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[Slamtastic]

100% of characters in the game have Ability moves that are some of their best most fun and interesting specials.

Nice job getting me to play Gear Enabled online mode, NRS.

 

[delSai]

Oh wow she actually creates armor.

 

[Slamtastic]

Turrets and Rocket Jumps

NRS truly is an American fighting game dev

 

[Alienous]

That gear vine attack makes so much more sense than the drill for Ivy.

 

[delSai]

Gotta be honest, after seeing that breakdown, i care alot more about Ivy. Not so much about her gear though.

 

[Khezu]

Well it's good his mom is watching him be super creepy about Catwoman on stream.

What a lovely birthday present.

 

[Gleethor]

Well it's good his mom is watching him be super creepy about Catwoman on stream.

What a lovely birthday present.

eh he's having fun.

also be nice, Steve posts here

 

[pock3tmonster]

That was a really solid arc, there's a nice little twist to Brainiac showing up.

Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps has been a surprisingly interesting book reaching highs that Venditti's Green Lantern never did. It's hard to believe it's from the same writer.

 

[Khezu]

eh he's having fun.

also be nice, Steve posts here

I don't mean it to be mean, it's just funny.

16 bit wouldn't be telling her to watch if she wasn't aware it's just a joke

 

[pock3tmonster]

From Taylor's FB while linking the Brainiac trailer:

Is the bonus Supergirl comic included with physical copies only, or digital copies as well?

 

[Alienous]

That 'jump-tree' pun.

That's the kind of pun I'd write in my diary about.

 

[Lokimaru]

Batmans into some stuff I guess.

Well he's technically a furry so...

 

[tim1138]

I want Nightwing back or him as Grayson. :/

I'd take Grayson over Red Hood any day of the week for the gun toting bat character.

Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps has been a surprisingly interesting book reaching highs that Venditti's Green Lantern never did. It's hard to believe it's from the same writer.

Seriously, it's like night and day. If you told me Johns was ghost writing it, I'd believe you.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

That 'jump-tree' pun.

That's the kind of pun I'd write in my diary about.

Amazing pun!

 

[Khezu]

Nightwing was so offensively bad in Injustice 1 he is banned from the series forever, no matter what incarnation.

 

[Marvel]

Batmans into some stuff I guess.

Oh yes.

 

[pock3tmonster]

I'd take Grayson over Red Hood any day of the week for the gun toting bat character.



Seriously, it's like night and day. If you told me Johns was ghost writing it, I'd believe you.

It's up there with Green Arrow; both books have been the biggest surprises of Rebirth for me. I imagine Johns did have a hand in course correcting Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps. The alternative is that the Rebirth initiative gave writers more freedom and helped reinvigorate their enthusiasm and passion, as those are the two qualities that shine through in Venditti's writing on Hal Jordan.

 

[JAXXX]

Her reveal Trailer was a DISSERVICE to Ivy IMO...

 

[Tyaren]

Nightwing was so offensively bad in Injustice 1 he is banned from the series forever, no matter what incarnation.

Spoiler

Don't mind me still holding out for him to return as a DLC character.

 

[pock3tmonster]

Spoiler

Don't mind me still holding out for him to return as a DLC character.

I guess he won't return because Damian has given up the Nightwing identity in favour of Robin.

 

[Scotia]

I loved Nightwing in GAU. Everyone slept on the staff version of him but I always cleaned house when I used it.

 

[bubumiao]

Brainiac looking sick.

https://youtu.be/-LuXcZyEFSc

The graphics are fantastic. Bioware should contract some of the guys from NetherRealm.

 

[pock3tmonster]

Brainiac looking sick.

https://youtu.be/-LuXcZyEFSc

I clicked thinking his gear was shown off. Disappointed. :/

 

[bubumiao]

I clicked thinking his gear was shown off. Disappointed. :/

Sorry, just the shattered alliances part 5 with a little Brainiac gameplay.

 

[pock3tmonster]

Sorry, just the shattered alliances part 5 with a little Brainiac gameplay.

Haha. No worries. Brainiac does look sick though. I am loving the reach of his grabs in what little gameplay we've seen of him.

