McKeeverFever
Banned
I'm thinking of buying this today on PS4 but before I do can anyone confirm or deny that the PS4 will be getting the additional pc content?
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Galak-Z: The Dimensional |OT| Macross the Universe
- Thread starter orthodoxy1095
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Is it normal to have crash coin "dry spells"? I had 10 of them a couple of days ago at the end of season 2, but now I can't seem to get any at all. Tonight I went through the entirety of season 2 without a single drop, then halfway through season 3 without a single drop, then back through the first two episodes of season 2, still without seeing a crash coin. I'm killing everything I come across, too, finding all the chests, farming scrap, etc. It's starting to feel like a bug after consistently getting at least one per episode.
I'm guessing it'll be in the next patch, but the man himself has confirmed that the PS4 version's getting everything.
I'm guessing it'll be in the next patch, but the man himself has confirmed that the PS4 version's getting everything.
grandwizard
Member
Enjoying this game but there doesn't seem to be a lot to it environment wise. Just seems to be the same two structures and open space.
Also now that the PC version is out I have been wondering why they made the controller layout the way they did. Using the WASD + mouse controls is so much better. You completely separate thrusting control while your other hand controls orientation. Why did they not use the right stick for orientation on the gamepad / console layout, and the left stick for thrusting (forward/back and strafing)? I get that the game has a specific style of controls, but the default gamepad layout just seems badly thought out FOR those controls.
Instead of using a bumper to turn on strafe at whatever direction you are currently flying, the left stick should have been fotward/back and strafing thrusters (relative to your ship of course, so you retain the tank controls of the game), and the right stick for orientation/aiming. Then the bumper should have been used to engage the 'pan the camera' around function of the right stick. That way a stick isn't wasted for the pan the camera function.
Sorry for the rambling it just completely baffles me why the controls were made that way.
Also now that the PC version is out I have been wondering why they made the controller layout the way they did. Using the WASD + mouse controls is so much better. You completely separate thrusting control while your other hand controls orientation. Why did they not use the right stick for orientation on the gamepad / console layout, and the left stick for thrusting (forward/back and strafing)? I get that the game has a specific style of controls, but the default gamepad layout just seems badly thought out FOR those controls.
Instead of using a bumper to turn on strafe at whatever direction you are currently flying, the left stick should have been fotward/back and strafing thrusters (relative to your ship of course, so you retain the tank controls of the game), and the right stick for orientation/aiming. Then the bumper should have been used to engage the 'pan the camera' around function of the right stick. That way a stick isn't wasted for the pan the camera function.
Sorry for the rambling it just completely baffles me why the controls were made that way.
grandwizard
Member
Really smooth here, i5 + 970.
i'm really enjoying this on PC, but there's a few things that annoy me:
a) boosters and normal thrust being on different buttons on the gamepad. It would've been nice if I could feather the trigger for normal thrust and pull back the throttle for boost. As it is my hands cramp up after 3-4 sectors.
b) ship doesn't move nearly fast enough without upgrades and you spend a lot of time just beetling around in space
c) not enough environments, just started s4, is it just gonna be asteroids and space hulks?
d) story is so middle of the road it's actively bringing me down. character animation is god-hideous (okay, it's not that bad, but it's... blargh), the writing isn't genuine enough to be enthralling or snarky enough to be funny, timing is off on a lot of scenes/lines, and also nothing really seems to be happening. Also, every character is either bland or irritating (although there's only three characters). It's kinda a dumb thing to complain about considering what this game is but it's still irritating.
a) boosters and normal thrust being on different buttons on the gamepad. It would've been nice if I could feather the trigger for normal thrust and pull back the throttle for boost. As it is my hands cramp up after 3-4 sectors.
b) ship doesn't move nearly fast enough without upgrades and you spend a lot of time just beetling around in space
c) not enough environments, just started s4, is it just gonna be asteroids and space hulks?
d) story is so middle of the road it's actively bringing me down. character animation is god-hideous (okay, it's not that bad, but it's... blargh), the writing isn't genuine enough to be enthralling or snarky enough to be funny, timing is off on a lot of scenes/lines, and also nothing really seems to be happening. Also, every character is either bland or irritating (although there's only three characters). It's kinda a dumb thing to complain about considering what this game is but it's still irritating.
