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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT|Natural Selection Simulator

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OceanBlue

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I hope they remove all that, not sure what is going in the April update, but having to pick specific units to max your score is a bad system. Like why make some not viable for score chasing. Especially when I haven't been pulling any that'd give me much better than what I have right now.
I honestly don't mind it too much considering everyone has Anna and Ursula was free. I just didn't train either of them. I still have a decent score. It just isn't as good as it was when I had Eldigan.

Really I wish we had a bit more warning on who the characters are. We know most of them because they're in the pulls but I need more time to train Anna lol.
 

Firemind

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Dark Breath+ is by far the best dragon weapon. If you don't mind the lower attack damage and want distant counter, then get the other. Dark Breath+ is the best option for team because of its effect. A -Attack/Speed debuff within two spaces all in one is amazing because most of the dragons are tanks. The sole exception being Kamui who is going to be your fast hyper offense dragon, and Ninian your dancer. Both are fast dragons and benefit from Dark Breath+ very well for the rest of the team.

If you really need distant counter, then it's pretty great. But by that time you're likely dead from Nino/Yuria/Rinda.

The reason Ryoma works well with distant counter and Raijinto is because it's a 16 attack weapon and he is physical and usually take a hit and deal a lot of damage back to ranged characters who usually have lower defenses. The dragons don't have that same luxury until a skill like hone/spur dragons is out.
Dark Breath+ and Threaten Res is kind of filty together. Add Fury and Renewal and you have one tanky dragon.
 

lt519

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I honestly don't mind it too much considering everyone has Anna and Ursula was free. I just didn't train either of them. I still have a decent score. It just isn't as good as it was when I had Eldigan.

Really I wish we had a bit more warning on who the characters are. We know most of them because they're in the pulls but I need more time to train Anna lol.

Yeah edited my post on the previous page, using Eirika didn't bump my score at all. I'll have to part with Robin eventually if I want to score higher.

Gotta find a A, B and Special skill for Eirika as well, she'll probably replace Roy. The team buffs matter more than Roy's better damage output when you already have Nino and Robin.

How tight does it get up top? I'm at 3000 rank now with 4388, is 70 more points worth it to try a no death run or just be happy with that?

Really liking Jaffar more than Kagero btw, might make a super ninja out of the two.
 
Preparing for the next hero battle, and im wondering what my team should look like. My idea would be used Takumi with vantage, lucina and olivia, with camillia as a green unit. Would that work? I also have a 4* Nowi (+HP/-DEF), Linde, and 5* Erikia
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
Do weapons with built in triangle adept like Ruby swords stack with triangle adept?

I was wondering if something like Selena with a Ruby sword would make her some kind of super specialist.
 
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Training her has been worth it, she is the ace on my team now.
 
Do weapons with built in triangle adept like Ruby swords stack with triangle adept?

I was wondering if something like Selena with a Ruby sword would make her some kind of super specialist.

While I haven't had them both on a single character, I did have someone with Triangle Adept 1 attack someone with a gem weapon. Effects did not appear to stack; gem weapon overrode TA1.

I'm going to assume if you put them both on the same character, you'll get nothing -- and let's be real here: Do you really need +-60%? lol
 
Think I am going to build out a dragon team. Have a -hp/+res Adult Tiki at 3*, and a neutral F Corrin at 4* and the linchpin Ninian at max level. I also have a 4* Fae but may be better to include a mage for the fourth slot, and cross my fingers for a young Tiki and/or Nowi in the future.
 

Cerium

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Think I am going to build out a dragon team. Have a -hp/+res Adult Tiki at 3*, and a neutral F Corrin at 4* and the linchpin Ninian at max level. I also have a 4* Fae but may be better to include a mage for the fourth slot, and cross my fingers for a young Tiki and/or Nowi in the future.

I wouldn't recommend it with that composition. You'll at least want to wait for the inevitable Hone Dragons to become available.
 

