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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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whitemex88
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I dont think cersei dies this season. I'm more than likely wrong though.
I think the mountain will die around ep.4
And i really hope Qyburn doesn't die. He's my favorite side character
SporeCrawler
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If cersei dies at episode seven so will jaime. tyrion will be the lord of casterly rock.
That reminds me how pissed I was that Tywin died without ever knowing his cupbearer was Arya Stark.
The Right Deal
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Alright, I'm pushing my bet on Little Finger's death to episode five and filling out the list with Grey Worm in episode six.
Netherscourge
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Cersei won't die until the The Mountain dies.
The Clegane Bowl needs to happen first.
Vyse The Legend
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Netherscourge
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Vyse The Legend
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Of the main 3 characters, only Cersei is compelling. If she goes, the show will stop being interesting, mark my words.
Daenerys finished her character arc in S1 and since then has not grown or changed in an interesting way. She has been in the same mode for the past 6 years, her character is empty and cannot carry a show.
Jon Snow is basically your bland hero dude McGoodguy. He needs interesting people around him to operate.
Same deal with the supporting cast.
Jaime is nowhere near as interesting without Cersei.
Tyrion's arc ended at the end of season 4 and has since then been ghosting through the show. The only thing we are looking forward to with him is reuniting with his siblings.
I don't think Cersei dies this season for this reason. If she goes, the show loses its narrative thrust, it just becomes about waiting for the White Walkers. If the last arc is just Jon and Dany fighting the zombie apocalypse together, I'm checking out.
Daenerys finished her character arc in S1 and since then has not grown or changed in an interesting way. She has been in the same mode for the past 6 years, her character is empty and cannot carry a show.
Jon Snow is basically your bland hero dude McGoodguy. He needs interesting people around him to operate.
Same deal with the supporting cast.
Jaime is nowhere near as interesting without Cersei.
Tyrion's arc ended at the end of season 4 and has since then been ghosting through the show. The only thing we are looking forward to with him is reuniting with his siblings.
I don't think Cersei dies this season for this reason. If she goes, the show loses its narrative thrust, it just becomes about waiting for the White Walkers. If the last arc is just Jon and Dany fighting the zombie apocalypse together, I'm checking out.
Vyse The Legend
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The show is ending. Losing Cersei this late in the game would not have a significant effect on the show's popularity or the rest of the narrative, especially if she goes at the end of this season. People are invested until the end now.
And there's no more waiting for White Walkers; they're here.
Kenzodielocke
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I disagree on Jon. He has been a pretty compelling character since season 6 when he returned. He might be the clostest thing to a hero in Game of Thrones, but that fact doesn't make him uniteresting. He is basically Ned 2.0.
Tyrion's arc, neither Dany's haven't ended at all.
Tyrion's arc, neither Dany's haven't ended at all.
I agree that Cersei's character and arc is by far the most interesting, while Dany and especially Jon Snow can be bland. I am, however, looking forward to Dany's story this season, simply because she is FINALLY in Westeros. We've waited a very long time to see her interact with the Westerosi nobility.
True, but with the Walkers here, it becomes standard good vs. evil without Cersei around. I'm not saying the show will stop being popular, I'm just saying she has far and away the most interesting arc on the show. If she goes, Game of Throne's black heart goes with her.
Tyrion hasn't done a damn thing since the end of S4 that's been worth discussing. He joined with Dany and has basically been her helper since then. Dany hasn't had a meaningful change since she became confident throughout S1. Her arc has literally been about treading water for 5 straight seasons, all building to her FINALLY getting to Kings Landing. That could have been off screen, and all we would have missed were cool CGI dragon scenes and Dany walking through flames and shit.
As for Jon and the Starks, they are only as interesting as the obstacles they are up against. Arya less so, but with Jon and Sansa? Definitely. Not saying that makes them bad or boring characters though, that's just what their role is.
Yautja_Warrior
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With how things normally go for the good guys in GoT, I'm half expecting the Night's King to be sitting on the Iron Throne by the end of it all.
metalslimer
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There were leaks a while ago. Not sure if they turned out legit, but I wouldn't risk looking for it.
Robdraggoo
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The good guys can't win in the middle of the story. Becuase then it would the end of the story.
right, yeah I was asking because when these kind of leaks happen people run rampart about telling them everywhere and I need to avoid that.
Yautja_Warrior
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What ? I was talking about the end of the final season. As in the White Walkers win the final battle.
