Well they had to start the studio too, that was a notable investment I'm sure.
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Halo 4 Has Cost Microsoft More Money Than Any Title To Date
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Syphon Filter
Member
If you're looking for Halo 1-3 style then you aren't missing anything.
brandonh83
Banned
Interesting. I really didn't like Halo 3, ODST, or Reach all that much at all which makes me think I'm just not into Halo anymore, but I absolutely loved the first two games.
Mind telling everyone here how you know it isn't growing? Actually you keep saying stuff as if you have played the game already.
The game plays like a good Halo should. MP feels like Halo 2 which is good because the pace and mechanics in H2 really were that great.
Honestly, I don't like the direction the multiplayer is taking. That encompasses a variety of things, from customizable load outs based on progression rewards, to ordnance that adds an ann extra layer of randomness and uncertainty to the gameplay, but mostly the player progression stuff connected to stuff that augments gameplay. It just all gets further away from the equal footing ethos that kept Halo unique in a world with increasing emphasis on customization that goes beyond the aesthetic.
But I'll still play it. I thought I was going to play Reach for years after it came out and that clearly didn't happen. With every other Halo game I played its multiplayer right up until the next one came out. But that just wasn't the case. So in a few ways I'm kind of excited that maybe some of this stuff will refreshen and maybe even be better than what has been in the past. Campaign is still my main focus and that definitely is still what's most interesting, but I've stopped trying to convince myself the multiplayer is going to be horrible and just going to wait until its in my hands to see. None of the MP videos really do anything for me and don't mean much until its actually in my hands.
But I'll still play it. I thought I was going to play Reach for years after it came out and that clearly didn't happen. With every other Halo game I played its multiplayer right up until the next one came out. But that just wasn't the case. So in a few ways I'm kind of excited that maybe some of this stuff will refreshen and maybe even be better than what has been in the past. Campaign is still my main focus and that definitely is still what's most interesting, but I've stopped trying to convince myself the multiplayer is going to be horrible and just going to wait until its in my hands to see. None of the MP videos really do anything for me and don't mean much until its actually in my hands.
Infinite Justice
Member
Not suprising tbh
Plus with a new studio made from scratch dealing with it.
Plus with a new studio made from scratch dealing with it.
What five versions? The 7.5M from last year doesn't include Prologue if that's what you mean.
It isn't what I mean, I'm forever seeing new editions, perhaps 5 is overexaggerating but I swear it's more than two. (GT Academy, XL edition ect)
I would say that's only one, as one is US and one is Europe. But Halo 4 will outsell it of course.
victreeb3l
Member
i hope they make a shit load of money in this game. im doing my part buying it
my gut tells me this game is going to be incredible, campaign and multiplayer wise
my gut tells me this game is going to be incredible, campaign and multiplayer wise
Windom Earle
Member
I fail to see the big step up from Reach. Sure it has nicer cutscenes, but the gameplay? Nah.
Waiting to be proven wrong when I have the game in my hands. I agree that effects are not everything, but I am definitely missing some of the nicer ones.
Can I add two things? One, Infininty Slayer aside, Ordance Drops will be rolled back. An example is Team Slayer Pro which is sans personal ordnance, uses fixed loadouts where you'd choose from either a DMR, BR, or AR, no radar and increased movement speed. It is basically a better Halo: Reach.
And on progression, yes you need to unlock weapons but playlists will have loadouts to choose from with weapons suitable for the map/gametype.
You're the second person on this site who has described the MP as feeling like H2. Unfortunately i never got to play MP in that game since i did not have live ( or high speed internet) at the time. I pretty much lived in H3 MP though and after l watching a lot of slayer matches in 4( especially the big team slayer match on Vortex) it gave me the familiar feeling of Halo 3 multi.
Solace is so much like a Zelda track.
Metalmurphy
Member
Those numbers are 1 year old. Just saying. And it was 2 versions, no different then a GOTY edition, not that it matters as those second versions aren't included in those numbers.
I looked on the wiki page, looks like a lot more than two 0_o, and the last shipments were very low, not exactly like hardwear where it's going to keep selling half a mill every Q is it ...
Metalmurphy
Member
Academy Edition = XL Edition, only in different regions. What other versions are there?
And like I said, those 7,4 Sales are from dec 2011. Before those 2 editions even released. The game also charted some times before those re-releases. The game will be ~9-10M when all is said and done.
GT5 is the 8th best selling game in Europe this year (Jan-Sep)
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/121025/img/08l.jpg
That doesn't tell us what it's sold, or how much of that is from previous stock. And I remember it shipping pretty low numbers between Poly updating their figures.