Caspel

Business & Marketing Manager @ GungHo
Quick question, which 4* skills (and the character attached) are the best to use for inherit? I haven't found a guide that showcases which skills to chase after and which characters to use to inherit their skills for. Quick look at my characters and from this thread has been:

Hinata has Fury 3 at 4* (Mostly sword users?)
Lon'qu has Vantage 3 at 4* (seems like this is good for majority of characters)
Donnell has HP+5 at 4* (guessing this is best served for Olivia?)

Are most of the best skills all behind 5*? Wanting to make best use of my 4* characters.
 

ggx2ac

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I hate the tenth stratum quests. I am barely surviving with all four units for the cavalry quest and armoured quest.

12 days left to complete it.
 
I wouldn't recommend it with that composition. You'll at least want to wait for the inevitable Hone Dragons to become available.

It won't be my primary team. Just for fun. I don't even think i would waste any feathers outside of getting Tiki to 4* to give bonfire at some point.
 
Quick question, which 4* skills (and the character attached) are the best to use for inherit? I haven't found a guide that showcases which skills to chase after and which characters to use to inherit their skills for. Quick look at my characters and from this thread has been:

Hinata has Fury 3 at 4* (Mostly sword users?)
Lon'qu has Vantage 3 at 4* (seems like this is good for majority of characters)
Donnell has HP+5 at 4* (guessing this is best served for Olivia?)

Are most of the best skills all behind 5*? Wanting to make best use of my 4* characters.

Abel can learn swordbreaker at 4*, that might be good on some units? I will put it on nowi because of Lucina xD

I use this site to check out skills and which unit can learn them, kinda regret sending out some units for feathers at the start now >.<
https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/inheritance-skill-mega-thread
 
Is there a list of suggested skills for characters? I'm talking the most basic stuff ever; I'm still trying to figure out how skill combos play together, and I'm kind of terrified of making mistakes - like getting MRobin to 5*, which doesn't seem useful now, and fusing all of my Odins together, which seems idiotic.

Would love suggestions on: Eirika, Lucina, MRobin, Linde, Takumi, Effie, Azura, Camilla, Minerva, and (I guess) Eldigan and Lyn.

So far, I'm sticking to just straight-up leveling all of my 5* units, except for seemingly obvious fodder ones, like dupe Roy and Hawkeye.
 

Scum

Junior Member
Oh. Pulled a Neutral Hector but man, that Robin (M) animation -> 3* Robin troll is truly disgusting.
 

Mupod

Member
I hate the tenth stratum quests. I am barely surviving with all four units for the cavalry quest and armoured quest.

12 days left to complete it.

did the cavalry one with Ursula/Blarblade and her two old man buffbots. Dreading the flyer one, though.
 

Cerium

Member
Quick question, which 4* skills (and the character attached) are the best to use for inherit? I haven't found a guide that showcases which skills to chase after and which characters to use to inherit their skills for. Quick look at my characters and from this thread has been:

Hinata has Fury 3 at 4* (Mostly sword users?)
Lon'qu has Vantage 3 at 4* (seems like this is good for majority of characters)
Donnell has HP+5 at 4* (guessing this is best served for Olivia?)

Are most of the best skills all behind 5*? Wanting to make best use of my 4* characters.

There are so many possible and viable combinations that I'm not sure there's really a shortcut to building a team. A lot of us have posted our own builds, but even with similar team compositions and identical characters I've already seen a lot of variation. The best way to proceed is to learn why these skills are desirable; that will help you figure out what heroes to put them on.

Fury is great for offensive characters and characters that you need to trigger <HP effects like Desperation or Vantage. It also carries the added bonus of adding 9 stat points to your permanent total, matching you with more powerful opponents in Arena and enabling a higher score.

Vantage is awesome, but not always the best option for every character. Takumi is generally hard to one shot (if anyone mentions Robin again I'm going to flip a table) and can counter at both range and melee, making Vantage particularly potent on him.

If you want, you can post your 5* lineup and tell us which heroes you're particularly keen on using. Then we can make some suggestions about which skills you might want to target.

