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[Demoncarnotaur]

Via Collider

Koepp said he’s hard at work on writing the script for Indiana Jones 5, but one big question that loomed over the film was whether Lucas would be involved. The way the franchise worked in that past was that Lucas would come up with the idea for the movie and Spielberg would execute it. When Indy 5 was announced, Lucas’ name was nowhere to be found. Spielberg subsequently said Lucas would serve as an executive producer on the film, but in speaking with Koepp, the screenwriter revealed that Lucas is not involved in the story of Indiana Jones 5:

“He’s not, to my knowledge. I’ve had no contact with him.”

He went on to talk about some of the lessons he took away from fan reactions to Crystal Skull, and highlighted the importance of finding the right McGuffin. They're hopeful to begin filming next October, though it sounds like it's hardly a locked thing.

 

[Squalor]

This is great news.

 

[thecouncil]

This is terrible news.

 

[Litan]

I better not see anybody disrespecting Lucas in this thread.

 

[Fat4all]

don't let him on set, either

 

[Count Dookkake]

So it'll be a Raiders remake.

Yawn.

 

[Xion385]

This is great news.

This is terrible news.

 

[Squalor]

don't let him on set, either

And nowhere near the editing room.

 

[Nappuccino]

While we're at it, lets keep David Koepp from getting involved, too.

 

[Squalor]

While we're at it, lets keep David Koepp from getting involved, too.

Really, though, the best idea is to not make the movie at all.

 

[KeyBladerXIII]

This is great news.

This is terrible news.

As a fan of Lucas and a hater of Crystal Skull, I'll just settle on, "this is news."

 

[Fat4all]

Really, though, the best idea is to not make the movie at all.

nah, not an option

gotta do it

gotta be done

have to

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

That's the good news. The bad news is that David Koepp is involved with the story.

 

[btrboyev]

Crystal skull gets too much hate. I didn't find anything wrong with the story. Spielberg skimped out on shooting in real locations which I think hurt the movie way more.

 

[The Omega Man]

Let Lucas in, He can't sink the plot lower than the last one, I mean how much shittier can he do? What if he strikes gold with this one?

 

[Sanjuro]

As a fan of Lucas and a hater of Crystal Skull, I'll just settle on, "this is news."

I don't even hate the film and this is my opinion.

Maybe we can get one of those hack frauds in Joss Whedon or JJ Abrams.

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

Crystal skull gets too much hate. I didn't find anything wrong with the story. Spielberg skimped out on shooting in real locations which I think hurt the movie way more.

 

[Squalor]

Crystal skull gets too much hate. I didn't find anything wrong with the story.

Raise your standards.

 

[-griffy-]

Koepp's a joker:

“I’m deeply immersed as we speak. All I can say is that there’s lots of aliens and Indy dies at the end (laughs). Lots of hiding in lead-lined refrigerators, aliens, and he dies. Should go over very well.”

 

[Sectorseven]

He gets final cut instead.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Crystal skull gets too much hate. I didn't find anything wrong with the story. Spielberg skimped out on shooting in real locations which I think hurt the movie way more.

The story was fine enough, but all the stunts and gags were far too over the top - and yeah, the very obvious use of CG/sets throughout just felt wrong. Crystal Skull is like a Indiana Jones cartoon world spinoff turned into a real, live action canonical film.. it's got some damn cool moments, yet it's padded with cringe worthy highlights throughout.

Don't get me wrong, the other Indiana Jones movies have ridiculous moments and set pieces, but they were all much more thought out, and adhered to a sense of reality much more efficiently. Also, they were often happy accidents of the heroes with a clever payoff, and not deliberate actions that make no sense in a real world.

 

[Squalor]

He gets final cut instead.

I already said we have to keep him away from the editing room, too.

 

[Sapiens]

I'm not kidding when I say this but grown men reacting to how the fridge raped their childhoods raped my childhood.

 

[Sanjuro]

Scaring birds to disable a fighter plane.

 

[Netherscourge]

 

[Pickman]

Koepp has fallen off in the last few years, tho. Long gone are the days of Carlito's Way and JP.

 

[Squalor]

Tom Cruise?

 

[Elandyll]

Koepp's a joker:

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

praise be

 

[120v]

after 20 years of hemming and hawing over the indy 4 script i figured, yeah, no way lucas would be involved if this one will have harrison

 

[Pagusas]

Scaring birds to disable a fighter plane.

makes a hell of a lot more sense then this scene.