You know it baby. Strap in for that ride lol. I've been waiting for this since season 1.
Robdraggoo
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Sorry, I was referring to your comment about how the good guys always lose on this show
Pagusas
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He was saying that the middle of a story generally does have the good guys defeated/harmed/ at their lowest. Like Empire Strikes Back. It establishes the threat is real and pushes the drama up. The third act is the hero's win act.
GRRM said on multiple occasions that GOT will have a bittersweet ending. While arguing the execution of ending a long running show/story is fine, I'm positive that after the finale there will be many tantrums where people, consumed by arrogance will claim that it shouldn't have ended that way, whichever way it may end.
D&D made mistakes, some pretty big but I do expect them to get the ending right. Dorne was a waste of precious screen time that could have been used on pieces of the story that felt rushed. Their knowledge of the books was tested and GRRM granted the rights because of it yet their stubborn refusal to do flashbacks (until they finally caved in the season 5 opener) is conflicting the way some crucial elements of the story are setup. To this day I still don't get how they refused to do Ned's dreams/memories as they were equally relevant as say, Daenerys visions in the house of the undying. I was sure they would go there because they were setting it up, when Arya trains with Syrio Forel focus was on Ned's face as they replaced the sound of wooden swords clashing with the sound of metal ones.
I admit that I did look up GRRM's eye color after Old Nan's line "the sky is blue because we live inside the eye of a blue eyed giant" but I haven't had concerns about the ending since.
D&D made mistakes, some pretty big but I do expect them to get the ending right. Dorne was a waste of precious screen time that could have been used on pieces of the story that felt rushed. Their knowledge of the books was tested and GRRM granted the rights because of it yet their stubborn refusal to do flashbacks (until they finally caved in the season 5 opener) is conflicting the way some crucial elements of the story are setup. To this day I still don't get how they refused to do Ned's dreams/memories as they were equally relevant as say, Daenerys visions in the house of the undying. I was sure they would go there because they were setting it up, when Arya trains with Syrio Forel focus was on Ned's face as they replaced the sound of wooden swords clashing with the sound of metal ones.
I admit that I did look up GRRM's eye color after Old Nan's line "the sky is blue because we live inside the eye of a blue eyed giant" but I haven't had concerns about the ending since.
parrotbeak
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Based on pics, they look brown?
JustSomeone
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Petyr will survive the show.
He is the only one i'm 100% confident about except the 3 targaryans.
720p/2.0 audio is no way to watch GoT.
Why HBO don't introduce their service over here rather than go exclusive with Sky I'll never know.
Kenzodielocke
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Sky app is utter garbage and so is the quality. Sadly, it's the only legal way to watch.
Succinct Verbosity
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I don't know if amazon offer it straight after broadcast, but they typically would be the first to get the show up for purchase.
Here are all the official HBO-produced recaps.
Seasons 1 & 2
Season 3
Season 4
Season 5
Seasons 1-6 recap
jediyoshi
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Lemon cakes for all!
ComputerBlue
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Cozmogramma
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Yep, I just got done re-watching it and it's a real drag sometimes with some pretty bad scenes. Ep 9 and 10 more than makes up for it though, as they are two of the best episodes in the series.
That wasn't as jarring for me as just how easily swayed the citizens of the Iron Islands are.
I mean, that was definitely shit. Everything regarding the Iron Islands is shit. That line just encapsulates it so well. I have laughed out loud each time I've heard it.
In general, the show has really declined. The best moments in recent seasons have been payoffs for things established years ago.
I've seen Seasons 1-3 at least 3 times with different people and I've loved the hell out of it each time. The new seasons are so uneven and hackneyed. Of course, part of the problem is that a lot of the best characters are dead. Part of the problem is that storylines for surviving characters have stalled, or are just boring as fuck.
But a lot of it really just comes down to shitty writing.
I continue to watch because it is still interesting in the moment when things go down and I've invested this much into it. Season 7 has the potential to deliver a lot of payoff and action and the truncated schedule means less filler. I hope.
But I am fast-forwarding a lot of this Season 6 rewatch.
mercenar1e
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Cersei Lannister - She's going to win the the game of thrones.
The Wall - Episode 7
Yara Greyjoy - Episode 5
Petyr Baelish - Episode 6
Future prediction
Danaerys Targareyan - Season 8 Episode 5
Jon Snow - Season 8 Episode 6
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