Is there a list of suggested skills for characters? I'm talking the most basic stuff ever; I'm still trying to figure out how skill combos play together, and I'm kind of terrified of making mistakes - like getting MRobin to 5*, which doesn't seem useful now, and fusing all of my Odins together, which seems idiotic.

Would love suggestions on: Eirika, Lucina, MRobin, Linde, Takumi, Effie, Azura, Camilla, Minerva, and (I guess) Eldigan and Lyn.

So far, I'm sticking to just straight-up leveling all of my 5* units, except for seemingly obvious fodder ones, like dupe Roy and Hawkeye.
Triangle Adept on MRobin
Vantage on Takumi
Brave Lance on Effie
Vantage/Brash Assault + Fury on Lyn

Very basic suggestions off the top of my head.

If you have Linde at 5* already she is a significantly better option than MRobin.
 

ggx2ac

Member
Quick question, which 4* skills (and the character attached) are the best to use for inherit? I haven't found a guide that showcases which skills to chase after and which characters to use to inherit their skills for. Quick look at my characters and from this thread has been:

Hinata has Fury 3 at 4* (Mostly sword users?)
Lon'qu has Vantage 3 at 4* (seems like this is good for majority of characters)
Donnell has HP+5 at 4* (guessing this is best served for Olivia?)

Are most of the best skills all behind 5*? Wanting to make best use of my 4* characters.

Well, skill choices are mainly based on preferences. There are good skills but it will always change when the meta changes.

The only skills locked behind 5* are those that can only be obtained by a 5* unit like weapon skills like Brave Lance+ etc but you can't inherit exclusive weapon skills like Falchion.

There will always be a 4* character that has a passive skill available up to level 3 without having to be 5*. If I remember correctly, the exception is Life and Death where you'd need a 5* character for it.

Someone&#8203; posted a Reddit guide but I don't have the link for it.

I just browse the skill lists at http://feheroes.wiki/Passives
It will have the other skills in the menu. You can then check a specific skill to find which character has it and then check what rarity the character can learn it.

Edit: Aside from weapon exclusive skills, there are also movement type skills which are restricted like Wary Fighter which only Armoured units can use.

So always make sure to see if you can inherit a skill in the first place before you go spending feathers to upgrade rarity of a character.
 

Firemind

Member
Quick question, which 4* skills (and the character attached) are the best to use for inherit? I haven't found a guide that showcases which skills to chase after and which characters to use to inherit their skills for. Quick look at my characters and from this thread has been:

Hinata has Fury 3 at 4* (Mostly sword users?)
Lon'qu has Vantage 3 at 4* (seems like this is good for majority of characters)
Donnell has HP+5 at 4* (guessing this is best served for Olivia?)

Are most of the best skills all behind 5*? Wanting to make best use of my 4* characters.
Basically,

Hinata: Fury
Lon'qu: Vantage
Klein: Death Blow
Florina, Tharja: Darting Blow
Michaelis: Iote's Shield
Fir: Speed+3
Roy: Triangle Adept
Shanna: Desperation
Narcian: Lancebreaker
Abel: Swordbreaker
Cain: Wings of Mercy
Hunter: Hone Calvary
 

Mupod

Member
after doing 3 arenas and seeing double takumi, I got frustrated and went in with Ursula and her 4* team of cavalry buffers.

Result: double takumi and a level 20 Olivia

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I won anyways but when are they fixing the damn matchmaking
 

Caspel

Business & Marketing Manager @ GungHo
There are so many possible and viable combinations that I'm not sure there's really a shortcut to building a team. A lot of us have posted our own builds, but even with similar team compositions and identical characters I've already seen a lot of variation. The best way to proceed is to learn why these skills are desirable; that will help you figure out what heroes to put them on.

Fury is great for offensive characters and characters that you need to trigger <HP effects like Desperation or Vantage. It also carries the added bonus of adding 9 stat points to your permanent total, matching you with more powerful opponents in Arena and enabling a higher score.

