If they are true I will giggle so hard.
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Kotaku Rumor: PlayStation 4 codenamed 'Orbis', 2013, AMD CPU, SI GPU, Anti-Used Games
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If they are true I will giggle so hard.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Yet Xbox Games on Demand and PS3 full game downloads generally stay at MSRP until the greatest hits edition is released.
Reallink
Member
Hate to break it to you, but master race likely won't exist in the form you're imagining if anti-used reaches fruition. This would be a concerted effort on MS, Sony, and Publisher's's parts. Emphasis publishers, the ones that control and account for all of your big budget PC games. Why would they go from spear heading this kind of system to releasing something on the defacto piracy platform. It makes no logical sense. They might sell 50k, 100k, or even 500k copies on PC, but it wouldn't amount to a drop in the bucket compared to their console revenue/profit. This is why PC releases are routinely delayed months past the console releases now. If publishers get their way next-gen, PC releases simply won't exist, or will be delayed to the point no one cares or bothers (e.g. a year+)
Goldrusher
Member
Haha.
So much bullshit.
So much bullshit.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
H_Prestige
Banned
Who says you have to buy your games from XBL or PSN? Buy a disc from amazon at 50% off.
chickdigger802
Banned
Are there hdmi splitters around?
Too much shit under the tv.
Too much shit under the tv.
Hari Seldon
Member
I realize that used games hurt the console publishers. But I wonder if they realize that if you can't flip games, only the bourgeois will be shelling out $60 for a new release with 8 hours of single player.
So?
Don't buy the DD versions.
That's why you stick to discs.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Where does the rumor say you have to be always online? From what I am reading, it could also be just an activation based system like Steam?
Mechanized
Member
Time to start selling my PS3 games I guess. I don't want a mountain of consoles under my TV. No BC, while understandable, is bad.
Psychotext
Member
Christ... I hope that pastebin isn't right for the PS4. I hope it is right for the 720 though, that sounds like a monster.
what solution to gamestop having huge profits while developers close down all the time even though their games are relatively well received could have MS and Sony conceive rather than this anti-used game mechanism? Enlighten us.
And once again you'll end up paying 3-5 euro more on the budget re-releases of the games rather than buying used games. Is that really such a lot to ask?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The other reason why B/C is nice. I'm not exactly sure what console makers expect us to do here. Throw out our old games and consoles?
RedNumberFive
Banned
Of course that's what I do, because I'm a logical sane person. What I'm saying is that anyone who thinks we're going to see giant catalog sales of games on consoles next gen is insane!
IrishNinja
Member
"the large print giveth; the small print taketh away"
oh yeah, id embrace console DD if it was anything like steam sales/prices, but that's not gonna happen. they'll just keep inflating budgets and have fewer avenues/revenue streams to compete with.
oh yeah, id embrace console DD if it was anything like steam sales/prices, but that's not gonna happen. they'll just keep inflating budgets and have fewer avenues/revenue streams to compete with.
Duane Cunningham
Member
Orbis - circle
Vita - Life
Circle of Life
It's the OooooOOOrbis of VIIiiiiIIITAAaaaa...
And it moves us alll
Neuromancer
Member
Pffffft hahahahaha
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
They'll just kill off single player games and mandate that every game should be online MP focused.
Uhh, do as many of us have done for decades? You either keep it and continue using the older systems or you sell it.
It's not like I could play NES games on a SNES or SNES games on an N64, you know.
We're not, but there are many other ways to create sales.
Those giant catalog sales wouldn't really apply to a new console until it has been out for years anyways as those catalogs won't yet exist.
lol, yeah.
But I don't think Sony would go with a sphere-on-stick approach for a theoretical Move 2.0. It needs to be less dependant on visual tracking IMO in order to streamline (if not eliminate altogether) the calibration process as well as for ease of use (ie no need to keep the Move 2.0 into PS Eye or whatever field of view).
I'm thinking about something closer to the Razor Hydra in terms of set up and ease of use.
H_Prestige
Banned
You will get huge sales....from retail. Just like this gen.
Whatever catalog sales you're talking about are irrelevant. Nobody got them this gen and it didn't kill any console manufacturer.
Darkerkamikaze
Member
Those big bundles on Steam are insane, I have to agree we wont be seeing anything like that on consoles.