 

[jstripes]

Vine-swinging cheesiness aside, it bothered me that they went from needing a slow and bulky tree-clearing machine to get through the dense rain forest to being able to effortlessly speed through it in their jeeps once the chase was on.

 

[Sanjuro]

makes a hell of a lot more sense then this scene.

No it doesn't. They are both examples of absurd reach of logic involving animals in a sticky situation.

 

[Jarmel]

So Spielberg finished filming for Ready Player One already? Damn.

 

[wesleyshark]

This is excellent news

 

[Beartruck]

Scaring birds to disable a fighter plane.

Except that moment is there for a very specific reason relevant to Indiana's dads character. Mutt is swinging on vines because fuck if I know.

 

[-griffy-]

No it doesn't. They are both examples of absurd reach of logic involving animals in a sticky situation.

Each scene's relative absurdity is different though. Scaring a bunch of seagulls on a beach to make them take flight makes sense. Needing to see a bunch of convenient CGI monkeys swinging on CGI vines in a CGI forest to get the idea to swing on vines is an entirely contrived solution to a problem that didn't even need a solution in the first place. Dude could have just started swinging on his own without needing to hang with a bunch of monkey bros.

 

[Gozer the Gozerian]

What will the do about Indy Jr.? Will they re-cast because of Shia's craziness?

 

[Pagusas]

No it doesn't. They are both examples of absurd reach of logic involving animals in a sticky situation.

Yes it does, the birds did nothing but act bird like. They didnt befriend Connrey, they didnt do anything out of the ordinary. They were just scared birds who flew up into the air. Conrey didnt learn some random new skill instantly, like how to swing from vines like a pro at the same speed (actually faster than..) a speeding jeep. all he did was scare birds, anyone in the world can do that.

Was the fact they brought down a plane a leap of logic? Sure, we know birds CAN bring down planes, but that was fantastical in its way of doing it, but it sitll at least made 1+1=2 logical sense and didnt have the birds giving a wink and a nod to Connrey like they were there as his spirits animals.

 

[liquidtmd]

He went on to talk about some of the lessons he took away from fan reactions to Crystal Skull, and highlighted the importance of finding the right McGuffin.

1) I hate the term Mcguffin, heritage and usefulness of the concept be damned. I don't know why.

2) Irrespective of the quality of the film at hand, the lessons you should always take from fan reactions is that you should never listen to fan reactions. You will go insane. The tail should not wag the dog.

 

[Sanjuro]

Except that moment is there for a very specific reason relevant to Indiana's dads character. Mutt is swinging on vines because fuck if I know.

You are missing the key point. It's Sean Connery. He is able to do this action and sell it with some charismatic dialog. The guy made a career on this goofy shit!

For the other example, you have Shia...

 

[120v]

What will the do about Indy Jr.? Will they re-cast because of Shia's craziness?

mutt died on his way back to his home planet

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

1) I hate the term Mcguffin, heritage and usefulness of the concept be damned. I don't know why.

2) Irrespective of the quality of the film at hand, the lessons you should always take from fan reactions is that you should never listen to fan reactions. You will go insane. The tail should not wag the dog.

In this case, I think pegging it on fan reactions is a kinder, more professional way of acknowledging the film had some dumb as shit moments that were not satisfying.

 

[Harlock]

Part of me wish he was.

 

[Sanjuro]

Yes it does, the birds did nothing but act bird like. They didnt befriend Conrey, they didnt do anything out of the ordinary. They were just scared birds who flew up into the air. Conrey didnt learn some random new skill instantly, like how to swing from vines like a pro at the same speed (actually faster than..) a speeding jeep. all he did was scare birds, anyone in the world can do that.

Was the fact they brought down a plane a leap of logic? Sure, we know birds CAN bring down planes, but that was fantastical in its way of doing it, but it sitll at least made 1+1=2 logical sense and didnt have the birds giving a wink and a nod to Conrey like they were their as his spirits animals.

I agree with you on the scene being broken from almost every aspect. The Connery scene is not, but it doesn't make it less absurd. It's just handed seamlessly. Crystals Skull's biggest issue is being able to ground itself while going through the endless callbacks.

I'm a Temple of Doom guy anyway, so I'm in the minority to begin with in regards to the series.

 

[Extra Sauce]

nevermind

 

[PhoncipleBone]

While we're at it, lets keep David Koepp from getting involved, too.

Took long enough for this to come up.

 

[Randomizer]

Probably another soft reboot, yawn...

 

[Netherscourge]

Tom Cruise?

 

[Sonic Boom]

I'm going to be really sad when Indiana Jones goes the same way as all these other endless sequel franchises.