Vantage is awesome, but not always the best option for every character. Takumi is generally hard to one shot (if anyone mentions Robin again I'm going to flip a table) and can counter at both range and melee, making Vantage particularly potent on him.

If you want, you can post your 5* lineup and tell us which heroes you're particularly keen on using. Then we can make some suggestions about which skills you might want to target.


Triangle Adept on MRobin
Vantage on Takumi
Brave Lance on Effie
Vantage/Brash Assault + Fury on Lyn

Very basic suggestions off the top of my head.

If you have Linde at 5* already she is a significantly better option than MRobin.

I'm mostly not concerned about the most optimal skill combinations, but more about which 4* character should I focus on feeding. I have so many that I'm searching to clean up my character box a bit rather than going after feathers.

5* Characters with their levels:
40 Nowi (already learned Renewal 3 for her B)
40 Hector (already have Vantage for his B)
Other 40's: Klein, MRobin, Marth, Seliph, Lyn, Eirika, Sanaki, Camilla, Julia
38 Peri
35 Effie (working on her right now)
33 Jaffar (working on him)
30 Lucius
1 Seliph

4* I am working on or have that have been valuable
40 Corrin
35 Tharja
34 Roy
30 Olivia
12 Cordelia (lack of lances on my team, so started moving towards building them up)
others: Catria, Abel, Camilla, Caeda, Ursula, Merric, Nino, Adult Tiki, Seliph, MRobin and way too many other 4*. I think I have 65 4* right now

My Defense Team: MRobin (40), Hector (40), Julia (40), Olivia (30). They typically win 10-15 battles per ‘season’ with a score of 259. Offense team is usually built around the characters that are needed for bonuses, but typically have Hector and MRobin included in most compositions. Usually in the top 50K on offense, but haven't really chased the top tier brackets.
 

lt519

Member
Yeah, I might have to add Olivia to my defense, people tend to slip up and get caught off guard with dancers.

It'd be nice to know how many defensive opportunities you had.
 

elty

Member
So my core team is

Tiki Girl (+SPD -DEF) (melt Hector)
Reinhardt (+DEF -RES) (eat pineapple)
Kagero (+ATK - HP) (versatile all around)
Hinoka (+ATK -HP) (good for terrain)
Lucina (+ATK -HP) (never use much)
Leo (+SPD - HP) (bait)
Leo 2 (neutral)

Notable 4*:

Olivia (neutral)
Eirika (+DEF -RES)

I also have a bunch of lv40 4* that is either bad, or have bad IV. They are probably useful for PvE so won't touch them.

Not sure to focus and build :/ The skill inheritance is making my head spin. I guess Kagero first, then Tiki?
 

Ninferno

Member
Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia Limited Edition is listed on Amazon.

I don't think it has gone up for sale yet but the refresh spamming begins.

Email alert's all set up. I'm so ready for May 19.

I really hope SoV succeeds. Not only because I liked Gaiden a lot but only also for the sake of potentially having Jugdral remakes on the Switch, reusing whatever engine they come up with for the supposedly FE Switch, just like how SoV reuses Awakening/Fates'. I'm not holding my breath for its sales potential though, considering it's a 3DS game after the Switch has come out. I guess I should be happy if it can do half of Awakening/Fates' number.
 

ggx2ac

Member
I'm making better progress on the tenth stratum cavalry team than I am with the armoured team.

5 wins for cavalry, 1 win for armoured.
 

Cerium

Member
Making more progress.

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After next round of Arena feathers, I'll be able to get Moonbow and Fury onto her as well.

Any suggestions for a Special for Ninian? I'm leaning towards Escutcheon but I could see a case for offensive skills as well. Debating Sol, or one of the attack boosters.
 
Ok I give up. This is consuming way too much time each day and I can't keep it up together with Dragon Blaze and Shadowverse.

I hope they make Awekening playable on Switch in some form for my goddess Lucina :D
 

Draxal

Member
Here are my thought on whalish arena so far, around 464-470 bst tier.

