game it wont improve.
Im still adamant that a demo would help sales a little. There must be many people like myself that are tempted by it, but unwilling to buy blind. Why on earth isnt there a demo?!
Totally agree.
So now we're resorting to outright lies?
When is Nintendo going to patch their own infrastructure so this isn't an issue period? It's 2017.
Maintenance
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No one on here obviously knows the reasons, all we can do is obviously say why we wont buy it (well apart from the gaf members who dont even own a Switch but post on every Switch related thread to shit on it - I wonder when theyll get bored of doing that).
But in my mind Ultimate team is the biggest part of Fifa, so in my mind it makes sense that anyone invested in it wont find much appeal in the Switch version with a terrible market, and core features cut out.
I dont doubt that as you say some people are avoiding it because they want an option to play with Friends or a multitude of other reasons, but if I was going to place a bet on it, my money would be on the state of Ultimate team being a major cause.
The casuals probably dont care either way, for me a casual wouldnt be on a forum anyway, theyll see the price and think fuck that.
Ultimately I dont think EA care much for it anyway, which is a shame as if they played their cards right they could really maximise their profits. Its fine now as the install base is shit compared to other consoles, but if the Switch keeps the momentum up itll be a big market for EA to consider, and if they keep shitting on people then by the time they do care it might be too late.
Football is one of the biggest sports in the world, there is going to be a market for it with people that want to play on a portable system. Im hoping Konami get off their ass and bring PES 2019 over next year. Even if its the hybrid version PC had for ages.....In terms of gameplay and features it was the same.
Frankfurter
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What? When and where?
Switch is still somewhat supply constrained in parts of Europe. For example go to mediamarkt.de and try to order a grey Switch online. It's not looking too well either, if you look for MM or Saturn retail stores (there is an online search function on MMs and Saturns website, feel free to check for yourself).
Fifa 18 was supply constrained (like: you literally couldn't buy a single copy) in a couple of markets, especially Germany.
I believe the FIFA situation was cleared up early this week. I haven't checked recently, but early in the week Mediamarkt showed wide availability for FIFA Switch. Same thing in UK from what I could tell from online retailers and stock trackers.
Do we know how this is doing elsewhere in Europe? Because the day this percentage was mentioned, I honestly thought that may or may not be bad. FIFA does so ridiculous well in the UK on PS4/Xbone and Nintendo does very badly here in the UK that 1% could be an acceptable result. If it was 1% across Europe then that gives more cause for concern, although if EA have undershipped then that's a different thing.
The game isnt selling well, but bundling a game isnt necessarily an indicator, as in the UK they were giving Fifa away for free with PS4s at retailers, and there have been many examples of popular games coming with bundles. Argos were giving it away for free for example with any PS4, and Amazon were too (they reduced the price of the PS4 bundles so a PS4 Pro FIfa 18 bundle was 349.99)
A week ago for 277,15 €:
https://www.mydealz.de/deals/nintendo-switch-online-clas-ohlson-1055145
A month ago for 284,78 €:
https://www.mydealz.de/deals/nintendo-switch-fur-28478eur-inkl-vsk-amazoncouk-1044973
Amazon.de had Switch stock most of the time. Also, Saturn is selling the Switch with Fifa for 333 € right now:
https://www.mydealz.de/deals/nintendo-switch-konsole-neon-rot-blau-spiel-fifa-18-ebay-saturn-1058166
You are registered for 5 years and this is your only post? Nice bait.
Astral Dog
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Poor Switch
MemoryHumanity
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Nintendo needs to get this in the hands of UK players somehow. A lot of people simply aren't aware this exists.
Frankfurter
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"Quite often in Germany" vs. two deals, from Sweden and the UK.
Switch + FIFA: Not available
Jawbreaker
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:lol
I looked up recent deals. I remember seeing more but did not bother searching for more. And twice in the last month is often for a "supply constraint" console.
Those retailers sold to Germany for that price, even if they are not from Germany.
Let's not forget the "supply constraint" Switch and "supply constraint" Fifa 18, which got bundled and sold at a heavy discount. But yeah, keep complaining.
I am fairly sure you are talking rubbish in regards to the Vita version selling better. Vita was pretty none existent in Europe after year 2
Sho_Nuff82
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Their brilliant strategy was to release a competent/well reviewed port of their best selling series, lose money, and then put out nothing afterwards?
Whats wrong with you?
15th dimensional chess players.
Is this version well reviewed? The reviews I've read for it have been luke warm at best.
Sho_Nuff82
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Biggest complaints are lack of friend invites and Ultimate Team. Otherwise, its FIFA.
The feel of the game is different as well. Which is one of the biggest issues against it. Anyone who wanted the "feel" to be like actual FIFA 18, are going to be disappointed.