Ninja Scooter
Member
The traditional game companies are operating like dinosaurs and I can see the bubble bursting on the industry. I think in 10 years we will look back and think how fucking crazy it was to try and sustain a model around games that cost tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars to make and sold for $60 a pop. Shit is gonna get real here in the next few years.
Create a game actually worth keeping
Keep supporting your games
Sell back programs directly to the publisher
Coupons for future purchases
Budget your games properly
Stop giving gamestop all this free preorder shit, then moaning and bitching about them out of the other side of your mouth
Don't treat your customers like thieves
I don't buy used games, but if I can't sell back some game I don't want anymore chances are I won't buy it in the first place.
what specs are these???im not following...
jump_button
Banned
fix
Then it sounds like the industry is through. Simplistic 99 cent games simply aren't going to cut it for me and many others.
I have a feeling that even if the next Xbox and the PS4 have an anti used system in place now it won't make it to launch. Retailers are going to try to leverage that away from them. I doubt they would refuse to sell the systems but you can bet that when someone goes to Gamestop to buy them the workers will hammer it in that you can't even borrow a game from a friend or buy used.
Everything else sounds pretty good and along the lines of what I expected.
Everything else sounds pretty good and along the lines of what I expected.
alexandros
Banned
jono51
Banned
PC is an open market. I can set up my own DD network if I wanted to. Steam is in competition against 3-4 other competent competitors and a multitude of other smaller ones. On PS4 your only option would be PSN, UNLESS they allowed outside companies like Valve, EA and Amazon etc handle the storefront side and compete on price. Unlikely, but the only way consoles could come close to PC on price front (they still wouldn't be as low as PC though as sony would want a cut on top, but still).
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
This.
I`m a collector, buy new and keep my stuff and i will not buy a console where i have to be online all the time to just play a game. No way. What happens in 8 years with the ps 5 out?! My collection would be worthless and i couldn`t play my games without the approval from Sony. Fuck it. I want to own my games and play them when i want (even 10 years later) and not rent them and be dependent of Sony.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I've been doing it for decades. VC on Wii was a godsend, even if I had to rebuy some games, my NES, SNES, and N64 have been retired. Gamecube broke, so BC is even nicer for that.
Sohter.Nura
Member
I'll be skipping next gen if I can't buy used games 
what pastebin???
http://pastebin.com/j4jVaUv0
His post is Dec, I can't find anything about the next Xbox codename rumored to be Durango earlier than that. So he was spot on about both?
Saint Gregory
Member
I just read the Pastebin and those PS4 specs sound kind of lowball compared to the Kotaku rumor. Everything else from the used sales mechanism to the lack of PS3 BC sounds pretty legit though. Emulating the Cell + Nvidia GPU would be no small feat.
I believe that Sony will work on slowing converting the PSN library to be playable on PS4 though, it just won't be ready day 1.
I believe that Sony will work on slowing converting the PSN library to be playable on PS4 though, it just won't be ready day 1.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Let's see
- 2013, sounds reasonable
- AMD CPU, been rumored previously, sounds reasonable
- Southern Islands GPU, makes sense for a console launching in 2013
- anti used games, I previously said there was no way that MS would do this if their competitors didn't. This rumor only makes sense if MS is doing it as well...which speaks to some sort of collusion between devs and manufacturers to push the console market closer to the PC market.
- no BC sounds a little over the top. Software BC should at least be an option, correct?
- 2013, sounds reasonable
- AMD CPU, been rumored previously, sounds reasonable
- Southern Islands GPU, makes sense for a console launching in 2013
- anti used games, I previously said there was no way that MS would do this if their competitors didn't. This rumor only makes sense if MS is doing it as well...which speaks to some sort of collusion between devs and manufacturers to push the console market closer to the PC market.
- no BC sounds a little over the top. Software BC should at least be an option, correct?
theDeeDubs
Member
Sounds good. Hopefully MS adopts the same thing. I was planning on going DD only next gen, but if this rumor is true I can still buy a physical copy and have a dd copy to go along with it. Best of both worlds.
As far a Gamefly goes, I bet they work out some form of temporary code for renters. Couldn't care less about Gamestop used though.
As far a Gamefly goes, I bet they work out some form of temporary code for renters. Couldn't care less about Gamestop used though.