WE DID IT GAF!
In all seriousness what a strange series of events. The ban was outrageous, then the 1 month ban was a kicker, now an ban removal but a slap on the wrist.
It's a good resolution for the OP, so that's good, what's not so good is the censorship that Ubisoft have decided to do, the game is a mature / 18+ game, there is no need for them to patch this nudity out.
Has this issue highlighted a problem with the share system and mature content within the PS4 then?, is Sony going to fix it?.
WatchDogs2: Enhanced Vagina Edition
I mean, what does a low resolution vagina really add to the game? If all it does is cause controversy like this, and we'd lose nothing by removing gratuitous nudity, then I don't see the problem.
Update:
I think we may have..won? I've got this support email backpeddling the bans but of course never admitting fault. Have Sony ever conceded a ban before? Also something must have hit a nerve because I never filed a support ticket but they're the ones contacting me.
I would also like to point out the suspensions were very real and I couldn't sign in to my account.
At least they say that the bans were incorrect, indirectly saying that they did the wrong thing. The first ban was probably within the rules, but the extended ban was strange. But thanks for the update, very good that you got the ban removed!Update:
I think we may have..won? I've got this support email backpeddling the bans but of course never admitting fault. Have Sony ever conceded a ban before? Also something must have hit a nerve because I never filed a support ticket but they're the ones contacting me.
I would also like to point out the suspensions were very real and I couldn't sign in to my account.
Um is a M rated game actually allowed to show a vagina? Even rated R and cable shows can only show the public hair, not like the whole thing in all its glory.
MATURE
Content is generally suitable for ages 17 and up. May contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language.
ADULTS ONLY
Content suitable only for adults ages 18 and up. May include prolonged scenes of intense violence, graphic sexual content and/or gambling with real currency.
It is in Europe (or in Portugal at the very least). M = 18+ = Adults (by law 18 year olds are adults in every sense of the word). Ergo, everything is legit. Not even sure there is a rating above that here, tbh.
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Oh, nevermind. The ESRB site says M = 17+, which is definitely different (from a legal standpoint). AO is the 18+ one. In which case.....eh....nudity may or may not be legit.
I would reply back and say "that almost sounds like an apology, but it appears to be missing some key points"
Then I would point out that the media storm created by this could have been avoided by better QA/QC/Policies and customer service.
Also I would point out sex is legal (and viewing a nude body is not even that) amongst consenting adults below the age rating for this game, shooting people is not for any age, then ask why one is a bannable offence and one is not.
I see some people in here who are angry about the censorship but is this instance of nudity really the hill to die on? It's so insignificant and meaningless. I'd rather fight for the release of actual AO games and pornographic games on consoles where this sort of nudity would actually make sense.
It's not just nudity it's the opening and everything. Again if we look at TV I'm pretty sure there's never been an instance where that could be shown, but breasts, buttocks, and the front of the pubic area have been.
Saw your edit. Yup graphic nudity versus just nudity is a good way to distinguish. There are degrees.
This OP is a snatch snitch. By the time I get Watch Dogs there aren't going to be any more vaginas. Thanks!
Update:
I think we may have..won? I've got this support email backpeddling the bans but of course never admitting fault. Have Sony ever conceded a ban before? Also something must have hit a nerve because I never filed a support ticket but they're the ones contacting me.
I would also like to point out the suspensions were very real and I couldn't sign in to my account.
I see some people in here who are angry about the censorship but is this instance of nudity really the hill to die on? It's so insignificant and meaningless. I'd rather fight for the release of actual AO games and pornographic games on consoles where this sort of nudity would actually make sense.
That´s insane, why would they even model that in the game? They fucked up, Sony fucked up, OP did nothing wrong. Classic example of shooting the messenger
I would reply back and say "that almost sounds like an apology, but it appears to be missing some key points"
Then I would point out that the media storm created by this could have been avoided by better QA/QC/Policies and customer service.
Also I would point out sex is legal (and viewing a nude body is not even that) amongst consenting adults below the age rating for this game, shooting people is not for any age, then ask why one is a bannable offence and one is not.
I scarcely see what is wrong with it being in the game as long as it was properly vetted by a ratings board.
What is wrong with some genitalia (male or female) in a game where you can just shoot random civilians on the street?
Well put.
I feel the same. The way people divide how they perceive violence vs nudity is fucking hypocritical.
So Ubi patches away the vulva and lets the male genitalia stay? are they less scandalous?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ll-frontal-nudity-can-get-you-banned-from-psn
I would reply back and say "that almost sounds like an apology, but it appears to be missing some key points"
Then I would point out that the media storm created by this could have been avoided by better QA/QC/Policies and customer service.
Also I would point out sex is legal (and viewing a nude body is not even that) amongst consenting adults below the age rating for this game, shooting people is not for any age, then ask why one is a bannable offence and one is not.
"Do not share anything that is vulgar."
I would reply to them and say
"Do not approve anything in games on your system that you find vulgar then".
You made into the german news: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/mel...mit-Update-zu-detaillierte-Vulva-3486547.html (NSFW)
What I want to know is why there is a hole cut out of the panties, that's such a bizarre thing to have been textured, is it not?
The hole serves a practical purposeWhat I want to know is why there is a hole cut out of the panties, that's such a bizarre thing to have been textured, is it not?
Have you seriously never heard of crotchless underwear before? It's a perfectly valid item in the wardrobe of any streetwalker.
Are you saying video games can't be real life simulators??? 🤔It's a video game not a real life simulator.
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Have you seriously never heard of crotchless underwear before? It's a perfectly valid item in the wardrobe of any streetwalker.
Agreed. It just reinforces the notion that videogames are kid's toys, regardless of their rating.I don't like knee jerk, retro active censorship that panders to the tabloid notion that "games are evil", the developer felt it was appropriate to be in the game from the get go, then it shouldn't be removed.
I would imagine the developer will go with the line that it was a mistake, and shouldn't have been in their in the first place though.