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Kancolle Community |OT| - Torpedo Cruiser? I hardly knew 'er.
- Thread starter StayDead
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How have you managed to make it this far? Do you just cull any ship with less than optimal max stats?
Eeeh? Here I thought 180 slots for ships is enough. I even kept dupes of Taigei, Yuu an Shioi.
I have all Auxiliary ships, BBs(welcome pasta BB), CVB, CV(except Graf), CVL(except Hiyou), CAV, SS, SSV and the new class EE.
I don't keep all DDs, CLs and CA tho.
Not fan of Yuugumos(except Naganami). Kagerou class are nice but stats are average, so I kept some of them, same with Asashio class. Shiratsuyu class are awesome and I intended to collect them all. Potato class... I just kept the flagships and Uranami. Hatsuharu class, I didn't see the appeal. Akatsuki class, Kamikaze class and Akizuki class, I have them all, of course. CL missing Tama and Natori. CA missing Takao and Panpakapan.
kuroneko0509
Member
here I am been wondering few hours ago why rng is nice to me for e1-e4. bam e5 1st phase node m eating my bauxite like there's no tomorrow
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Man, so lazy to reset the map for E5 farming. At least E3 let you hit the TP boss. 
I think I had 10 Souryuus and Hiryuus at one point before I just conceded and killed 6 of each (I figure 4 each would be enough. lol)
I also did silly things like have dupe Maya, Choukai, Abukuma, Kasumi, Ooshio, the Kongous, the Nagatos, and so on.
I basically have the entire Kandex now, and beyond the 10 of each sub, I also have various dupes that I leveled because I had nothing else to do and I am too indecisive to figure out who to marry. lol
I think I had 10 Souryuus and Hiryuus at one point before I just conceded and killed 6 of each (I figure 4 each would be enough. lol)
I also did silly things like have dupe Maya, Choukai, Abukuma, Kasumi, Ooshio, the Kongous, the Nagatos, and so on.
Send LBAS full fighter, wait that tsu ships will shoot down all the bombers anyway. Just have to accept it I guess. Also one of the reason why I stick with STF on 2nd phase. More tsu on the route to clean up your bauxite..
Yeah, resetting is a pain, but A ranking LD also is a risk of accidentally kill the boss on day battle.Man, so lazy to reset the map for E5 farming. At least E3 let you hit the TP boss.
I'd buy more slots and heartlock more ships, if my country currency exchange rate not sucks as it is now... Slots of 10 could get me meals for 5 workdays hahaha.
Yes, they are still immune. I did it twice during first phase E5H, with Akizuki equipped with 2x MAX 10 HFD + 1x MAX 21 Air radar kai no less. But yeah, if your guts say don't, just retreat. Not good for heart experiencing that situation.
kuroneko0509
Member
and done. kinda feel unsatisfied with this event, probably the fastest in recent events? 1 day to do e1, e2 & 1/2 e3 and another day to clear the rest lol
not sure if i'll bother going back to e3 & e4 for shimushu & etorofu.
not sure if i'll bother going back to e3 & e4 for shimushu & etorofu.
Yeah, this event felt a bit underwhelming. It felt longer to me if only because my internet was gone for almost 4 days a couple of weeks ago.
I guess first? CTF.
I keep getting someone taiha'd by the BBs despite getting them all to red health/sinking them with my initial bombing run
Do you have a picture of your set-up?
Kongou
Hiei
Shoukaku
Akagi
Zuikaku
Kaga
Sendai
Bep
Yuudachi
Shigure
Kumano
Haruna
I really need to start using a viewer of some kind.
You should. They're great tools. Personally, I use KC3Kai.
Anyway, you're using guns that carry and overweight penalty for the Kongou sisters. In combined fleets, the penalty really matters. You should be using Prototype 35.6cm or upgraded normal 35.6cm.
If you have enough LoS, swap the radars on your battleships and give them AP shells. Give radars to your DDs for DA at night. Shigure is the exception as you can give her a torpedo cut-in.
Put Haruna as flagship in the escort fleet.
Instead of a radar on Sendai, give her the night recon plane.
