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Gran Turismo series sells 46 million worldwide
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Heh, nice pun in that last sentince. :lolYoboman said:
Yeah, GT3 had "next gen" shininess all over plus a nice bundle deal while PS2 demand was still exceeding supply... both definitely factors not going in GT4's favor. But frankly, I doubt GT4's sales exceeded anyone's expectations... it sold half what GT3 did. That sort of dropoff is never expected, and never good. I think something along the lines of GT2's drop from GT1 (GT2 facing similar obstacles) was more what everyone was anticipating... I think sales fully reflected GT4's critical reception, at least in America.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
ZombieSupaStar said:
fixed to be broken!
Katana_Strikes
Member
I really hope we get GTHD in Europe and considering SCEE brought Prologue our way, I think we just might!
Yoboman
Gold Member
It still came out the fifth best selling game of the generation though. I remember people here saying it wouldn't even match Halo 2. Clearly people under-estimate the series market success. Anyway, I hope for PS3's sake they can replicate GT3's success. They'd better get that hype train rolling though because even GT2000 had more hype at this pointjarrod said:
ImperialConquest said:Forza > Grand Tourismo
What do I care how many units it sells? It's not like we are all part of a profit sharing agreement or anything..
Give me the superior game and I'm good.
The superior game is GT4 + DFP. Fair enough, it'll cost you 150-200 more than Forza, but the difference is worth much more than that.
Er... it didn't match Halo 2, it sold a good 2 million less. It's also not the 5th best selling game this gen, it's not even the 5th best selling PS2 game even actually.Yoboman said:
GT4 did horribly in America, I don't think anyone was underestimating anything really. Europe's fine, Japan's sort of a non-issue but there's a serious problem for Gran Tuirismo in America.... PD needs to shake things up.
Yoboman
Gold Member
According to ioi's site it sold a good 1 million more. 2 and a half million is NOT "horrible" what are you smoking?jarrod said:
http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php
mashoutposse
Ante Up
I'm not sure how anyone into this kind of game could call GT4 "more of the same." The vehicle and track lineups were upgraded significantly. There are numerous cars and courses (the Nurb, anyone?) that simply make the game. Then there's the noticeably improved physics and force feedback wheel support... I'm not getting the complaints.
mashoutposse
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jarrod said:
Here's what hamstrung GT4...
1998/05/12 GRAN TURISMO (North America) 3,990
1999/12/23 GRAN TURISMO 2 (North America) 3,960
2001/07/10 GRAN TURISMO 3 A-spec (North America) 7,110
2005/02/22 GRAN TURISMO 4 (North America) 2,410
The hiatus was waaaaaay too long for the more casual North American market.
Sorry, I was going off GT4's initial shipment figures (6.5m)... seems to have moved another million or so in the interim. His H2 figures are low though, it was past 8m over a year ago iirc...Yoboman said:
And taken on it's own 2.5m is a great sales figure... but when your predecessor moving 7m+ is taken into account, that's an insane drop and definitely not a positive sign. It's actually almost proportional to the drop from SNES to N64, but still a little worse.
That was probably a factor too. Combine it with dropped promised features (online) and Forza causing a critical storm and you've got a recipe for disaster.mashoutposse said:
As an aside though, isn't 7m an awfully high figure for GT3? I thought I remembered NPD having it only around 5m or so?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
ELS-01X said:
Good thing that 46 million people disagree with you then.
mashoutposse
Ante Up
ELS-01X said:
After 46 million units in sales, I think it's pretty well established that many disagree completely with you and that the series will live even without your involvement...
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
ELS-01X said:
Well it's no Mario Kart.
GT5 better have online and engine swaps.
Animal
Banned
Everytime i get close to convincing myself to get a DFP, I tell myself that I have the real thing downstairs in the garage and the price of the wheel is several tanks of gaz.
mashoutposse: I still havn't forgotten your pics lol..im just so damn busy it keeps slipping my mind...i'll try to take some tonight when we drop her off for her boomerang install.
mashoutposse: I still havn't forgotten your pics lol..im just so damn busy it keeps slipping my mind...i'll try to take some tonight when we drop her off for her boomerang install.
mashoutposse
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LOL, thought you left me hanging with that one
And forget it bro, just get it over with and buy that DFP -- it adds soooooo much to the experience (not to mention that it's not GT4-exclusive, so you'll get lots of use out of it).
