CountAntonius
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There is. It's the loading screen but it's kinda easy to get carried away. I learned my lesson though and it hasn't happened since.
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Kotaku: Pokémon Go Could Be A Death Sentence For A Black Man
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There is. It's the loading screen but it's kinda easy to get carried away. I learned my lesson though and it hasn't happened since.
There is a warning when the app loads up.
I think this article is probably correct, although I think the core problem goes beyond racial disparity.
Honestly, I see all kinds of problems with Pokemon Go. Not with the game itself, but with people doing stupid stuff while playing and getting themselves or others hurt or killed.
I've already heard some people are playing it while driving.
I won't be surprised if we see Pokemon Go permanently retired someday soon by Nintendo. They may be covered legally, but people and/or kids getting hurt or killed because they were staring at their device in public because the game requires that to be played is not good for Nintendo's brand.
Honestly, I see all kinds of problems with Pokemon Go. Not with the game itself, but with people doing stupid stuff while playing and getting themselves or others hurt or killed.
I've already heard some people are playing it while driving.
I won't be surprised if we see Pokemon Go permanently retired someday soon by Nintendo. They may be covered legally, but people and/or kids getting hurt or killed because they were staring at their device in public because the game requires that to be played is not good for Nintendo's brand.
Revolutionary
Member
It's made me feel safer, personally. Previously, when I'd walk alone at night in the park I would get worried about either looking suspicious to NYPD or getting jacked. Last night, there were dozens upon dozens of people walking around trying to catch em all. I wasn't concerned about my safety in the slightest; I just wanted to know where to find a goddamn Raichu.
veloxStrix
Banned
Well, it's been out for ~3 days now with ~almost every I know playing it and we haven't heard any real horror stories. I'd say give it a few children before we start with the fear mongering.
Oh, you just wait. I suspect, though, that you wouldn't want to bet money on no one getting themselves or others harmed as a result of playing it in public.
whats this about?
I've also read the contrary where some players actualy saved lives while playing late night. Saw 2 post today on Reddit about that. 1 saved a woman that her house was in fire other thread was about a group of player who met a motor cycle guy who got an accident (seassure).
fortunaly both case ended well.
Harmed ? I didn't read anything yet about that but beig in dangerous situation yes because they were hunting pokemons at 2AM in unfamilars areas or tripped on the road because they were not watching where they were going
I've been reading this thread and trying not to get upset and still not but LET ME INFORM YOU OF SOMETHING (yes, the caps were necessary). This has been happening for years, before your time and maybe (I hope not) after your time. The only thing that has changed are phone cameras and it being recorded/streamed. The platform for ordinary citizens to report that is usually not reported but by the ones that actually perform the act. A voice being heard. I'm not going to go into it anymore because it emotionally impacts me.
I unfortunately and fortunately have a Windows Phone so I can't even play Pokémon Go if I wanted (well, I could use the old iPhone or android phone around the house but meh). It's sad that I have thought about this situation and I know my friends have as well, but it is the world we live in. I'll still try it out though.
I wouldn't attribute it to just one thread haha.
However I do love this site for caring and banning these people. Maybe one day we can get a thread where no racists show up. #daretodream
Definitely something to take into consideration.
And not to derail, but it's not all doom and gloom!
edit: Beaten a million pages ago
Nobody Important
Neo Member
The CDC is prohibited from tracking certain data when it comes to guns and gun deaths. In addition to that, law enforcement agencies are not required to track and report certain statistics as well.
But even in that data that you quoted, being that African Americans only represent 13% of the US population, 30% still represents are grossly disproportionate rate.
Hundreds of Police Killings Are Uncounted in Federal Stats
NOTE: Doing a goggle search for "law enforcement not required reporting" brings up the full article without requiring to subscribe
Also, do you happen to recall which CDC report you pulled that from?
Bobs Big Boy
Member
There's just so much more to do outside.
Have only ever played from home. Not the target audience for this apparently.
poodaddy
Member
I wasn't at all interested in the game but now I'm thinking about downloading it lol. Is it on Android?Definitely something to take into consideration.
And not to derail, but it's not all doom and gloom!
Goes both ways, to be honest.
I think it's just police officers that have a bit of racism in them that even they don't know about and these officers being people just like everyone else and get scared. Guns should always be the last resort not the 1st. Also one thing I've noticed is a lot of Cops don't know how to de-escalate situations. I also think that all of these cops getting acquitted is shady and that putting it lightly. In all of these different situations over years all of these cops we justified in killing black people.
None of this is new though, cops have been harassing and killing black people since before I was born and I'm 25 years old. Only difference now is that there are cameras everywhere including ones in the majority of people's pockets with their phones.
Just my 2 cents.
None of this is new though, cops have been harassing and killing black people since before I was born and I'm 25 years old. Only difference now is that there are cameras everywhere including ones in the majority of people's pockets with their phones.
Just my 2 cents.
Dangansona
Member
This is well reasoned post on all fronts. And yes I think that this kind of behavior will attract attention from all people, but I think the difference with minorities is what I bolded above.
And yes officers should be briefed about this, but I feel like poor training and briefing is largely the cause of at least one of the shootings in the last two weeks and many more before it.
This all begs the question about how popular Pokemon Go will be and how long it will stick around.
Darth_Caedus
No longer canonical
Agreed lol
Nice try. Black males make up far, far less than 30% of the population. Gun-related law enforcement violence happens to them in a far greater ratio than anyone else (except possibly Native Americans, haven't seen recent numbers on that). Raw numbers tell you nothing. Context matters.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Wow that is pretty awesome. Personally I wouldn't take the chance, I'm a wimp. By the time the cop got involved I would be shaking like a leaf.
