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Gran Turismo 6 |OT| Moon Rover The Castle
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To be fair, GT5 lighting engine was created from scratch, and its car models were unrivaled at the time.
For GT7 one would assume, it will continue to use the same lighting engine with tweaks here and there and car models can be reused... HOWEVER the problem is going to be the tracks... Most of the current tracks are not up to 2015 standards, and all of them need to be reworked somehow. (textures, geometry). I think the reason we haven't seen any track DLC for GT6 (remember Seattle?) is that PD realized this, so instead of wasting time on PS3 versions, went straight to PS4 development...
who knows.. maybe winter 2015 is possible (most likely winter 2016).
That, and the PS4 is considerably easier to develop on than the PS3 was. Kaz keeps saying the same thing about the difficulty in the PS3's hardware when he's talked about GT5/6's development, or even when he comments on PS4 development. I wonder if they've upgraded the current engine to support defferred rendering and a full Global Illumination solution, even if their lighting engine is already great.
They already had a working 'demo' in Prologue at that time, but still took another 5 years to get it right.
Late September 2013, with just over two months before GT6 goes on sale to the public PD were still not sure if the course maker would launch with GT6. And here we are 12 months later, still waiting....
How about the promised B-Spec? Nope
then again, who cares? 
How's that unprecedented Kaz Q&A Discussion going? "Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi will be reviewing questions posted in this forum and answering a selection of the most popular (as determined by votes/"Likes") over the next few weeks."
5 months ago this thing launched and the only question answered was about the previously alluded to GT6 sound update. Three blog post entries dragged out of 7+ weeks which amounted to 'making sounds is hard, there will be no update, hmmm.. maybe would should hire good sound engineers?'
So yeah, dates and timelines are worthless when they come from Kaz.
Hmm, so are they basically admitting that the course creator isn't coming? Depressing if so.
brotkasten
Member
We should wait for GT6's anniversary and a potential Spec II announcement. If there's nothing around December, we can give up on it.
They already had a working 'demo' in Prologue at that time, but still took another 5 years to get it right.
Late September 2013, with just over two months before GT6 goes on sale to the public PD were still not sure if the course maker would launch with GT6. And here we are 12 months later, still waiting....
How about the promised B-Spec? Nope, Community Features? Nope.then again, who cares?
How's that unprecedented Kaz Q&A Discussion going? "Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi will be reviewing questions posted in this forum and answering a selection of the most popular (as determined by votes/"Likes") over the next few weeks."
5 months ago this thing launched and the only question answered was about the previously alluded to GT6 sound update. Three blog post entries dragged out of 7+ weeks which amounted to 'making sounds is hard, there will be no update, hmmm.. maybe would should hire good sound engineers?'
So yeah, dates and timelines are worthless when they come from Kaz.
This really irks me. For a moment I thought we would get consistent communication.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Spec II Course Maker on PS3 won't have GPS capabilities, the idiots should have just kept in the GT5 Course Maker with the 8 missing themes added.
The tracks used in Prologue are the tracks with pre-baked lighting though and probably didn't take as long to develop. Just like how Autumn ring was pre-baked in GT5 but now supports real-time lighting in GT6. They probably had to do a ton of R&D to get a realistic real-time lighting transition to work at 60fps, semi 1080p on the ps3.
Kaz said:
They already had a working 'demo' in Prologue at that time, but still took another 5 years to get it right.
Late September 2013, with just over two months before GT6 goes on sale to the public PD were still not sure if the course maker would launch with GT6. And here we are 12 months later, still waiting....
How about the promised B-Spec? Nope, Community Features? Nope.then again, who cares?
How's that unprecedented Kaz Q&A Discussion going? "Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi will be reviewing questions posted in this forum and answering a selection of the most popular (as determined by votes/"Likes") over the next few weeks."
5 months ago this thing launched and the only question answered was about the previously alluded to GT6 sound update. Three blog post entries dragged out of 7+ weeks which amounted to 'making sounds is hard, there will be no update, hmmm.. maybe would should hire good sound engineers?'
So yeah, dates and timelines are worthless when they come from Kaz.
