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Is Dungeon Defenders playable on a Mac?

I haven't been following the Mac version. See above. ^

Edit: Oh, Bregmann Roche spoke up first.

It's his if he wants it, yours if he doesn't.

 

[kylej]

Because, like Devo said about the entire long-mid range beating the AR, if an entire team starts with BRs, the "scrubs", as you call them, will be demolished and be unhappy, saying it's not the arcadey game, Halo, they wanted to buy.

Though of course this skill disparity between teams wouldn't exist if the matchmaking system wasn't a giant broken piece of shit.

Why can't it just be BR/AR starts?

We've been asking this for more than half a decade now. Who knows. Too much sense I guess.

 

[Devolution]

Because, like Devo said about the entire long-mid range beating the AR, if an entire team starts with BRs, the "scrubs", as you call them, will be demolished and be unhappy, saying it's not the arcadey game, Halo, they wanted to buy.

Ye're all too cut and dry, If Halo was being aimed at a smaller audience sure, but they kind of have to/choose to cater to all sides as best they can.

Every game they give into our side anyway and more playlists get added or tweaked to have the BR/DMR as the main weapon. It's easy to dumb a game down from a competitive start, it's near impossible to do the reverse. MLG tried with Reach but even long time competitive players could see big ass problems.

 

[KidA Seven]

Because, like Devo said about the entire long-mid range beating the AR, if an entire team starts with BRs, the "scrubs", as you call them, will be demolished and be unhappy, saying it's not the arcadey game, Halo, they wanted to buy.

Ye're all too cut and dry, If Halo was being aimed at a smaller audience sure, but they kind of have to/choose to cater to all sides as best they can.

But what if true skill worked?

Then they can use ARs because they will be matched with other "scrubs" that can't aim the BR.

 

[Devolution]

Bring Team Training back for all of the people who want to play with guests who spam ARs everywhere. It kept Halo 2 competitive. And from what I recall h2 didn't go beyond 10 playlists did it?

 

[Zeouterlimits]

Though of course this skill disparity between teams wouldn't exist if the matchmaking system wasn't a giant broken piece of shit.

I was actually going to mention in my post that it matchmaking/truskill was the one thing they absolutely need to fix this time, but I'm glad I didn't have to.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Idiots will switch to AR. But yes I'd rather have that than just AR.

There are circumstances where the AR is preferable. Spawning with both would be ideal.

 

[Devolution]

There are circumstances where the AR is preferable. Spawning with both would be ideal.

True but if my team mates are dumb they won't know the diff.

 

[GhaleonEB]

True but if my team mates are dumb they won't know the diff.

That's a matchmaking problem.

I like spawning with a good short range weapon and a good long range one. Halo 3's AR gets shat upon a lot here, but knowing when to use it instead of a BR won me many a battle. I'll always prefer to spawn with to complimentary weapons rather than one all-dominating one.

 

[Homeboyd]

I want my AR to have 4 attachable scopes, grenade launcher attachment, headshot capable (w/ the right scope), multiple magazines w/ regular ammo and explosive ammo and various skins (FLAMEZ PLZ) I can use to customize my weapon to fit my super awesome personality. Can I also etch my initials in the side of the weapon?

 

[bobs...onGaf]

If it makes feel any better, I'm firing it right now. Sound good man.

Pfft, prove it.


Please prove it.




Please.

There are circumstances where the AR is preferable. Spawning with both would be ideal.

AR BR starts would be better than just AR starts for sure.

 

[Hitmonchan107]

There are circumstances where the AR is preferable. Spawning with both would be ideal.

I've found myself switching to the AR in close-range combat. I can't for the life of me land the killing headshot when my opponent is 20 feet away or closer.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

I haven't been following the Mac version. See above. ^



It's his if he wants it, yours if he doesn't.

Give it to senador, he's good people. The short term is looking like limited gaming time for me.

 

[blamite]

Why are we assuming the BR will have no spread? The bulletin said no bloom, not no spread. I'll be really really surprised if spread is gone, considering the BR in the ViDoc had a pretty big reticle, and removing spread would just turn it into a laser pointer like the DMR.

 

[Fracas]

I want my AR to have 4 attachable scopes, grenade launcher attachment, headshot capable (w/ the right scope), multiple magazines w/ regular ammo and explosive ammo and various skins (FLAMEZ PLZ) I can use to customize my weapon to fit my super awesome personality. Can I also etch my initials in the side of the weapon?

What about underslung shotguns/flamethrowers/bayonets? I wantz to deal mah destruction in every way possible.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Pfft, prove it.


Please prove it.




Please.

