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[adamsapple]

Dude was using PC footage???

Lay easy on the meme crack-pipe and read before posting, grandpa

All the pictures I've posted are from video(s) with Series X running in Performance RT mode.

Sources:

 

[Kilau]

Gotta say, for a game that came out in 2005, Forza Motorsport looks amazing.

 

[systemr123]

I see adamsapple working overtime.

Yes our MS marketeer has yet another hard day here lol. It must be pretty hard when you’re so deep in an illusory world that you just can’t accept reality no matter what.

 

[mrmeh]

Both look good, just slightly different colour setup. Like some pics/videos better on GT7, maybe slightly more on FM with the more detailed scenery. Hope FM8 plays well, did not like 7.

 

[Flutta]

Lay easy on the meme crack-pipe and read before posting, grandpa

Easy now kid i know you've been working overtime spreading the message. At least you should know what a question mark means?

 

[Mr Reasonable]

One thing's for sure, people who enjoy finding screenshots where a game looks really bad for a split second are going to have a great time with these games.

 

[Gudji]

Dude was using PC footage???

It's E3 2013 all over again.

 

[Gamerguy84]

Did they reverse roles from previous gens?

Forza looks very washed out while GT is more colorful. I own GT with VR and I'm not even bringing that in just basing off the videos.

 

[SlimySnake]

Wow, fucking amazing!

Best weather since Driveclub. not sure if its better, but its very close. Great looking rain droplets on screen. I wonder if it has the windshield physics when you turn and the rain acculumates for a second before being washed away by the windshield wipers.

demigod is going absolutely nuts lmao. four LOL reactions in the last 30 seconds. I am spending the next two days in this thread, only 4k short of 70k reactions. Should hit it with demigod's help by tomorrow.

 

[solidus12]

Frustration must be killing him

 

[Flutta]

memes are fine. its just that adamsapple is taking the time to post actual comparisons and getting mass LOL reactions from team sony (i counted 8 on that one post) which is not a good look for us lmao

we need to post memes in the PC performance thread which is not great at all. especially after the redfall and starfield fiascos. not a good look for ms first party.

Adamsapple has quite the reputation around here, i'm not surprised he gets that type of reactions. Compare him to us? we shit on Sony all the time lmao.. this is nothing. Xboys should be able to handle it

 

[Del_X]

I need an HDR comparison

 

[Roxkis_ii]

I think GT looks better to my eyes in the still pictures, but not enough from stopping me from trying Forza to see how it feels to play (if my laptop can handle it)

 

[adamsapple]

memes are fine. its just that adamsapple is taking the time to post actual comparisons and getting mass LOL reactions from team sony (i counted 8 on that one post) which is not a good look for us lmao

Appreciated my brother but it's kinda become second nature now. I post a thing with reference, some familiar names @ me, I reply to them in kind and only my post(s) get deleted.

 

[SlimySnake]

Frustration must be killing him

I saw this with Starfield. The xsx version is lacking shadows and AO and it really hurts the visuals especially in meme towns like New Atlantis.

On one hand, im happy that the PC version is not being sacrificed for consoles. On the other hand, they should do a better job focusing on getting crucial settings to enhance fidelity into the console version. Starfield is 1440p. Why? Just downgrade to 1296p and get better shadows and AO. hell, even a 1080p game at higher visual settings will look better with proper upscaling techniques.

They have a lot more headroom here in Forza. I believe their performance RT mode targets 1800p. Just drop down to 1440p and increase visual settings to PC high.

Honestly, this is proof that devs should focus on one sku and make sure it looks fantastic.

, I reply to them in kind

yeah, dont do that. keep your cool. and argue your point. you know you are in the right here. just stick with the facts, ignore the insults and you wont get modded.

 

[NickFire]

Forza looks good, but the parts of the comparison videos where my eyes will focus while playing looks better in GT. I'm starting to think that console isn't ready for RT yet.