It hurts, reading this, but it is so true....
I think Kaz is just saying, Hey, we started working on GT7, so don't expect any updates on GT6 anymore!
Read between the line with these guys ;-)
I think consistent communication from PD (doesn't need to be Kaz) would go a long way. I would love for them to hire a PR person to just give the fans a brief of what's going on. 30-45 minutes a year (given the long development cycles of the series) to give us an update does not seem too much to ask in my opinion.
7 years of work between GT4 and GT5 Spec-II to achieve that lighting engine, which they then throw in the bin and try to INCREASE the native resolution to 1440x1080 for GT6.
The only notable improvement is the cleaned up alpha effects from smoke and water spray. But the lighting engine and weather is less realistic looking overall, the framerate is worse and the increase in resolution is ruined by the poor AA implementation. What kind of crazy person tries to increase the resolution when their current 7 year effort already struggles to hit 60fps?
Years pissed away when they could've been working on new content or actually completing the features they were advertising right up until launch. Their priorities are just baffling.
Naked Lunch
Member
Im sure its already been posted - but I was one of the dudes who kept getting error messages when trying to install the lastest GT6 patch. Well it seems they finally released another patch correcting this. I had to delete the old patches - and it took quite literally 5-6 hours to install - but I can finally play the game again. Yay!
Huh. So I decided to play some gt6 after a hiatus of a month or so, and I'm having issues with the personal bgm. I'm trying to open Ps3 system music folder to select my BGM, but it keeps popping up with "an error has occurred. I-8002B105". I have no idea what that even means and Google searches come up with nothing. All my music is mp3 format and has worked fine before. What should I do?
Absolute, absolute deal breaker for me with GT7. I had a lot of fun with GT5 and GT6 but it was definitely despite the persistent performance issues. I'm simply not going to stand for it any more, not with Assetto Corsa and pCARS there to pick up the slack.
This could be Kaz's last chance to prove to me that he hasn't completely lost his marbles and is somehow capable of making sensible decisions again.
scorcher59
Member
With all these announcements from KAZ and talks about GT7 coming really soon and being amazing i hope the next step is a full page ad on gaming magazines and web ads that read: "Kazunori Yamauchi's about to make you his bitch ...scroll down... SUCK IT DOWN."
Goldrusher
Member
They should add a proper arcade mode with Driveclub's handling.
GT always had an arcade mode anyway, but it was always more of a "quick race" mode with the same physics as the rest of the game. Why not make it a real arcade mode?
Not only would it be a ton of fun, it would also be an answer to the many people who complain that Gran Turismo has become "too real", "too hard", "too boring", "too sterile", etc.
Guaranteed to improve sales and review scores.
GT always had an arcade mode anyway, but it was always more of a "quick race" mode with the same physics as the rest of the game. Why not make it a real arcade mode?
Not only would it be a ton of fun, it would also be an answer to the many people who complain that Gran Turismo has become "too real", "too hard", "too boring", "too sterile", etc.
Guaranteed to improve sales and review scores.
No real need for that with SRF physics and preconfigured ABS and TCS setups.
"Arcade" is something tied to execution and design, not actual physics.
And there is the point I ABSOLUTELY agree with you. Even more, the recent Sierra Time Trial is the ultimate way to design GT Arcade Mode, but with every track in the game having been part of that, and unlocking structure (as it existed in GT1 and GT2 for Arcade Mode regarding courses).
It would be great challenge and would allow many players to learn tracks. I find current setup of Sierra TT (similar to Sega GT and very reminiscent to F355 Challenge's Great Driver Challenge races) as phenomenal foundation for refreshing the gameplay design and still keep it very "Gran Turismo".
So yeah, proper Arcade Mode all the way.
seattle6418
Member
It´s kind of sad that we are celebrating how good they are structuring the arcade mode in Gran Turismo...
I´ve always thought with more hardware power they would go towards simulation, but playing AC and GT6 back to back with the same car makes my head hurt. They´ve lost it, and it´s such a shame that they don´t seem to be pushing the limits on the simulation aspect.