Bobs Big Boy
Member
Fun as hell and feels pretty unique, having a good time.
Bananastand
Member
I find it pretty crazy that we still haven't gotten any word on Season 5 yet. They must be planning something pretty big I guess...
Shin Kojima
Banned
They'd better at this point.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Lol, I forgot this game existed (ridiculous since I made the frigging OT). Damn, S5 still not out yet? Sheesh.
Gave this a shot and am so disappointed it was made with Unity. As with so many Unity games, well, it looks terrible in motion. The screen judders along horribly despite the game operating at 60fps. The cursor and ship move properly but the backgrounds do not scroll smoothly. The same issue exists in PS4 footage of the game (though that also seems to have actual slowdown - just like most Unity games on consoles).
I ran into this same issue with Roundabout - the scrolling of the screen just looks terrible.
I just don't understand why so many Unity games struggle with basic fluidity. It's not even performance related in these situations. It really cuts into my ability to enjoy the game as it just doesn't look nice in motion.
I ran into this same issue with Roundabout - the scrolling of the screen just looks terrible.
I just don't understand why so many Unity games struggle with basic fluidity. It's not even performance related in these situations. It really cuts into my ability to enjoy the game as it just doesn't look nice in motion.
Bananastand
Member
Nothing new so far. Judging by twitter the devs seem to mostly be visiting events and showing the game to new crowds. Sucks that early supporters need to wait so long.
I am going to guess we are never getting the new modes and season 5 on ps4...
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I can't imagine they'd drop it on PS4. When it comes out, we'll get it.
Bananastand
Member
They haven't got a new one yet?!
grandwizard
Member
For real. Seems like this game gets a pass when press is complaining about episodic games taking forever.
Nope. Still putting out the call as of a day or two ago.
It's "getting a pass" because it wasn't explicitly advertised as an episodic game, and because people aren't paying attention to this game either way.
HyperZone<3
Member
Just put an hour into it and I'm really liking this so far. Its got charm to spare in its presentation and I love the control scheme. Pretty dang good stuff so far.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
It's "getting a pass" because it's a low profile game.
family_guy
Member
Was playing this the other day after not playing it in months. I was only an hour in, but for some reason I went to start playing again and I'm all the way back at the beginning. How does the save system work?
Got this for $10 on Steam the other week and played about an hour. The artstyle and music are great and I'm having fun so far but I was disappointed to learn that Season 5 still isn't released. If a game is missing that much content it should be marked as early access.
Glad I didn't pay full price. That being said it's still a beautiful game, I hope it does well enough for further support.
Glad I didn't pay full price. That being said it's still a beautiful game, I hope it does well enough for further support.
mejin
Member
still waiting here.
Same. Bought it during the winter sale for $12. Just recently finished the first 4 seasons.
I love the art style and game mechanics, but the content is really lacking. The mission layouts, regardless of whether you're inside an asteroid or a ship, are all the same and content is recycled over and over. They could have done so much more with it, from different types of missions and layouts to different kinds of enemies to more "metagame" (overworld map, resource mechanics, strategy mechanics, etc). Think Galak-Z mechanics + FTL variety and progression.
I like what's there, and I'd easily recommend it to shooter fans, but it feels like a $10 purchase.
Bananastand
Member
I bought it for 16 euros on PSN so I'm not that upset, but I do find it kinda strange that they don't give you much warning about one whole season missing from the game.