Maybe when you're hunting pokemon with the phone there should be a universal signal that alerts people that you are playing the phone game. Like maybe perhaps a white and re.. oh uh maybe something that can't be confused as gang colors but relates to pokemon. Any bright shirt with Playing Pokemon Go, and a hat too with the pokeball. Nintendo can sell them. Also hope it won't make pokemon go players a easy target for criminals. I still wouldn't do it though. It would have to be something like a national pokemon go hunt day or something, and in controlled zones with security.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Definitely something to take into consideration.
And not to derail, but it's not all doom and gloom!
Amazing.
EdibleKnife
Member
LOL
It's not just that some officers have their own unconscious biases. Many officers are straight up trained and encouraged by their departments to perform racially biased policing.
Yes it's but only for America, Australia and New Zealand.
I hope you will make nice encounter like this.
https://twitter.com/Keddaj/status/751688402982936576
Saint Gregory
Member
I'm thinking that it might be a new talking point in conservative circles or something because I see it getting posted a lot lately. I'm not sure why it wouldn't be concerning that so many white men are getting killed by police also to those who bring it up, there's really not any justification in my mind for 1000+ people to be killed by police each year when other countries have had a fraction of that number in their history.
adversarial
Member
As a black dude, this is depressingly relevant.
Stallion Dan
Member
You keep walking past people or their houses people are gonna feel uneasy and think you're a wierdo, don't matter the colour of your skin.
You are correct. I just think that racism is a part of the whole problem not the end all be all to the problem.
adversarial
Member
Fair enough, the degree of unease is definitely influenced by color, though. At least here in Texas, where I'm at.
Yup, I've read many testemonies like that on Reddit. So people turn off the AR feature now to look less weird so people won't think (or less) players taking photos of them, lol
Yet, we read more heartwarming stories like this, thankfully.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=209554753&postcount=4614
It's a natural course for a country where everyone is allowed to have killing devices.
dumb nitpicking that has nothing to do with videogame but curious on where this data is coming from?
the number provided from the NVDRS for deaths per 100k population related to police shootings in 2010 is 0.17 NH-white and .41 for black-NH
i'm using the NVDRS because the FBI's supplemental homocide reporting system is deemed as near useless garbage by the FBI director himself and the regular CDC 'vital statistics' is missing a minimum of 500-600 deaths noted in the NVDRS which already underreports despite being the most accurate system according to harvard+northeastern university
from my understanding the only system that potentially tracks police gun violence (as in including weapon discharges and not deaths) is the FBI uniform crime reporting program which is what the SHRS is part of anyways and that's also been deemed effectively useless specifically because reporting is voluntary for police departments and don't match internal police department reports of homocides anyways
please correct me where i'm wrong, i need more info and immediate correction on this stuff b/c i've been out of the loop for so long
MegamanPoweredUP
Member
That's so true.
In my town people live in condos mostly. You always see people walking around buildings doing stuff.
That's quite different with houses. If there's someone outside you're going to notice and feel uneasy.
StrangeRoboMemory
Member
I came to the article prepared for it to be inflammatory and jumping to crazy conclusions, but it was thoughtful and sadly accurate.
RichiRamjag
Member
I'm the same way, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I try not too use being black (well half) as a crutch, but I've got to say that for the first time, I do have a bit of wariness with everything going on. It's nice not to assume, but that doesn't change the world around you. These two men who just died most likely weren't assuming that they'd be shot that day either.
And this is the reason you're catching flack. You're trying to downplay serious shit and generally being dismissive of it. Almost to the point of being rude.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Times like this I'm glad I live in Japan (although Go isn't even out here yet-_-)
Lol nah
Check out OT side
Lol nah
Check out OT side
Saint Gregory
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staticneuron
Member
So in my life I have been dealt with 4 incidents with cops. 3 were harmless, one of them the cops had shotguns aimed at me and my friends. None of us have records, affiliated with gangs or doing something that would warrant this. It is a situation in which when you are in it, you realize..... it only takes ONE bad encounter for your life to possibly end. No matter how zen you may feel about the world around you or how immune you might think you are, unless you are rocking nine lives or something, I wouldn't be so dismissive of what is happening now and quite frankly what has been happening for decades. Would I play any game like this outdoors? Nope. Even Destiny of Spirits, I wandered around indoors. I rather be breathing than to be a tragic new hashtag.
This situation isn't new though, the camera's and distribution via the internet is new.
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Deleted member 10571
Unconfirmed Member
What? Why? Is this just drive by trolling or do you have a point here?
I don't know about getting shot, but I do know about getting stopped by the cops on a regular basis. I've been stopped many times for no other reason than I was a black man walking around my neighborhood. Sometimes the cops are trying to be friendly and sometimes they start off being antagonistic. I can see how this can and does lead to crazy escalations which can ultimately lead to someone getting shot or beaten. I've been lucky, but I'm sure there are lots of black men who can relate to this.
The fear will understandably and reasonably persist until innocent people of color stop being killed on a regular basis
Not hard to understand the author's concern — playing Pokemon Go is a suspicious-looking activity that resembles casing a location, which could attract police attention
And if you've been paying attention this past week, you know how that can go if you happen to be the wrong skin color
Again, most people understand that the vast, vast, VAST majority of police are good and would sacrifice themselves to save anyone
But there are still bad apples (or at least impulsive ones), and that's what gives pause to minorities who are disproportionately affected
Why, did you even read the article?
Mad Season
Banned
Scarier thought is pedophiles using this to locate kids