grandjedi6 said:
They're moving to the Wii? Really? There are a handful of examples but for the most part developers are either consolidating on the DS or devoted to the HD systems. Annoyingly, the Wii has been getting the second fiddle.
You get the big name games (SO, FF, a Tales game) coming to HD consoles, which looks like a good choice (because of budgets), but not much of the smaller stuff...which either dies out (if they couldn't sell enough on HD consoles based on current JRPG sales), or move to cheaper development environments. HD games at this moment in time need a lot higher sales than their previous gen counterparts, so imo it'll be the games that can provide those numbers individually that go to HD consoles. So overall, you see high individual sales for HD games, but high overall sales for Wii/DS games (which kind of explains the NPD inconsistency). DQX might actually be an exception in this...I'm not sure FF or KH games will come to the Wii, but everything's possible I guess (EatChildren's Disney-KH argument sounds pretty logical).
You say this as if tons of 3rd party games haven't been bombing in Japan on the Wii. The Tales of Symphonia spinoff is the only RPG to do quite well on the system.
I don't think all Wii RPGs taken together have cost as much as BD :-D And while it didn't exactly bomb, it didn't do very well either...oh, and it *was* supposed to set the charts on fire, unlike Alien Syndrome. As for Wii RPGs, no, as few as there are, they haven't really bombed.
Also you say every JRPG has bombed the HD systems but thats just not true. While they're hasn't been anything spectacular alot of them have done adequetly.
Compared to the investment and expectations? I'm not really sure about that.
In a direct comparison between the Wii and 360, the 360 has proven itself to have an existing RPG market while the Wii has yet to do so. Now obviously its a benefit to alot of series, especially Tales of, to start releasing RPGs for the Wii to capitalize on its popularity. I just don't think Megaten is one of those series that would necessarily benefit from moving to the Wii
What has been proven is just the opposite - that you can't create a JRPG market just from moneyhats, which MS has tried to do. It hasn't worked so far at all. Second tier stuff would be incredibly risky on 360, especially because of Japan, where I guess a lot of the sales come from.
As for "crazy assumption"...well, it's far from obvious for everyone, and there are loads of counter arguments, so yeah, for an assumption, it's crazy. Would be less crazy as a theorem, especially if you supported it with arguments that couldn't be destroyed in three seconds, but making assumption like this makes your original argument (which everyone has forgotten anyway by now) simply worthless, because the assumption you build on is so debatable.
That's all of them I think. DQS, Fire Emblem, and Symphonia did well in Japan. We're not really sure how any of them did in the west but they certainly didn't light the charts on fire.
You somehow appear to imply that games like Alien Syndrome, MuA and Opoona should have done (relatively) better than Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery or Last Remnant. Classy.
As for 360/PS3 Atlus stuff: do you think they could make a game on the PS3/360 that's significantly better looking than the PS2 version and sells enough to make a profit (ie. significantly higher than the PS2 versions)? And it's not even one game: they release a few games every year, do you think PS3/360 has that kind of JRPG market?