I have tried to contact the devs on twitter a couple of times but no replies so far. I wonder if they are reading this thread...
orthodoxy1095
Banned
There was someone from the 17-Bit teakm posting in this thread, so they certainly know the thread exists.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Update from the developer on the Steam forums:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/300580/discussions/0/496879865900145824/#c412448792345994715
I hope everything he's saying here still applies to the PS4 version as well.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/300580/discussions/0/496879865900145824/#c412448792345994715
I hope everything he's saying here still applies to the PS4 version as well.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Well hey. It's an update at least. Good to know it's making progress at least
base shagohod
Member
Same here. Kinda disappointed to find out it's still not in..
25_Cans_Of_Bacon
Banned
Disheartening to hear this isn't selling well, despite its flaws and unfinished state, underneath it's got an incredibly enjoyable engine and replayability. I've poured about 350 hours into it since release.
My favorite shooter of all-time easily. 17 bit should be supported even though they've left this one hanging for a while. They're a great dev.
My favorite shooter of all-time easily. 17 bit should be supported even though they've left this one hanging for a while. They're a great dev.
Feels like it got a lot of talk in a small circle of gaming outlets, just like Skulls of the Shogun. It's sitting at only 15.5k owners on Steam(Spy).
Fuck. It was strange to have them basically go silent after their launch tour and the promise the free last episode. I am glad they posted an update and explained their situation.
That's good to hear.
fastballspecial
Member
People are seriously into some weird shit if Galak-Z fell short of sales expectations.
I would have bought it at launch if it had Arcade mode, but I'm glad it's finally here. I just don't have the time/skill/patience for rogue-likes. Rogue-lites I can handle.
I dunno if there's DLC but I'd be happy to pay something if I enjoy the game as much as I expect to.
captain_skyhawk
Member
Ya, I don't know who this game was really appealing to?
For a schmuck it has an overly lengthy tutorial with a whole lot of dialogue. Once you get past that it's got some obtuse menu in your way instead of just letting you play the Dame thing.
There isn't anything wrong with either of those things but it's a really hard sell for people who just want to play a game.
I was anticipating this game for quite a while and I completely understand why it flopped--the progression system is obtuse (and that's when it's working as intended, which isn't always the case), there are quite a few technical issues and the procedural generation aspect isn't very compelling or dense enough for it to be the focus of the entire game, and beyond that, they delayed and retooled this game so many times that all their hype had drained away by the time it was finally released.
Picked this up via PS+, and am trying to really give it a shot. The barriers so far are truly awful UI and between mission flow, and the controls. I'd be loving it were it a twin stick shooter, but as is I never really feel in control of the ship, at least not when there are multiple enemy groups in the same space. I just find myself careening about hoping not to blow up.
Going to keep at it for a bit, but if I give up, it'll be the decision to go with momentum/thruster based controls that do it.
Oh wow, that was an addition? I've died 10x and I'm on mission 5. 0_o
Going to keep at it for a bit, but if I give up, it'll be the decision to go with momentum/thruster based controls that do it.
Oh wow, that was an addition? I've died 10x and I'm on mission 5. 0_o
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
The controls are unorthodox more than anything, and that's not necessarily a bad quirk. The game feels remarkably tactile because of it, and it would've felt a lot less satisfying to play if the devs went for something more typical. I mean, it is what it is if it's not your cup of tea, but it's not the game's fault if you feel like you're flailing about.
So I'm getting a bug where the game thinks that I'm playing on PC. The on-screen controls are replaced with letters (ASWD etc..) and the primary attack button is often unresponsive; to the point where i have to reset the game in order to attack. The framerate is also very jumpy. I wonder if it's because I'm using the beta firmware.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Keep playing until you get comfortable. The controls feel incredible IMO, much more satisfying to maneuver in than any twin stick shooter I've ever played. I've rarely felt so in control of and attuned to a character/ship as I did in Galak Z. That movement style combined with the thrust effects and missile trails also make it the perfect representation of the era of anime the game's paying homage to.