Jimmyfenix
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Fifa 19 switch legacy edition coming soon
Scully Scully Scoo
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Dont get why are surprised, people buy ninty consoles for ninty type games, cod/fifa/bf and other mainstream titles are not going to sell well on switch. Also doesnt help that their online infrastructure is garbage, this aint the 90s why the fuck would i buy fifa on switch if i cant play against friends? If they had a well developed online ecosystem maybe they could have struck a deal with ms for crossplat but even then xbox aint looking too hot this gen
TwistedFreeze
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Why do people keep bringing this up? You guys do realize other games on the Switch allow you to play online with your friends, right? Even some smaller teams / indie studios were able to do that as well as Nintendo. Switch is lacking in terms of online features, yes, but that's not why Fifa on the Switch lacks the ability to play with your friends
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I know PS4 Fifa players in my office who dont like the feel of FIFA 18. Each year it takes time to get used to changes, sometimes the new balance just doesnt click.
FIFA 17 never really clicked with me, I felt it was too scripted, something was wrong with aerial balls. Fifa 18 on Switch feels more arcade, but in a good way. Its a bit more reactive and imprevisible. Whats wrong with it, is keepers inaptitude on long shots, this definitely needs to be patched. Im now playing in 3-5-2, to harass my opponents and not give easy shots, and things are better.
This Switch version is a different game, with its own balance, and everyone will have its own appreciation of it. I feel like it plays more like PES than previous Fifas. Is that good or bad? PES is a flop, yet its flow is excellent.
Frankfurter
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Nah, this was not about Fifa itself, but the Fifa 18 + Switch bundle from the post I replied to. Sorry for the confusion.
Look up mediamarkt and saturn, Switch is supply constraint.
Edit: The thing is that deals shipping to Germany from other countries naturally present significantly lower value, see trouble with warranty for example.
That was an Amazon.de bundle where they just put the system and a copy of FIFA 18 together. Not sure if that was out of stock, but you could have just made your own bundle by adding the system and the game to your basket.
It looks pretty well stocked based on what their online system shows. Just because one specific SKU is not available, it doesn't automatically mean it's supply constrained. Or would you say the PS4 is supply constrained because the availability of one SKU looks like this?
At this point, the sales of Switch in Germany aren't limited by supply anymore. T-Online has already reduced the price to EUR 299: https://shop.t-online.de/nintendo-spielekonsole-switch-neon-rotneon-blau-32-gb-eu/products/3499
Also, while Clas Ohlson is originally from Sweden, the "deal" was on the German Clas Ohlson page. The Clas Ohlson GmbH is a German company, has retail stores in Germany, and its online transactions are also under German law. There's nothing risky about that.
As far as I understand their Switch network API fully supports searching/playing matches with friends, messaging, etc.
My (obvious?) guess would be that none of this is mandatory.
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So a week or two after being supply constraint, a Fifa + Switch bundle gets sold for € 333? That deal was in the post you have quoted.
I am not sure it even is an official bundle because Sony has the marketing deal.
Frankfurter
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Um what...? That's a really weird comparison. The grey Switch is the most popular SKU for the Switch - out of TWO in total.
I'm not gonna go into counting stores, but just for example: the grey Switch is out of stock in the entire Frankfurt/Wiesbaden/Mainz area (~10 stores) at MM. It's out of stock at roughly 90% of MMs in Northrhine-Westphalia, it's out of stock in every single MM in the Berlin area, out of stock in every single MM in the Hamburg and Munich area. Just browsing the map, there are far more without stock than with stock. The saturn map looks like that, too.
The grey one is the more popular one? Then it's strange that Nintendo continues to supply the neon SKU way more often if that one does not sell at a faster pace.
These are all retailer-created bundles. The only official bundles are for Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey. The only reason for a FIFA/Switch bundle being 'out of stock' is when a retailer stopped to bundle the game with the system, as supply wasn't an issue after the delayed retail launch on October 6.
Frankfurter
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Source?
Scully Scully Scoo
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Ninty is expecting developers to jump through hoops to set up basic online play, don't blame EA for not bothering. 100% ninty fault, this isn't the 80s where they have a stranglehold on the gaming market, either get with the times or get left behind.
but yet (post in the OP)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1440374
many have managed to do it
jts
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EA shouldn't be expected to jump through hoops as other developers do because they have a defacto stranglehold on football games.
It's the only way FIFA can strive tbh. Really could do with some competition, especially from a western publisher with nice pockets.
Licensing effectively ruined football games.
Gross retailers/distribution channels
Anecdotally, you can also see it via Amazon rankings, or in the past, when both systems were out of stock, how quick they were with restocking the neon version while the grey version remained out of stock for weeks.
Skittzo0413
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I will 100% blame EA for not bothering. So much for taking pride in your work. Ultimately the product EA releases reflects on EA. All companies involved in selling products have unfavorable market conditions that they have to deal with.