Sounds like podcast material to me.

I've found myself switching to the AR in close-range combat. I can't for the life of me land the killing headshot when my opponent is 20 feet away or closer.

This is a good use for the AR.

I'm the same. I get frustrated having two precision weapons as my spawning options.

 

[Homeboyd]

What about underslung shotguns/flamethrowers/bayonets? I wantz to deal mah destruction in every way possible.

1 user thanked monsterfracas for this useful post

Edit: Since you seem to love to troll us David, take this.

 

[kylej]

I've found myself switching to the AR in close-range combat. I can't for the life of me land the killing headshot when my opponent is 20 feet away or closer.

Of course, everyone prefers using a close range weapon at close range. Imagine if you had a close range weapon for close range combat, and a long range weapon for long range combat every time you spawned.

Awful lot of silence from the 343 boys on talks of perks/armor abilities/whatever and AR starts.

 

[Plywood]

The lamest thing they did for the flamethrower was make it a heavy weapon.

 

[HigherLevel]

Of course, everyone prefers using a close range weapon at close range. Imagine if you had a close range weapon for close range combat, and a long range weapon for long range combat every time you spawned.

Awful lot of silence from the 343 boys on talks of perks/armor abilities/whatever and AR starts.

Yeah not liking this. I know Frankie said not to worry but I still gotta see it for myself.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Whats the worst that would happen. Fyrewulff would stop playing Halo possibly become suicidal, and thousands more would go out and buy it seconds upon hearing the news... Makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Overdoziz]

It's interesting to see that HBO has pretty much the opposite reaction to the Bulletin. The normal people here complain about the fact that in one sentence BSAngel mentioned not spawning with a BR and on HBO people complain about how the Bulletin is so BR-centric and are afraid that their 'hold-trigger-and-win' weapon will become obsolete.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

Awful lot of silence from the 343 boys on talks of perks/armor abilities/whatever and AR starts.

Probably because some magazine has an exclusive deal to reveal that info or maybe they just like watching us squirm.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

Seeing David's tweet made me grimace slightly, I prefer Halo 3's BR to Halo 2's.

Awful lot of silence from the 343 boys on talks of perks/armor abilities/whatever and AR starts.

Try not to overly read into it. They've chosen not to give us a weapon sound effect.

possibly become suicidal

Why'd you have to be like that?

 

[HigherLevel]

Probably because some magazine has an exclusive deal to reveal that info or maybe they just like watching us squirm.

I'm hoping for the next GI cover story.

 

[daedalius]

Seeing David's tweet made me grimace slightly, I prefer Halo 3's BR to Halo 2's.

Try not to overly read into it. They've chosen not to give us a weapon sound effect.

You really prefer getting refunded bullets?

 

[Devolution]

It's interesting to see that HBO has pretty much the opposite reaction to the Bulletin. The normal people here complain about the fact that in one sentence BSAngel mentioned not spawning with a BR and on HBO people complain about how the Bulletin is so BR-centric and are afraid that their 'hold-trigger-and-win' weapon will become obsolete.

It won't become obsolete if those people get shunted into proper playlists with each other. Just make a playlist called AR Heroes. Problem solved.

 

[Hitmonchan107]

Would anyone like to play Reach? I need to unwind.

 

[Nutter]

Probably because some magazine has an exclusive deal to reveal that info or maybe they just like watching us squirm.

.

 

[bobs...onGaf]

It's interesting to see that HBO has pretty much the opposite reaction to the Bulletin. The normal people here complain about the fact that in one sentence BSAngel mentioned not spawning with a BR and on HBO people complain about how the Bulletin is so BR-centric and are afraid that their 'hold-trigger-and-win' weapon will become obsolete.

Different crowd. I dont want to call anyone out, but there seems to be a fair bit of competitive hate over there, a recent post is about how the game is going to cater for the MLG crowd have like 6 weapons, no automatics and be no fun. Thats pretty laughable, Halo 4 is certainly going to cater for the casuals.

I have seen an entire forum full of people (not HBO) who hate any form of competitive Halo and thing anyone who uses precision weapons is a tryhard who doesnt care about fun. I do hate that belief. I remember having a pretty stupid argument with a forum full of people clamoring for 100% AR starts. Incredible how 'elitist' some people are about the people they call elitist lol. I guess there was maybe 10 people max, but all the same, it was a skewed outlook for so many to have. I dont even mean about liking AR starts, I mean more about how they viewed anyone who did ever enjoy a more competitive side to the game.

 

[senador]

Give it to senador, he's good people. The short term is looking like limited gaming time for me.

Duuuude. Thanks! I'll hold onto it for a bit in case you change your mind.