Get rid of the Zuiun on Kumano and give her a normal recon plane. Tsu-class will eat those planes for breakfast.
I'm curious if you're reaching at least AS on all the nodes.
Any easy way to check? Also, thanks for all the help. I had no idea about the penalty lol
No problem. Uh...checking it might be tough without a sortie and screenshoting the air battle phase because you don't use a viewer.
I'm going to set up a viewer, it clearly makes this easier haha.
Right, my air power is 621~637 now, which is way too much for easy. Time to add some more bombers back in.
Yup. That was going to be a suggestion of mine if you had a lot of FP.
Against BBHimes is it better to torp bomber or dive bomber?
Well, if I remember correctly, torpedo bombers should to more damage overall. However, against the first phase E5 boss, dive bombers get a damage bonus.
Send one LBAS with 3 x LBAS bombers + 1 fighter to BB Hime node, 1 LBAS to Boss node and one more either defense or boss node. Looking at your fighters, one to boss is enough.
Your second fleet need some work tho. Do you have historical fleet, like Nachi, Kiso, Abukuma, Tama, Ushio, Kasumi, Shiranui or Hatsushimo. If you have at least 4 of them, please use them in second fleet as they will not go through node M, which is a cancer. It'll be good if you could tell which ship you have from that list. Also do you have Kitakami KN and Ooi KN?
Sample of first fleet with equips. For FBB, you could use prototype 35.6 gun / normal 35.6 gun if you don't have 38.1 Warspite gun. For CV, the arrangement for plane type is important(colours), like blue, red, blue, green for Akagi. However you can swap the planes to a better plane of same type, like Tenzan to Reppuu/Reppuu kai. Your cranes are still in their kai version, so with this arrangement, your fleet should still have AS/+ on all nodes:
More teasers for Nagato Kai Ni: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/864641928763015168
Goddamn does she look so good.
Goddamn does she look so good.
I have I think every single ship from the historical fleet, EDIT: No, I do not. I have Nachi, Tama, Shiranui, Hatsuhimo or Kiso >_< I had some but culled them to fit new ships last event but other than Tama who's level 50 they're all lower than level 10. Is it still worth using it and just hoping I get carried by my BBs/CVs?
Also I swapped out my BBs and my plane set up is pretty much the same as that once I
swapped them all yesterday. I noticed once I lowered my AS, I still get at least AS on every node and I managed to get to the boss node once after I changed everything (but then it was late and I needed repaiirs), only managed to do chip damage as I had to send Bep home.
I've got KTKM and Ooi KN (they were my first high level ships), so I'll swap out one of my DDs for them in my escort fleet and swap out Kumano for the other, since I think they'll both help with the opening Torpedo.
Hmm, that okay I guess, if you don't have problems with node M. That's one of the point of having historical ships. Another one is they have around 1.2x damage multiplier on boss node, R and T.
Sample escort fleet. Sendai, Ooi and Kitakami could be equipped with larger gun but it'll decrease their accuracy a bit. It'll be good if Verniy could be equipped with simple AACI to help surviving opening airstrike. If you decide to use Shigure instead, you could put 3 torps on her, or 2 torps with one skilled lookout.
If you still having problem killing the boss, you might want to debuff first. S rank node D and E, and perfect S at node C(Air defense, STF, bring AACI ship like Maya or Akizuki class and/or send LBASS full fighters to that node).
I'm looking forward for any Kai Ni ships tho.
Sample escort fleet. Sendai, Ooi and Kitakami could be equipped with larger gun but it'll decrease their accuracy a bit. It'll be good if Verniy could be equipped with simple AACI to help surviving opening airstrike. If you decide to use Shigure instead, you could put 3 torps on her, or 2 torps with one skilled lookout.
If you still having problem killing the boss, you might want to debuff first. S rank node D and E, and perfect S at node C(Air defense, STF, bring AACI ship like Maya or Akizuki class and/or send LBASS full fighters to that node).