And forget it bro, just get it over with and buy that DFP -- it adds soooooo much to the experience (not to mention that it's not GT4-exclusive, so you'll get lots of use out of it).
mashoutposse said:
Most of the complaints are from people that hate sim racers (or drivers in this case) and are not car enthusists. Its ok if they hate it, its not for them.
oh and zaptruder there already was a GT4 online beta test in japan. I couldn't get in, so I have no idea how it went.
Animal i'd wait on the DFP at this point in time. Logitech made the g25(or something like this) that is higher quality, has a clutch pedal, and h-shift. I'd wait to see if that BCs to a DFP for gt4, and you'd have to GT5 wheel for when it's out.
yeah, GT for what it does is very good.Flo_Evans said:
polyphony(and my parents) gave me the best birthday present ever. launch day with a DFP. The playstation was also starting to decline around then, a lot of people knew that just a few big games were left and next gen was coming.mashoutposse said:
Goldrusher
Member
ImperialConquest said:
Fixed. :lol
LanceStern
Banned
I can't help but to believe these numbers are shipments.
The last NPD for US had GT3 at 3.8 million.... you mean to tell me that 3.3 million people in Canada bought it? Or tha tmany millions was from Walmart?
And it's REALLY a stretch to convince me that the games sold 5 million in Europe. I remember they tried to trick us EARRLY in it's Europe release when they said it sold 3 million in about a few weeks when it was really shipments.
Either way, good sales.
The last NPD for US had GT3 at 3.8 million.... you mean to tell me that 3.3 million people in Canada bought it? Or tha tmany millions was from Walmart?
And it's REALLY a stretch to convince me that the games sold 5 million in Europe. I remember they tried to trick us EARRLY in it's Europe release when they said it sold 3 million in about a few weeks when it was really shipments.
Either way, good sales.
Mr. Pointy
Member
After reading this thread, I'm kind of bummed that GT is pretty much the only truly huge franchise Sony have right now.
I honestly think it was pretty dumb of them to sell the Crash Bandicoot and Spyro rights to Universal. They could have been much bigger than they were on PS1.
I honestly think it was pretty dumb of them to sell the Crash Bandicoot and Spyro rights to Universal. They could have been much bigger than they were on PS1.
PjotrStroganov
Member
ImperialConquest said:
Ehm the physics in GT4 certainly aren't flawless but Forza has some issues that kills the game instantly for many. Physics in Forza are anything but good. Especially the stupid tire physics that let you drift even an LMP car in corners.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Mr. Pointy said:
Yeah GOW, R&C, MLB, Jak & Daxter, etc. are dead right? Sony has plenty of franchises. What are you talking about?
Mr. Pointy
Member
None of Sony's PS2-era franchises exploded in popularity like Crash and GT did on the PS1.mckmas8808 said:
The Crash Bandicoot franchise was the biggest thing Sony had back in the PS1 days. The combined sales of CB1, 2, 3, Kart and Bash are something near 30 million. The main games each sold ~7 million worldwide.
The multiplatform Universal games haven't sold near as much. The Wrath of Cortex on PS2 was pretty big, but it and subsequent games never Crash was synonymous with Sony back in the PS1 era and making the franchise multiplatform diluted its appeal.
Sony should have fought to keep the franchise for themselves. Even if Naughty Dog weren't going to make anymore PS2 Crash games, the PS2 fanbase would have continued to buy them in much larger numbers than they are now.
I've changed my mind about Spyro.
ichigo kurosaki
Member
Haunted_One said:
They can't be too accurate. EA's FIFA moves really big numbers around Europe and is nowhere to be seen in that list. And we're talking about how many, 13 yearly incarnations plus special editions for almost all the formats available? And Winning Eleven/Pro Evolution Soccer is way too low.
