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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm

Ramirez

Member
I just still don't agree with that though. It was always also an escort mission. And an escort mission in Halo 4 isn't generally going to get very far if once you pick up the flag everyone at the base knows exactly where you are. That only works if your entire team is working with and assisting you, but that was already the case. It's baffling. Also their logic for the change in the ViDoc is hilarious.

It wasn't always an escort mission, Dani was always pretty good at getting it out without being near us.

But here's the thing, while he was doing that, we were usually spawn killing in their base in 99% of the games. All of the objective modes needed a shake up for the average player, the barren playlist was evidence of that. NOW, whether or not any of these changes in CTF/Oddball/Whatever do anything to alleviate population numbers remains to be seen!
 

Satchel

Banned
Please explain how taking away those options in custom games is defendable.

I agree with your general sentiment, but having only a single gametype for 8v8 I think is inexcusable. Also the CTF changes don't seem to relate at all to consolidating playlists, since there's still only (apparently) one CTF playlist.

Not sure man. Maybe 343 are trying not to further fracture an already dwindling community?

These changes appear to be in place to broaden the demographic.

Maybe once they get a certain number of players consistently on board, they'll make changes to appease the fanatics?
 

kylej

Banned
Booties makes high 6 figures a year. He went to an ivy league. Booties helped put me through college show some respect please.
 

MrDaravon

Member
Not sure man. Maybe 343 are trying not to further fracture an already dwindling community?

These changes appear to be in place to broaden the demographic.

Maybe once they get a certain number of players consistently on board, they'll make changes to appease the fanatics?

Again I agree with your sentiment, but I'm still not getting how that relates to my examples:

-Having only ONE 8v8 playlist containing a SINGLE gametype isn't consolidation, that's stupid.
-A CTF gameplay change when CTF is already only a single playlist as-is, so any changes to the gametype wouldn't have any bearing on that.

In principle I'm completely on-board for minimizing and streamlining playlists though.

Are you thinking this is what I'm getting at? Because it's not.

No, that wasn't directed at you sorry. Just a commentary on some people in the thread, my apologies.
 

Ramirez

Member
I also purchased the season pass today while preordering 4 & AC3. First time I've ever purchased a Halo map pack...VCR Head inc.
 
Lol

I will because they have stock and companies have to please stock holders since its pretty heavily based on equity. I'll stop car in in 30 years when they start paying dividends.

Let me be critical. Stop flying in every time theres criticism of your favorite game. I hate to call you a fan boy...so I won't say you are a fan boy.

I have 3 times as many posts as you on this particular OT. Let me be critical, you're not being critical; you're here right now feeding off of negativity in this thread, and you need to leave.
 

Booties

Banned
Being critical is not the same attacking the game/developers/other people.

Be critical about changes, that's fine but don't come on here and try to degrade the work 343 has done. How would like if I was in your place of employment talking mad shit about how terrible this change is and how no one likes it?

The protective veil of the internet wins here again because when you go after the developers what do you face? A ban? A person like me trying to be moral and respect the developers? This is these people's jobs. They don't just do this for our entertainment, this is how they support themselves. If there's an aspect about the game you don't like, put a logical argument for why it's a bad idea but don't attack 343 saying they are some incompetent group.

All I'm trying to say is be civil. Be critical but not degrading. It makes debates and conversations much more enjoyable on here because people aren't attacking each others ideas.

You're right. I totally wasn't thinking about the dev's feelings.

Speaking of veils, that's all a vidoc is. Get me hyped about one useless feature to distract me from the giant hole two feet away. Good moral compass. I wonder what the investors think.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
You're right. I totally wasn't thinking about the dev's feelings.

Speaking of veils, that's all a vidoc is. Get me hyped about one useless feature to distract me from the giant hole two feet away. Good moral compass. I wonder what the investors think.

$350-400 mil opening day, i think they're pumped
 

orznge

Banned
You're right. I totally wasn't thinking about the dev's feelings.

Speaking of veils, that's all a vidoc is. Get me hyped about one useless feature to distract me from the giant hole two feet away. Good moral compass. I wonder what the investors think.

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Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
There's also no need for you to rush in and defend the game at every negative comment thrown against it.

I don't. I never "run in" and throw blind faith. If you notice I generally approach from a neutral position until I get a feel for the subject. From seeing and playing Halo 4 I know know the things I like and dislike.

I sure as hell don't start calling people out with dumb insults for disagreeing with me.
 

Booties

Banned
I have 3 times as many posts as you on this particular OT. Let me be critical, you're not being critical; you're here right now feeding off of negativity in this thread, and you need to leave.
I was critical. Stop making it worse than it is by being too serious on the internet. Its not good for your health.
 

Tunavi

Banned
I have 3 times as many posts as you on this particular OT.
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Ramirez

Member
No, that wasn't directed at you sorry. Just a commentary on some people in the thread, my apologies.

Ah, I was just wondering. I never want to be seen as someone who thinks people are stupid for wanting more for their experience in a game. Obsessing over preorder items IS dumb however Stalker.

So those two helmets don't come with the LE right?

Right.

I went with the standard edition, don't really like supporting LEs that aren't that great...gotta have dem maps though!
 

orznge

Banned
It was a response to him saying that I pop in on this thread to defend it, when in reality I'm on here all the time, making critiques, having fun, having Halo 4 discussion. That's all I was saying.

Maybe people should have more fun and make less critiques. Might make this thread a better place.
 
I have no problem with the waypoint on the flag carrier because most of the time the other team normally know where you are. yeah there are those moments when you can do it undetected but they are rare.
 

Ramirez

Member
I don't. I never "run in" and throw blind faith. If you notice I generally approach from a neutral position until I get a feel for the subject. From seeing and playing Halo 4 I know know the things I like and dislike.

I sure as hell don't start calling people out with dumb insults for disagreeing with me.

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Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State

Show me an example of me just blindly saying I like a feature.

Seriously.

If I see something new, I check it out and then proceed to make my opinion about said feature. If I like it, I defend my position. I never just say "YEAH THAT'S AWESOME AND NO ONE CAN HATE IT" 10 seconds after we see something.

Christ.

I'd rather be optimistic than hate everything. I don't see how that schtick is not JUST as bad.
 

kylej

Banned
Booties is kind of a politician. Booties helped Joe Biden in some of his senatorial campaigns... show a little respect.
 

MrDaravon

Member
This place is hilarious sometimes. It's like high school.

HaloGAF is full of mostly cool people, but it's (relatively) closed off community so there's always there's crazy swings between just general bullshit and then extreme drama and infighting. It generally ends with hugs though, so hey.

I have no problem with the waypoint on the flag carrier because most of the time the other team normally know where you are. yeah there are those moments when you can do it undetected but they are rare.

Having played a shitload of CTF as my main gametype I completely disagree.

Thinking about it I would maybe be okay with the marker appearing, but not for like 10 seconds to give you some sort of chance of a getaway.
 

Ramirez

Member
I hope you're not just now realizing this

Life is like high school, news at 11.

Having played a shitload of CTF as my main gametype I completely disagree.

Thinking about it I would maybe be okay with the marker appearing, but not for like 10 seconds to give you some sort of chance of a getaway.

Perhaps in his level it's true, I know I could count the number of times a team has successfully sneaked out a flag back on my team in MM on one hand...
 

feel

Member
I'm one of the top 10 posters in this thread, wtf happened?? I hadn't been cracking the top 20 in years..

So we can't disable sprint?

Erm... WTF?
Sprint in the game disappoints me greatly, but the entire experience needs to be consistent. There needs to be just one version of Halo 4's base gameplay, not 15 of them like in a certain other Halo game.
 
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