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First Halo 4 GI information (Spartan OPs, multi, etc) [Update: Campaign/More Details]
- Thread starter Demoncarnotaur
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Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Step one in the right direction confirmed.
I've played thousands of Halo matches and don't see the problem with these changes (besides random weapon drops, which is not a CoD thing anyway). 343 are making things a bit faster-paced, and also adding features to make it more accessible to new players, but the core gameplay seems intact.
The list in the OP makes it seem like instant respawn has only been confirmed for Team Slayer thus far. Maybe the implementation will be absolutely terrible, none of us can say for sure just yet. But keeping the game eventful and reducing frustration by allowing players to get right back in the action is a good thing in theory.
NullPointer
Member
For non-objective games? Absolutely, and its good to hear some confirmation on that.
But man, being drip fed this info is like torture ;P
It shouldn't be in any competitive gametypes.
Even in a Slayer context, whether this is a good thing or not ultimately depends on a huge number of things - shield recharge delay and speed, weapon characteristics at range, map design, and most importantly, the spawn system. Halo has had absolutely awful spawns for a very long time, and unless that gets fixed, then this could be a very frustrating addition.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
When you've read all the books, playing the games without sprint and all the Super-man stuff just feels stiff, cold and emotionless. I'm all for sprint and a faster game.
Well that's a new one.
I like you junior. Objective ultimately became the neglected red-headed stepchild Bungie didn't want anything to do with when Halo 3 released. Hopefully 343i returns Objective back to its Halo 2 glory days.
dilatedmuscle
Member
Spartan Ops is the Halo equivalent of COD's Spec Ops... Could they have atleast changed the name a little bit.
Genesis Knight
Member
Did Bungie abandon objective or did most of the population just move away from objective naturally?
AdmiralSnackbar
Member
Book halo is almost closer to Vanquish than game Halo. But I would rather they do a spin-off if they want to showcase all of the crazy acrobatics Spartans can do.
NullPointer
Member
Invasion seemed like one hell of an investment into a new objective mode, and one that played into the fiction somewhat.
You'll play VIP, Stockpile, Headhunter, instant arm Assault, and Land Grab and like it.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Psychoward
Banned
So the power weapons might switch every 2 minutes or so to a different, set, weapon. But than that wouldn't be random.
Psychoward
Banned
Call of Duty made people not care about objective games anymore.
Objectives were already terrible in Halo 3 before Modern Warfare hit. Instant-arm Assault, Land Grab, terrible Capture the Flag ideas like no proximity contesting and several other minor changes that added up to a terrible Objectives suite no one wanted to play. Modern Warfare's ultimate popularity was just the nail in the coffin.
That's the point. They're not "random." It's a terrible way of describing the system by idiot writers.
too much eslim
Member
honestly we should just wait and see if there is a ranking system similar to halo 2 or even halo3. If it is like reach than honestly these changes will not matter because like reach I would not care about my rank.
shinobi602
Member
Agreed. Sprint should have been in since the very first game. Spartans should feel like Spartans.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Am I the only one who enjoys Halo regualrly and is fairly receptive to change around here? Haha I kind of felt bad when I didn't mind certain aspects of Reach, and I think I am digging myself deeper. Ah well, Im assuming just as much as anyone, but I bet people will be surprised when they finally get to play this.
As others have said, I bet there will be a wave based/survival Spartans Ops weekly.
As others have said, I bet there will be a wave based/survival Spartans Ops weekly.
Im kinda confused, it is mentioned in the article as an AA, not a reward. As far as I can tell, there aren't any killstreaks in the game. That said, they did mentioned "modifications" and while I obviously don't know what they are, I assume they are things like extra grenades/ammo rather than killstreaks. But hey, who knows.
Awesome. =)
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
This Halo has a voice of its own and it extraordinary.
They should have just said we pretty much just mad COD so really its like a Crysis 2 clone now.
They should have just said we pretty much just mad COD so really its like a Crysis 2 clone now.
All I play in CoD is Search and Destroy though.Call of Duty made people not care about objective games anymore.
Bring back Halo 2 ranking system or implement a FIFA like ranking system.
Halo 3's didn't make any sense, Reach's was pointless, and Arena was a mess.
too much eslim
Member
what is funny is that in reach all i ever used was sprint.
FateBreaker
Member
I understand CTF, and stuff like that but I originally said that this was probably just for that particular competitve mode--and I was right. Yay.
But I have yet to hear a convincing argument as to why I have to wait five seconds to spawn again in a big team competitive battle or something that five seconds clearly wouldn't make much of a dent, except alleviate my irritation of always waiting five seconds, of course.
Psychoward
Banned
Same lol. I'd occasionally use Drop Shield in BTB or Jetpack when I was screwing around, but I used Sprint almost every single time.
too much eslim
Member
also why are people even upset about anything. There are going to be classic halo playlists. They know some people just like their vanilla halo.
shinobi602
Member
No you're not the only one.
I'm very open to some change. Seeing that it will still retain its Halo essence, I'm fine with some changes.
Yes, what Halo games need is more playlist to further split up the community.
Just like how Reach had a classic playlist at launch. o wait
Yeah, because 343 was handling that right.
too much eslim
Member
that was bungie doing this is 343. plus i believe them saying they would do that.
Just saying it's far from a guarantee that there will be a classic playlist at launch.
too much eslim
Member
what messed up the stuff was all this griftball and playlists that actually overlapped each other. squad and big team is essentially the same thing. If i was 343 there would be about 15 playlists max.
Look at how 343 went about fixing Reach. Yeah, I have more faith in them.
30 playlists in Halo 4 confirmed.
Tetrasides
Neo Member
I think the forerunner vision is being misinterpreted.
too much eslim
Member
everything else was pointless for me. now that sprint is standard i am now more worried about bumper jumper.
Scapegoat
Member
Spartan Ops sounds awesome! Should be a first step toward matching the Spartan team aspect described in the books. Hopefully they have unique gameplay hooks like the Spec Ops in MW/MW2 and the coop in BF3, and it's not simply a tweaked firefight mode ala Uncharted 2 (run into area defend against X number of waves, run to next area, repeat).
Psychoward
Banned
And oh man am I glad the Carbine is back.
Yep, again all of 343 fault bro
Tetrasides
Neo Member
I was quickly browsing through the GI article, and it said "assault carbine" - what would that be?
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
I think almost everything is being misinterpreted.