 

[Homeboyd]

 

[CyReN]

Why do the map towards the bottom seem gray?

Plus it's 80 maps, with Foundy, ForgeWorld, Timberland.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

It won't become obsolete if those people get shunted into proper playlists with each other. Just make a playlist called AR Heroes. Problem solved.

Make sure to give it the right font.

You really prefer getting refunded bullets?

I don't know. Maybe it was the magnetism, visual look and sound?
I just do.

 

[Overdoziz]

Different crowd. I dont want to call anyone out, but there seems to be a fair bit of competitive hate over there, a recent thread is all about how the game is going to cater for the MLG crowd have like 6 weapons, no automatics and be no fun. Thats pretty laughable, Halo 4 is certainly going to cater for the casuals.

I have seen entire forums full of people (not HBO) who hate any form of competitive Halo and thing anyone who uses precision weapons is a tryhard who doesnt care about fun. I do hate that belief. I remember having a pretty stupid argument with a forum full of people clamoring for 100% AR starts. Incredible how 'elitist' some people are about the people they call elitist lol.

Never let pro gamers design your game, or let their opinions be the basis of a game's design. You only need to look at the MLG playlist to see how Halo would be if they had their way. "Only six weapons, none of which are automatics?! Yay! Screw fun! Exalt skill and competition!" *facepalm*

smh

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Where are all the glorious Forge maps?

 

[Stinkles]

Why do the map towards the bottom seem gray?

Bees.

 

[Homeboyd]

Why do the map towards the bottom seem gray?

Plus it's 79 maps, with Foundy and ForgeWorld.

Grey is the new blue!

Edit: I didn't make it! Also, the guy who made it mentioned no FW, Foundry or PC maps.

 

[CyReN]

Bees.

Everytime I see this posted this plays in my head:

Someone tell me!

 

[Slightly Live]

Halo 3's BR allowed Valhalla's map design to shine, therefore on that basis alone, it's the best weapon ever.

 

[senador]

I have lots of thoughts about AR and BR for Halo 4 and in general. Its such a tricky thing to get right, regardless of how easy everyone here seems to think it is. Its not as simple as "just spawn with both". Both would have to be pretty balanced with each other and/or matchmaking really tight to ensure you play against the proper skill group. Neither are exactly easy to do. A skilled BR person will usually beat on an AR user, leaving AR user sad. To balance that you either make AR better or BR worse, which leaves BR user angry. Its not as simple as that though, and I believe they could actually balance both to be effective and liked, but its a fine line and would be quite tricky to do. There's also the matter of "adapt" but let's be real here, many people won't do that, and they shouldn't necessarily half to. They bought the game too and should be able to have fun too.

Which leads me back to matchmaking. Hopefully it works well enough and the 2 guns are balanced just enough that together they work out. I'd like matchmaking to still be fast, but to also better match skills. That's not exactly the easiest thing to do either. Hopefully they'll have focused playlists and game types so that it makes matchmaking more effective. I have hopes they'll pull this all off, but I also know its tricky.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

Duuuude. Thanks! I'll hold onto it for a bit in case you change your mind.

Will not change mind. Pretty busy for the next few weeks and, god help me, I will devote most of my gaming time to Halo-related pursuits. Lemme know how the Mac version is.

 

[daedalius]

I don't know. Maybe it was the magnetism, visual look and sound?
I just do.

I'd go so far as to say the H2 BR probably sounds better than the H3 BR.

However, the magenetism on the H2 BR was a bit too high.

I PMd you Fronk, you shouldn't ignore it like you most likely ignore the rest of neogaf promises were made...

 

[blamite]

Everytime I see this posted this plays in my head:

Someone tell me!

Beads.

 

[Karl2177]

Why do the map towards the bottom seem gray?

Plus it's 80 maps, with Foundy, ForgeWorld, Timberland.

There are 108 maps if you include all firefight and base multiplayer maps.

Beads.

They don't allow bees in here.

 

[Plywood]

Beads.

Blargh, was gonna post that.

 

[HigherLevel]

The biggest thing I notice on that picture is how the quality drops so much the farther down you go.

 

[CyReN]

Beads.

It's in my Netflix queue, will lol in 3-6 months about it.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

Everytime I see this posted this plays in my head:

Someone tell me!

I think he's trying to tell us that there is an ARG afoot, but we're all too damn stupid to figure it out.

 

[Hitmonchan107]

One game without teammates is enough Reach for one night. :^\

 

[CyReN]

Still need a team name for MLG Columbus, if anybody got anything good please tell me. So far it's Lemon Party..