Let´s see what they can deliver in GT7 around christmas of 2016... by then we will be experienced in AC and Pcars, so the bar will be set. Competition has to be good, and GT7 can´t be the same sterile and unfocused product like GT6, right guys?
I´ve always thought with more hardware power they would go towards simulation, but playing AC and GT6 back to back with the same car makes my head hurt. They´ve lost it, and it´s such a shame that they don´t seem to be pushing the limits on the simulation aspect.
Let´s see what they can deliver in GT7 around christmas of 2016... by then we will be experienced in AC and Pcars, so the bar will be set. Competition has to be good, and GT7 can´t be the same sterile and unfocused product like GT6, right guys?
Hopefully they got the message with the low sales of GT6, especially in the US. IMO pCARS has the most to gain. FM5 was good but is only on XB1. DC is well... So for the PS4 there is nothing even close to a sim. On PC pCARS is "the GT for the PC".
Gouda Jouji
Member
Man, GT4's driver animations were way ahead of their time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd-JUF2mC3w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd-JUF2mC3w
Judging from the "time", GT5's and GT6's still are.
"Human" component was one of the key pillars of GT4 development, tbat is the reason why GT4 have all those details covered: great driver animation, 3D spectators with AI routines, pit crews and such..
GT Vision was made with intention to push it forward, but RAM constraints of PS3 held back everything for one whole generation.
Yeah, from 1.08 onwards was a problem for most people. Try this:
1) Download and install updates 1.01 through 1.07 like normal.
2) Once the game begins downloading 1.08, cancel the update process and let the game boot up.
3) After the game has done the internal install and you are at the main menu (GT Home), quit the game and download and install 1.08.
4) Once the game begins downloading 1.09, cancel the update process and let the game boot up.
5) After the game has done the internal install and you are at the main menu (GT Home), quit the game and download and install 1.09.
6) Once the game begins downloading 1.10, cancel the update process and let the game boot up.
7) After the game has done the internal install and you are at the main menu (GT Home), quit the game and download and install 1.10.
8) For any additional updates, just keep repeating the process.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/707208-gran-turismo-6/69750046
Ah the memories. The human element was the subject of one of my favorite GT trailers of them all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qt1vZNqiWw (second half mostly).
Kaz, where are my Italian city tracks? I will pay a lot of money to have Citta di Aria again.
Yep. That's exactly how I've been doing it. No luck
Try starting all over by deleting the patches in the [game data] menu of the XMB. Then try installing each update one by one starting with the first.
To delete game data patch:
(1) Go to the XMB (Cross media bar) > [GAME] > [GAME DATA (PS3)] and press the X button to enter the menu. (DO NOT DELETE ANY CONTENTS OF [SAVE DATA].)
(2) Select [Gran Turismo 6] and press the △ button.
(3) The option menu will appear. Select “Delete” and press the ○ button.
After deleting the patches, start installing the patches over doing these steps.
http://community.us.playstation.com...tion-quot/m-p/44601420/highlight/true#M671306
Hope this works man.
I literally tried this 6 fucking times last night. PD really doesn't want me to play their game.
What the hell, these updates are a bitch lol.
How about trying a file system restore?
http://community.eu.playstation.com...llation-fails-repeatedly/td-p/21884147/page/3
Haha, Renato from Rino should see this
)And also, it is demoed in the offical FIAWEC tents.. that is even more interesting through FIA endoresment from this summer..
Fried Food
Banned
that with oculus rift would be the pinnacle of the genre
Ted
Member
Since none of you wanted to play and most of my GT5 friends have moved away from the series as there is no shuffle I ended up playing a load of of the quick events last week.
The street car races at Autumn Ring are cracking good fun but holy shit some of the driving on display is atrocious. PD really need to tweak their track edge detection and their collision detection penalties if these events are ever going to yield clean racing.
I'd be keen for them to expand these events so that the currently spare space on the event selection screen is reserved for longer races (~ten laps instead of two or three) and also to make each event contain maybe three tracks on rotation rather than just one repeated ad infinitum. This would mean we get a little more choice without sacrificing too much the gaining of track knowledge through repetition.