 

[skyfinch]

FM looks like ass in some videos, then look amazing in others.

This one in particular looks really good, especially at the end when he is racing on Limerock. Overall, I'm happy with the improvements, not blown away by then..And hopefully when they add more cars and tracks, and update things, they can go back and improve on the graphics as well.

 

[R6Rider]

GT7 with the better colors and has VR.

 

[Musilla]

RT during races gives Forza a massive edge, especially at night / rain times. There's no reflections in GT and everything looks much flatter by comparison.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

FM looks like ass in some videos, then look amazing in others.

This one in particular looks really good, especially at the end when he is racing on Limerock. Overall, I'm happy with the improvements, not blown away by then..And hopefully when they add more cars and tracks, and update things, they can go back and improve on the graphics as well.

Agreed. But when it looks amazing it really looks amazing. Can’t believe we’re getting this with RT on console. Lighting especially blows GT7 away.

 

[nosoynadie22]

I think FH8 has better graphics than GT7. but if we were to compare real life racing with these two games, then GT7 would have a greater resemblance to reality at least with videos, FH8 looks very artificial.

 

[DrFigs]

Frustration must be killing him

That's crazy when the fanboys admit it

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Lay easy on the meme crack-pipe and read before posting, grandpa

Wow. Those comparison videos are so different. Forza looks fucking sick.

 

[SlimySnake]

That's crazy when the fanboys admit it

nah, its refreshing. shows growth.

NGL, gt7 looks amazing here.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Also in replays Forza seems to run at 30fps and GT7 at 60fps, which means GT7 does not have ray tracing activated

30 fps replays and cut scenes in gaming are the worst.

 

[Insane Metal]

nah, its refreshing. shows growth.


NGL, gt7 looks amazing here.

Sorry, you're stupid because you didn't play GT7. It looks amazing most of the time.

I'd show it to you if I could.

 

[tmlDan]

I cant even answer this poll, i think it's as expected - generally i think GT7 looks better but in some cases lighting and other details are better in Forza.

 

[Porticus]

WTF You can clearly see which company made a game with passion and the other with simply checkmakers.

 

[SlimySnake]

Sorry, you're stupid because you didn't play GT7. It looks amazing most of the time.

I'd show it to you if I could.

in my defense, i did buy it when it went down to $25 earlier this year, but walmart didnt honor the price mistake. i had figured sony wouldve added it to ps+ premium by now.

i always thought GT Sports looked fantastic in cloudy and dusk lighting conditions. I only had a problem with the midday lighting which had this really harsh look. Spiderman had this as well, and they have fixed it with the sequel. Same goes for Forza 7. I always thought it looked ugly during mid day and its a relief to see them finally fix it.

 

[Snake29]

Lighting in GT looks gamey? You can't be serious. I'd like to know why white colors look so blurry in Forza. Doesn't make sense.

It's pretty obvious that Forza has more going on like pointed out by Turk1993 in the other thread. All cars headlights casts shadows at night for example, more reflection on rainy weather and so on. Also RT in game. After all the game did get made by the ground up for this gen. So Forza is the more advanced graphics here.

On the other hand, I still do think GT7 looks better most of the time. Lighting is unmatched and car models still look clearly better, specially because the materials look less plasticky and the way light affects the materials is more realistic. I think it all comes down to PD's artistry than anything else.

Also a video which shows how beautiful GT7 is at night.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

WTF You can clearly see which company made a game with passion and the other with simply checkmakers.

Can't say I've ever felt passion in a GT game. Maybe passion to take a nap?

 

[Insane Metal]

in my defense, i did buy it when it went down to $25 earlier this year, but walmart didnt honor the price mistake. i had figured sony wouldve added it to ps+ premium by now.

i always thought GT Sports looked fantastic in cloudy and dusk lighting conditions. I only had a problem with the midday lighting which had this really harsh look. Spiderman had this as well, and they have fixed it with the sequel. Same goes for Forza 7. I always thought it looked ugly during mid day and its a relief to see them finally fix it.