AltogetherAndrews
Member
edit: wrong thread
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I hope Halo 5 and 6 get this kind of treatment. This is just the first game in the new trilogy so I imagine 5 and 6 are going to get an even bigger treatment than 4. I hope that 6 also doesn't have a disappoint end like Mass Effect.
In Team Slayer Pro, how do weapon spawns work? If I understand correctly, there are initial weapon spawns at the beginning of the match, but after that everything is random. Does it work like that in objective games too?
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Agreed. ODST was amazing, I had a blast with that game. That said, I think a lot of people liked it, they just weren't happy with the price.
I bet they will... They may not be as expensive since the studio is now set up and Im sure that factored into the price, but I expect big things from them in the future.
Halo: ODST > Halo: Reach
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
I would say Reach was better than ODST by quite a bit. Although I absolutly loved ODST, I really hope we get a sequel next gen.
I agree. ODST was great in concept, but it was far too repetitive in that the hub world was the sort of thing where once you've seen 10% of it, you've seen all of it. I guess that's to be expected though from a budget release.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Eh. Conceptually, yes. ODST was a lot more original and had a very interesting style of story progression.. But Reach was a lot more new when it came to sandbox elements, engine and setting. Plus it had the benefit of a full production cycle. That said, some parts of ODST vastly outdo reach, particularly the atmosphere of the game.
Eh, I loved the HUB world.. I found it very easy but fun to navigate, and if I wanted to I could really get lost in it. There were a lot of cool encounters to it, and I liked that a lot of them could be avoided. I would have killed to see ODST get a full production budget and schedule. Still, I would be happy for a second ODST, even if it were set during the battle for Reach in the cities as they fell or something.
Femmeworth
Banned
I wonder if that takes into account the cost of setting up 343 Industries.
Don't get me wrong, on my first play through I thought it was great. It was when I re-visited the game that I found it nearly unplayable. Maybe if the hub world didn't feature respawning enemies, instead of roaming around fighting random encounters ad nauseum. Actually that would have been kind of cool, if the hub world had a pre-set number of enemies and reinforcements, and you could eventually re-take the city. Encounters could be tooled as specific tactical situations rather than obstacles impeding your progress.
What's with all the comparison with GT5? I guess no discussion is ever complete without bringing in that needless debate.
Anyway, any idea how much money was spent on Marketing and Making the game separately for the second most expensive Halo? Was it Reach (in terms of dev cost) and Halo 3 (overall)?
Anyway, any idea how much money was spent on Marketing and Making the game separately for the second most expensive Halo? Was it Reach (in terms of dev cost) and Halo 3 (overall)?
OldJadedGamer
Banned
It always comes up in Halo threads for some reason but I have no clue what a racing game in decline that only sells well in the PAL region has to with a FPS.
But yet... each new Halo thread....
ODST is the worst Halo, and Reach is the best. Terrible post, you should receive forty lashes.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
HALO 3 is the best HALO.
Weirdly enough I am thinking of purchasing ODST in the coming weeks. As a person who has Halo 3 and Reach but never played them, I wish to delve into the mythos of Halo franchise. Are you telling me to skip it altogether?
Femmeworth
Banned
ODST is worth a play, rent it if you can.
No, it's still excellent, just the least excellent. The missions feel a little like a 'best of the b-sides' type experience for me.
Play through Halo 3. Halo Reach is much more optional in terms of story, though I did enjoy Reach's campaign overall more. Halo 3 did have higher highs (and lower lows).
RedAssedApe
Banned
Rickenslacker
Banned
Well those words can be combined to say something true, but not in that order. Reach is definitely the worst overall Bungie made Halo game.
ODST is one of the best in terms of its single player package. Only bested by CE in my eyes.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
I couldn't stand the controls of ODST.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Campaign wise:
Halo 3>ODST>Halo>Reach>Halo 2
Halo 3>ODST>Halo>Reach>Halo 2
Haven't been following the discussion but I'm guessing GT5 was brought up due to it being another big budget exclusive title ($80 million iirc).
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
HALO 3 had the best encounters of any HALO. So many memorable moments and combat situations that could play out so differently every time thanks to the amazing scale and A.I. Things just went bonkers sometimes when you've got scarabs and choppers and tanks on the ground in these massive, a.i-controlled firefights.
Reach didn't even begin to compare.
Reach didn't even begin to compare.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Seriously, I replayed Halo 3 levels countless times, the sandbox reached its pinnacle in that game.
Thanks. One question pertaining to level design. Let me preface it by saying that I couldn't play Halo past the first level because continuous dark corridors (grey and otherwise) in which gamplays are set induced headache and nausea. As such, is the level design of ODST similar in that regard?