 

[Marvel]

Braniac with the custom LED's

 

[lucebuce12]

Man, literally all of Poison Ivy's gear moves look like something that I prefer OVER the default moves

 

[vg260]

Man, literally all of Poison Ivy's gear moves look like something that I prefer OVER the default moves

I know, right? I feel that way abut a lot of characters.

 

[Alienous]

Man, literally all of Poison Ivy's gear moves look like something that I prefer OVER the default moves

But in good news that second gear outfit.

Yes, more of that when it comes to Ivy, please.

 

[pock3tmonster]

Man, literally all of Poison Ivy's gear moves look like something that I prefer OVER the default moves

I was worried that might happen after her lacklustre reveal trailer.

 

[lucebuce12]

I was worried that might happen after her lacklustre reveal trailer.

I know, right? I feel that way abut a lot of characters.

I mean I'm still gonna play those casual modes too but I feel like this is really gonna hurt longevity for this game tbh by locking this stuff. I hope they reconsider this decision down the line.

But in good news that second gear outfit.

Yes, more of that when it comes to Ivy, please.

I had this face for like 30 seconds after seeing those alts.

 

[Ryce]

I know, right? I feel that way abut a lot of characters.

You would think after adding Cheetah they'd change up default Catwoman a bit to lessen her emphasis on claw attacks, but nope.

 

[pock3tmonster]

I mean I'm still gonna play those casual modes too but I feel like this is really gonna hurt longevity for this game tbh by locking this stuff. I hope they reconsider this decision down the line.
I had this face for like 30 seconds after seeing those alts.

Eh, I'm not a casual gamer but have zero interest in playing this without custom gear and special moves given the focus on customisation. I'm going to skip the online modes that disable such options.

 

[Alienous]

I mean I'm still gonna play those casual modes too but I feel like this is really gonna hurt longevity for this game tbh by locking this stuff. I hope they reconsider this decision down the line.

It shouldn't be impossible to allow the moves in competetive mode if they turn them into 'loadouts', and I hope that's what they do. Then all they'd have to do is come up with snappy character nicknames.

It would basically be a simplified version of MKX's variations but at least then some of the cooler moves would make their appearance online, assuming the gear moves aren't all atrociously balanced. It'll be such a shame if those are barely seen.

 

[bubumiao]

Since we never got Dr. Octopus in MvC3/UMvC3 (or Omega Red) Brainiac looks like what I'd imagine a character with mechanical tentacles to look. I like this game more and more because it's also igniting an interest in DC lore something I'd never really researched before.

Is the Poison Ivy stream archived yet? I just caught the end when they were playing vs.

 

[lucebuce12]

It shouldn't be impossible to allow the moves in competetive mode if they turn them into 'loadouts', and I hope that's what they do. Then all they'd have to do is come up with snappy character nicknames.

It would basically be a simplified version of MKX's variations but at least then some of the cooler moves would make their appearance online, assuming the gear moves aren't all atrociously balanced. It'll be such a shame if those are barely seen.

Exactly, it can't be something that's THAT difficult to implement and it would be a great boon to the tournament and online competitive scene.

Since we never got Dr. Octopus in MvC3/UMvC3 (or Omega Red) Brainiac looks like what I'd imagine a character with mechanical tentacles to look. I like this game more and more because it's also igniting an interest in DC lore something I'd never really researched before.

Is the Poison Ivy stream archived yet? I just caught the end when they were playing vs.

Yup, just saw it on the archive myself: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/136925759

Poison Ivy starts at 40:24

 

[pock3tmonster]

It shouldn't be impossible to allow the moves in competetive mode if they turn them into 'loadouts', and I hope that's what they do. Then all they'd have to do is come up with snappy character nicknames.

It would basically be a simplified version of MKX's variations but at least then some of the cooler moves would make their appearance online, assuming the gear moves aren't all atrociously balanced. It'll be such a shame if those are barely seen.

We already have loadouts; you have five per character. It's just a question of whether the modes that disable stat gains from gear also disable custom special moves. I'd be okay with custom special moves always being active regardless of game mode.