On color tomebreakers happen often. When my rank g tomebreaker 1 fights one with rank 3 and is outspeeded by 5, she gets doubled.

Red Swords went almost from meta to completely useless. I'd much rather have a Tharja in my team then Lucina. Lucina's only role is now as a hard counter to TIki.
 

OVDRobo

Member
Interesting day for me so far.

I finally managed a no-death 7-win arena chain and bagged a score of 4438, which is the highest I've ever gotten. I've made a pseudo-support Rebecca by giving her Noontime and Breath of Life. Paired with her Ardent Sacrifice, seal ATK 3 and high RES stat, she is my go-to mage killer aside from MRobins. She can give 10 HP to anyone she is near to or heal 7 HP to everyone surrounding her just by attacking, and she can act as a backline wedge, reducing the attack of any melee units by 7 before they reach my choke point. It's a weird strategy, but it worked well for me and the teams I encountered.

Also ran into my first instance of horse emblem. I only just managed to scrape by, just because they were using a 4* Frederick which was enough for my Lucina to deal with him and a red horseman who I forget the identity of single-handedly.
 
Looking at Horse Emblem horseshit; how Cecilia can score a OHKO on a swordsman despite triangle disadvantage and how other members should be able to do similar horseshit, I have to wonder if it's possible to set up a defense team capable of scoring a kill on the very first turn regardless of the offense's comp and positioning.
 

Cerium

Member
Looking at Horse Emblem horseshit; how Cecilia can score a OHKO on a swordsman despite triangle disadvantage and how other members should be able to do similar horseshit, I have to wonder if it's possible to set up a defense team capable of scoring a kill on the very first turn regardless of the offense's comp and positioning.

I don't think it is.
 

Mupod

Member
Speaking of horseshit, Ursula buffer team has been working pretty well in arena. They are all 4* - Ursula with Odin's tome, and vanilla Jeigan/Gunter/Stahl. I started running Eliwood but he sucks, Stahl gets shit done as he comes with a Ruby Sword and Swap to protect Ursula from any greens that get close. I did one round with my usual team except Ursula swapped in for Robin, and the other 6 with the 4* units - still ended up at almost 4200. If I hadn't moved Jeigan to the wrong spot twice I could have been easily above 4200. It was really easy too, didn't lose any matches with that team even when it put me against 2x Takumi. Great SP farming for Ursula as well, as bonus units get 3 per kill in arena - she'll have Moonbow in no time.

Slowly getting a few new 4* units close to 40 - I plan to copy the 3* unit guy's strategy and tackle Michalis with Lilina, 3* Narcian, Subaki and Olivia. I'll have a 4 flyer team ready for the 10th stratum quest soon but I'm not too confident in that. I'll be running my second Camilla (has better stats than the old one), Cordelia, Caeda and Subaki for that one. I also have a fairly high Catria but Subaki seems to fit the tank niche a lot better based on what I've been doing with him.

While I may lack 5* units, soon I'll have a pretty impressive variety of usable level 40s of all types except armored. I have jack shit for armor units. I tried leveling my Sheena but she's -atk and does no damage to anything ever.
 

Cerium

Member
I'm really curious to see the Cavalry Emblem and Flier Emblem teams in Arena.

I know how they work on paper but I feel like it can't compare to witnessing them in person.

Wouldn't even be mad if I lose.
 

Mupod

Member
I'm really curious to see the Cavalry Emblem and Flier Emblem teams in Arena.

I know how they work on paper but I feel like it can't compare to witnessing them in person.

Wouldn't even be mad if I lose.

well my cavalry team would be no good because only Ursula can kill people, the rest are super slow. The AI wouldn't buff her properly and at best she'd get a surprise nuke on someone in an early turn. Part of why the buffbots work is that they have 3 move so I can kite and reposition as much as I want. The AI just attacks anything in range and it'd get all split up.

I think a team of 4 mounted casters all buffing each other would be extremely obnoxious. There's no playable mounted archer yet but that could be goofy too.
 
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