B_Rik_Schitthaus
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No, I took down vehicles with skill regularly.
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First Halo 4 GI information (Spartan OPs, multi, etc) [Update: Campaign/More Details]
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No, I took down vehicles with skill regularly.
It looks and sounds awesome but completely ruined vehicle combat in Halo 3.
The perfect solution would be lock-on rockets a la Halo 2 but with reduced homing, imo. At least in halo 2 you could avoid rockets in some circumstances. In halo 3 if you see the laser tracker you may as well just get out of the vehicle.
Or just don't have a dedicated anti-vehicle weapon (except for air vehicles) and just let people use tactics / grenades...
It didn't ruin vehicle combat at all. It made the game so much more awesome and goal-oriented. Despite the fact that I only played in the Team Deathmatch for Halo 3, the inclusion of the Spartan Laser in maps like Valhalla and Standoff made the matches seem a bit like Capture the Flag games at the beginning. If two teammates wanted to board a warthog and cause some gatling gun massacres, it was up to me or another teammate to run to the center of the map and grab the Spartan laser first to make sure we could safely use vehicles.
It was a thing of beauty to have that level of division of responsibility. Everyone had a goal because power weapons like shotguns and lasers and swords meant that instead of running around the map without any group cohesion, we had plans. We had to get to the power weapon before the other team did, we had to take control of a certain location, we had to conserve ammunition for that power weapon, we had to make sure that whoever had the power weapon remained alive and was followed by a teammate to make sure the weapon didn't fall into enemy hands. We had someone keeping count of the respawn time for the power weapon to get the next one when it came along.
And if we had the power weapon, we controlled the vehicles. It forced the other team to remain on foot and behind cover. And of course, I've been on that side of the match before. It's fun and strategic, not mindless. And if the other team had the laser and was driving around the map in a hog shooting us up, it became even more fun when I got close enough to stick the hog (two stickies to kill unless you stick the opponent directly) and got to see the plasma grenade spinning so fast on the hubcaps.
Yeah that's true. It's not as bad in Halo Reach though is it?
This is all well and good; but it's the effectiveness of the laser I have a problem with, rather than a centralising power weapon existing at all . If the other team has the laser, its game over in Halo 3 in terms of vehicle combat. It's a real shame because the integration of vehicle combat is one of the most successful aspects of the halo sandbox in my opinion, and they were hardly worth using in Halo 3 with the spartan laser ruining the fun .
Worst of all, if the other team controls the laser AND is using vehicles, you're completely screwed because of the awful grenades in H3.
I didn't play reach multiplayer long enough to find out XD. If it wasn't as bad I certainly remember the plasma launcher being just as cheap.
snoopeasystreet
Member
They should bring back halo 2's RL but let you be able to shoot the rockets down.
I agree up to a point. Sometimes in the Standoff map the morale of my team would drop significantly if the other team got the laser and the vehicles. The other team would gain a 10 to 0 advantage in the scoreboard and we would give up, basically. But there were other times when we pushed through it. If we remained patient and waited inside the structures, we could gather up some plasma grenades, run out to the camo power-up and stick the vehicles to stop the run.
Some of the most fun times I've had playing Halo 3 was when my team was down by a lot and we came back to win. You sound like you're arguing against power weapons because they give too much of an advantage, and while you're right, you should probably get new teammates if everyone gives up so easily.
Plus, there's only three maps (non-big team) that I remember as having both lasers and vehicles. They were Standoff, High Ground, and Valhalla. And with High Ground, vehicle use was discouraged by other obstacles aside from the laser. How could your experience of the entire game be ruined when other maps like The Pit, Boundless, and Guardian lacked the laser advantage. I think Boundless only had the laser in some of the modes.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Spoilers man! They are cool but still.
NullPointer
Member
Why are we getting so many tidbits from toys first?
Not even close. Laser is sandbox-breaking. Plasma Launcher is the most balanced antivehicle weapon in the series.
dancrane212
Member
Thanks for the warning, I'll be more careful which sites I check out for the next few days.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
It was bound to happen, I imagine anything super secretive wont leak out this way though.
To be honest, I think the one is a
sentinel, albiet a new form
indigenous life, or 'attack dogs'
These toys were always due out before the game released, so nothing that isn't meant to be seen before the game comes out is being shown atm.. just earlier than planned.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET TO PILOT THE GODDAMN PELICAN?
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Halo makers hate us and will never give us the opportunity
I just want a few fuckoff huge maps where I can load like five team mates into a Pelican and drop them off. IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK? No side guns. No turret at the back ala HALO 3. Just a big ol' flying transport vehicle.
When am I going to be able to alert people that we're in for some chop?
Demoncarnotaur
Member
No. 3 Plots could not be created at all in 3, and it's in Reach, but the maps lack for it. You couldn't re-create the Assault from 2 into 3 or Reach either because both lack sticky arming, and in 2 after you arm it in the direct circle, you plant it by walking to the object in the middle of it.
Also neither had any flag/bomb contesting, which was pretty significant in being aware of returns.
I'd hope not, but I honestly wouldn't surprised. It had no purpose in Reach, either, since it was unused in campaign outside a few minor instances.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Yup, it is very nice:
I wish I knew Chinese, I would contact the seller to see if they had more info or could share better pics of the back of the packaging.
That blue thing looks super creepy, so does the "crawler" actually. Can't wait to see it in-engine.
They both seem like peripheral enemy types rather than the main "foot soldier" we'll be fighting... but they don't look particularly forerunnery to me though; maybe we really are fighting something completely new, or maybe some kind of flood-esque (but not the flood) corruption of the forerunner
They both seem like peripheral enemy types rather than the main "foot soldier" we'll be fighting... but they don't look particularly forerunnery to me though; maybe we really are fighting something completely new, or maybe some kind of flood-esque (but not the flood) corruption of the forerunner
The fact that they have names like
crawler
watcher
the watcher seems like it'll float above the battlefield; so I doubt it'll be the main enemy type of whatever faction we're fighting in Halo 4
I mean these clearly aren't the enemy that was teased at the end of the concept art trailer last year.
This should be it's own thread. New news not to be muddied up in this thread/Community one. I searched and nothing came up.
I believe I read somewhere that weapon drops will have a pattern that the players can follow. Perhaps a shotgun or rocket launcher will spawn in 3 or 4 places throughout the map in a random order but after playing on the same map a few times players will be able to predict where to go to get the next spawn. It's not a big deal, if that's the case. It just makes it more complicated and requires more movement around the map.
Inferno313
Banned
Did anyone just get an Email about a Halo 4 puzzle piece?
I have 14/32, apparently.
This is what it looks like:
I have 14/32, apparently.
This is what it looks like:
Check the community sections, tons of people are now assembling it.
The Xtortionist
Member
Looks like Chief is being sucked into a giant blue asshole but it's cool besides that.
Hypertrooper
Member
I like that design.Here it is!
Credit to spawn031
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Amazing image.
NullPointer
Member
God damn thats good. I hope the game can conjure even close to that level of scale.
Given the history of the series I have no reason to doubt it.
Given the history of the series I have no reason to doubt it.
The Xtortionist
Member
343 has the lead level designer of Donkey Kong Country Returns! Anything is possible!
AHappyPanda
Member
Nope. Why they even bothered to fuck with the melee system instead of leaving it like H2 is beyond me.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Some new MP footage i think. Not much though. Really need E3 to get here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ldzZCZYa4d8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ldzZCZYa4d8
TUROK
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They keep saying how awesome the weapons are going to sound, but they keep obscuring the sounds in any MP footage. At this point, they... well, the BR sounds pretty weak to me. Fingers crossed for being proven wrong.