I'll put some gameplay on twitch for you to watch.

But seriously, the game looks so good. Much better than GTS.

 

[Reckheim]

yeh, GT7 looks like a completely different gen at night.

 

[Gambit2483]

I think GT looks better to my eyes in the still pictures, but not enough from stopping me from trying Forza to see how it feels to play (if my laptop can handle it)

Same, I'll at least try it on Gamepass to see if it's not just a case of looking worse in videos.

The replays only being available in 30fps is a shame though.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Also a video which shows how beautiful GT7 is at night.

The track lights aren't even on in GT7. FM looks way more advanced in this video.

 

[Turk1993]

Circuit with lights vs circuit without lights, both look accurate.

 

[NEbeast]

I don't know about you guys, but Forza's realistic lighting does much better in some comparisons.

GT here looks very "gamey" by comparison. The much better trees on Forza also help.

Gt still looks better in those. Also, who tf cares about the trees in a racing game? You're laser focused on the track/cars.

 

[jroc74]

This comparison video shows that next gen does not automatically means ‘better’.

And the fact that GT7 is going toe to toe with a current gen only game is something.

 

[demigod]

Check it out. You can see the headlight reflections in GT7 when your car is behind the other yellow car. You don’t see it in FM8.

 

[SlimySnake]

Also a video which shows how beautiful GT7 is at night.

Just looking at the youtube screencap, its odd that only the player car headlights are illuminating the track. i know forza horizon had some issues with headlights casting shadows, but im surprised that only the player is lighting up the track in gt7.

 

[Senua]

Appreciated my brother but it's kinda become second nature now. I post a thing with reference, some familiar names @ me, I reply to them in kind and only my post(s) get deleted.

Jim Ryan is definitely a mod on gaf, only my digs at sony get deleted and never my jabs at anything MS

 

[SlimySnake]

I'll put some gameplay on twitch for you to watch.

But seriously, the game looks so good. Much better than GTS.

oh ive seen plenty of videos on youtube. Im a graphics whore remember. The new trial mountain track looks the best. the tokyo track looks great at night. But daytime lighting still had the same issues GT Sports had.

 

[Slicker than your average]

GT7 takes it but also gets bonus points for being playable on PSVR2. Where's the Xbox vr option?

"Our customers aren't asking for vr" Phil Spencer

 

[Sleepwalker]

These sims are so boring they're not worth arguing over lol

 

[JackMcGunns]

Based on IGNs video. GT7.

Based on the video below. FM8. Looking forward to DF's video.

 

[Unknown?]

I see adamsapple working overtime.

His check gonna be big!!

 

[GladiusFrog]

Gran Turismo 7 is the best looking racing game out there ..
The Details are ridiculous, Only Gran Turismo 8 will top it.

With that said, Forza still looks great.

 

[GHG]

The track lights aren't even on in GT7. FM looks way more advanced in this video.

They've just turned on lights (and it looks like additional lights have been placed) that wouldn't be in use during a race.






ACC is the official GT3 simulator btw, so trackside details will be accurate.

Circuit with lights vs circuit without lights, both look accurate.

It's the same track my man.

 

[Snake29]

Just looking at the youtube screencap, its odd that only the player car headlights are illuminating the track. i know forza horizon had some issues with headlights casting shadows, but im surprised that only the player is lighting up the track in gt7.

At 4 min, the cars in the distance also cast shadow on each other.

Also trackside lights shouldn’t been on during races, That’s not realistic. Just look at the 24 of Le Mans for instance. No lights are on, only car headlights.

 

[Mr Moose]

Just looking at the youtube screencap, its odd that only the player car headlights are illuminating the track. i know forza horizon had some issues with headlights casting shadows, but im surprised that only the player is lighting up the track in gt7.

Might depends on the car or something, some of them are lighting the track (3:25, 3:56 and so on).