 

[J-Tier]

It shouldn't be impossible to allow the moves in competetive mode if they turn them into 'loadouts', and I hope that's what they do. Then all they'd have to do is come up with snappy character nicknames.

It would basically be a simplified version of MKX's variations but at least then some of the cooler moves would make their appearance online, assuming the gear moves aren't all atrociously balanced. It'll be such a shame if those are barely seen.

This is what they would need to do, default loadouts. The custom moves will be fun to play with in the beginning, but if I wanted to seriously use a character, that custom move would never be used again.

 

[bubumiao]

Eh, I'm not a casual gamer but have zero interest in playing this without custom gear and special moves given the focus on customisation. I'm going to skip the online modes that disable such options.

I feel pretty much the same way. I want to level up my characters and be a fucking monster because of it (due to gear/grinding for the best).

 

[bubumiao]

This is what they would need to do, default loadouts. The custom moves will be fun to play with in the beginning, but if I wanted to seriously use a character, that custom move would never be used again.

But then that will defeat the purpose of separate modes (gear disabled vs gear enabled). I understand you want a mode that compromises and gives you a few extra moves with the loadouts, but then what would be the point of grinding for gear in a separate mode?

 

[lucebuce12]

EDIT: I misread.

 

[pock3tmonster]

I feel pretty much the same way. I want to level up my characters and be a fucking monster because of it (due to gear/grinding for the best).

I hope matchmaking has been tuned well enough to balance the difference in levels and gear. I'm 100% down with the gear system, but I don't want new players to be turned away from the game due to poor matchmaking. I suppose that's why there's an option to disable stat gains before matches begin though. We can choose whether we want to enable "beast" mode.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I know, right? I feel that way abut a lot of characters.

Yeah, when I'm disappointed when I found out that few new moves Flash had was locked behind the gears. I fear to find out which moves is going to be locked behind the gears with Captain Cold.

 

[bubumiao]

We already have loadouts; you have five per character. It's just a question of whether the modes that disable stat gains from gear also disable custom special moves. I'd be okay with custom special moves always being active regardless of game mode.

Should they be unlocked from the get go? I don't actually know how any of the gear shit works right now to be honest. I want it to be fair, but also provide incentive for investing time grinding for the gear in the first place.

 

[J-Tier]

But then that will defeat the purpose of separate modes (gear disabled vs gear enabled). I understand you want a mode that compromises and gives you a few extra moves with the loadouts, but then what would be the point of grinding for gear in a separate mode?

Just for the purpose of a tourney mode.

 

[Alienous]

We already have loadouts; you have five per character. It's just a question of whether the modes that disable stat gains from gear also disable custom special moves. I'd be okay with custom special moves always being active regardless of game mode.

The problem there arises in how many gear moves there are. Without a small set of fixed gear move combinations you can't reasonably expect a player to develop strategies for handling, say, a particular type of Poison Ivy. There's too much unpredictability there, and the loadouts would be to avoid that.

 

[pock3tmonster]

Should they be unlocked from the get go? I don't actually know how any of the gear shit works right now to be honest. I want it to be fair, but also provide incentive for investing time grinding for the gear in the first place.

I don't think special moves should be unlocked from the beginning to be honest. I enjoy the incentive of unlocking new special moves and gaining increased stats from better gear in spite of progress being random. Maybe the tournament mode that has been discussed could grant access to every custom special move in order to keep players on equal footing.

 

[Khezu]

I feel that way about a lot of characters, but not really Ivy.

Garden of Life and Thorn armor are just slightly modified versions of her normal moves.
The other version of the vine attack looks a bit better, but seems a lot worse.

The only one I wish was default is her thorn fireball, but balance wise considering her other tools, she might not need it.

 

[bubumiao]

Just for the purpose of a tourney mode.

I could live with that. I'm sure NRS is considering all of this.

 

[sephi22]

Gear moves are currently turned off in competitive mode. I know because Tyler and Jared fought with gear on and competitive mode on and Ivy was using her default moveset instead of the modified moves.
I can think of a couple of sinister reasons why they'd keep gear moves away from competitive, but I'm sleeping now and will detail my thoughts when I have more time to mull over this