This plus the current lobby hosting system gives us a best of both worlds scenario for online racing that I would love to see continued and expanded.
One thing I didn't know is that when you select an event you appear to be matched with people with the same SRF setting as you have on single player. For most of the week I was playing in events with a relatively small number of players (4 - 6 players) with SRF off but when a friend was visiting and trying the wheel setup I adjusted the single player settings so that he had SRF on and later that evening when I selected a quick event I was dropped into a basically full event. I was a bit surprised but then when I went into the options to turn off traction control (it seems to deafult to 5 in these courtesy cars) and I noticed SRF was locked on instead of off.
I found it pretty interesting that in GT of all things the SRF events are consistently much fuller than the non-SRF ones.
I played a few like this and though the bad driving was even more evident the events are actually quite good fun with SRF on. You can really treat the cars like a hoonigan and get away with it. This is the first time I've really played with SRF on for any appreciable length of time and I now basically agree with the poster in this thread who previously stated that with SRF on GT can be a really fantastic arcade style racer as well as the usual sim-lite GT gaming I am used to.
Nero's Neptune
Member
Whenever there's a Nurburgring seasonal I just can't fucking do it. I have no idea why. I can't get less than 12 seconds behind, which is a fucking lifetime. Even using one of my "cheat" cars like the GT40 Mk-I I can't do it.
It's also fucking annoying how you have to wait about a minute for the rolling start to finish.
It's also fucking annoying how you have to wait about a minute for the rolling start to finish.
Ted
Member
It's not though, not round 154 corners.
.08 at each one sounds more achievable, no?
That said the current Nordschleife seasonal requires a pretty good lap for a gold.
This is so true!
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
some russian guy has made a gt5 / 6 .vol decrypter.
the gt4 one allowed you to swap content with tourist trophy, so the top gear track and missing ferrari f1 cars could be put back in gt6, and if there's somebody out there that cares enough, maybe custom liveries and sounds banderas.gif
the gt4 one allowed you to swap content with tourist trophy, so the top gear track and missing ferrari f1 cars could be put back in gt6, and if there's somebody out there that cares enough, maybe custom liveries and sounds banderas.gif
zephervack
Member
some russian guy has made a gt5 / 6 .vol decrypter.
the gt4 one allowed you to swap content with tourist trophy, so the top gear track and missing ferrari f1 cars could be put back in gt6, and if there's somebody out there that cares enough, maybe custom liveries and sounds banderas.gif
This is awesome, any sources or where to follow progress? and im guess you would need a CFW PS3 for any kind of modding?
After watching this, I think PD should outsource the track creator for GT7 to squareenix...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuDTimeOmNc&list=UUyffA0fMkIRYd01aENq69Yg#t=96
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuDTimeOmNc&list=UUyffA0fMkIRYd01aENq69Yg#t=96
thesuperfunk
Member
Whats the rough poly-model car Wax?
scorcher59
Member
I believe that's a LOD for that Tajima Pikes Peak racer
Valkyr Junkie
Member
GT is going to be a major sponsor for next year's Pikes Peak International Hill Climb. I guess it's only a matter of time before we get the course in GT.
Since Red Bull Blog announced it for GT5 back in December 2010, we may presume it was delayed for some future game because - reasons.
http://www.redbull.sg/cs/Satellite/...1242941692222?refmod=ContentFeed&refmodpos=A3
I wonder if they delayed it because the track built from the ground-up for last gen hardware just didn't live up to their expectations. Bathurst is considerably smaller and it has the most frame rate problems out of all the tracks. Hopefully they completely redid the assets for PS4 if this is true.
Possible Isle of Man and Pikes Peak... GT7 can't come soon enough.
Possible Isle of Man and Pikes Peak... GT7 can't come soon enough.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Why am I not a filthy rich guy?
Now explain that.
In a time where something like that finally came to fruition and it's not only relegated to my wet dreams anymore, I want in! jeebus fucking cryiss I want in!
SolidSnakex
Member
SEMA award winner for this year
750hp
750hp