Still in rough sketch, long way to go before implementation. Yura however, basically done
I'm looking forward for any Kai Ni ships tho.
kuroneko0509
Member
just use the ships if it's already kai'd. non-kai is a bit debatable, since even with 1.2x damage it might be still less than non-bonus but higher leveled ships. not to mention non-kai generally have 1 equip slot less.
as for that nagamon k2 teaser, it's pretty much the same one from the comptiq magazine. considering not many ppl actually buy it or never cared for updates from matome etc. just think it as an 1st announcement instead of another update towards nagamon k2 status xD
as for that nagamon k2 teaser, it's pretty much the same one from the comptiq magazine. considering not many ppl actually buy it or never cared for updates from matome etc. just think it as an 1st announcement instead of another update towards nagamon k2 status xD
Some high quality scans from Comptiq magazine: http://imgur.com/a/DPves
Probably yes. Got get that GangutThank you Andrea and Kuro. I switched up my setup of ships and used the same setup you have and I'm going through it now and my ships are barelly even taking any damage.
It helps my Kongou sisters are actually getting their cutins now (I guess that was the penalty problem)?
Wait, did I see Yuubari with flight deck there?
I think she's just holding the launcher that Yura Kai Ni is going to have. The same looking ones as Abukuma and Kinu.
Ah, the daihatsu launcher.
Hmm, Nagato and Mutsu should have same setup as Kongou, but with bigger guns. CVL, all green planes, except Ryuujou's last slot. Put Saiun there. You might be able to squeeze best red plane on Junyou first slot, but make sure Air Power above 350.
Yup. I'm just more excited about Nagato Kai Ni since I'm more of a capital ship kind of guy.
kuroneko0509
Member
it seems ppl figure out the multiplier when using type 2 (and type 95 too I guess since their description is the same) along with sonar & type 3/94 depth charge
https://twitter.com/nupan4sei/status/864818956887965697B
https://twitter.com/nupan4sei/status/864818956887965697B
Hmm BB is not my priority as they already powerful. I love to see small ships getting special gimmicks. Underdog type?
On E1 boss or all maps? Link doesn't work.
Try setting up one ship as OASW ship. That should reduce subs number and increase your fleet survival rate.
kuroneko0509
Member
weird that 1 tweet gone. anyway it's not like he deleted the other tweets that related to it
https://twitter.com/nupan4sei/status/864818956887965697
sonar + t3/94dc = 15% bonus
sonar + t2/95dc = 15% bonus
t3/94dc + t2/95dc = 10% bonus
bonus related to t2/95dc stacks additively with each other, and multiplicatively with the usual asw combo bonus. that explains 43.75% total bonus when using all 3 equipment types
while English name in the wiki says the same, technically the 2 depth charge is different. the usual one is the weapon while the new one is the depth charge barrel replenish stock, as can be seen from the equipment pictures
https://twitter.com/nupan4sei/status/864818956887965697
sonar + t3/94dc = 15% bonus
sonar + t2/95dc = 15% bonus
t3/94dc + t2/95dc = 10% bonus
bonus related to t2/95dc stacks additively with each other, and multiplicatively with the usual asw combo bonus. that explains 43.75% total bonus when using all 3 equipment types
while English name in the wiki says the same, technically the 2 depth charge is different. the usual one is the weapon while the new one is the depth charge barrel replenish stock, as can be seen from the equipment pictures
So basically type 2/95 depth charge are different from type 3/94 depth charge, but having shared icon.
1. Equipping SONAR + 3/94 depth charge gave bonus multiplier.
2. Equipping SONAR + 3/94 depth charge + 3/94 depth charge will have same bonus multiplier with previous setup (1).
3. Equipping SONAR + 3/94 depth charge + 2/95 depth charge will have bonus multiplier on top of (1) bonus multiplier.
Got to remember this setup then.
1. Equipping SONAR + 3/94 depth charge gave bonus multiplier.
2. Equipping SONAR + 3/94 depth charge + 3/94 depth charge will have same bonus multiplier with previous setup (1).
3. Equipping SONAR + 3/94 depth charge + 2/95 depth charge will have bonus multiplier on top of (1) bonus multiplier.
Got to remember this setup then.
kuroneko0509
Member
It became a joke after the devs implemented OASW. Now with DEs being able to OASW at just 60 ASW, it makes 1-5 even more resource efficient.