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(LATIMES) The VHS era has officially ended.

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Ripclawe

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http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-vhs-tapes22-2008dec22,0,486575,print.story

VHS era is winding down

The last big supplier of the tapes is ditching the format, ending the long fade-out of a product that ushered in the home theater.
By Geoff Boucher

December 22, 2008

Pop culture is finally hitting the eject button on the VHS tape, the once-ubiquitous home-video format that will finish this month as a creaky ghost of Christmas past.

After three decades of steady if unspectacular service, the spinning wheels of the home-entertainment stalwart are slowing to a halt at retail outlets. On a crisp Friday morning in October, the final truckload of VHS tapes rolled out of a Palm Harbor, Fla., warehouse run by Ryan J. Kugler, the last major supplier of the tapes.

"It's dead, this is it, this is the last Christmas, without a doubt," said Kugler, 34, a Burbank businessman. "I was the last one buying VHS and the last one selling it, and I'm done. Anything left in warehouse we'll just give away or throw away."

Dumped in a humid Florida landfill? It's an ignominious end for the innovative product that redefined film-watching in America and spawned an entire sector led by new household names like Blockbuster and West Coast Video. Those chains gave up on VHS a few years ago but not Kugler, who casually describes himself as "a bottom feeder" with a specialization in "distressed inventory."

Kugler is president and co-owner of Distribution Video Audio Inc., a company that pulls in annual revenue of $20 million with a proud nickel-and-dime approach to fading and faded pop culture. Whether it's unwanted "Speed Racer" ball caps, unsold Danielle Steel novels or unappreciated David Hasselhoff albums, Kugler's company pays pennies and sells for dimes. If the firm had a motto, it would be "Buy low, sell low."

"It's true, one man's trash is another man's gold," Kugler said. "But we are not the graveyard. I'm like a heart surgeon -- we keep things alive longer. Or maybe we're more like the convalescence home right before the graveyard."

The last major Hollywood movie to be released on VHS was "A History of Violence" in 2006. By that point major retailers such as Best Buy and Wal-Mart were already well on their way to evicting all the VHS tapes from their shelves so the valuable real estate could go to the sleeker and smaller DVDs and, in more recent seasons, the latest upstart, Blu-ray discs. Kugler ended up buying back as much VHS inventory as he could from retailers, distributors and studios; he then sold more than 4 million VHS videotapes over the last two years.

Those tapes went to bargain-basement chains such as Dollar Tree, Dollar General and Family Dollar, and Kugler's network of mom-and-pop clients and regional outlets, such as the Gabriel Bros. Stores in West Virginia or the Five Below chain in Pennsylvania. If you bought a Clint Eastwood movie at the Flying J Truck Stop in Saginaw, Mich., or a "Care Bears" tape at one of the H.E. Butts Grocery stores in Texas, Kugler's company probably put it there. He also sells to public libraries, military bases and cruise ships, although those clients now all pretty much want DVDs.

Kugler estimates that 2 million tapes are still sitting on shelves of his clients' stores across the country, but they are the last analog soldiers in the lost battle against the digital invasion. "I'm not sure a lot of people are going to miss VHS," he said, "but it's been good to us."

If you rewind back to the 1980s, VHS represented a remarkable turning point for the American consumer. For the first time, Hollywood's classics and its recent hits could be rented and watched at home.

"It was a sea change," says Leonard Maltin, the film critic and author who has written stacks of books to meet the consumer need for video recommendations. "Hollywood thought it would hurt movie ticket sales, but it didn't deter people from going to movies; in fact, it only increased their appetite for entertainment. Hollywood also thought it would just be a rental market, but then when someone had the idea of lowering the prices, the people wanted to own movies. They wanted libraries at home, and suddenly VHS was a huge part of our lives."

The format was easy to use (although fast-forwarding and rewinding to any particular spot was the worst new-tech irritant since the telephone busy signal) and, of course, the videocassette recorder and blank VHS tapes made it possible to catch up on any missed must-see TV, whether it was "Days of Our Lives" or "Monday Night Football." Hollywood found that movies also enjoyed a second opening weekend, as viewers throughout the country made Friday night trips to the rental store for new releases.

"I think in some ways it even pulled families together, if that doesn't sound too corny, because renting movies became such a part of the weekend," says Jim Henderson, one of the owners of Amoeba Music, the 45,000-square-foot merchant in Hollywood that sells pop culture in just about every format imaginable, including VHS. "It was also a great thing for film fans. You could educate yourself and go back to the well again and again. We're used to choice now, but that was the first time fans could watch what they wanted when they wanted."

Amoeba no longer buys VHS from distributors such as Distribution Video Audio. But customers bring in tapes every day to trade and sell. "We actually sell maybe 200 a day, almost all of them between $1 to $3," Henderson said. "Almost the same amount comes in as goes out."

A lot of those are the classic or foreign films that are not available on DVD, such as "The Magnificent Ambersons" or Gregory Nava's "El Norte," or vintage music videos by punk bands or new wave pioneers such as Black Flag or Siouxsie and the Banshees. Some older customers simply don't want to switch to DVD, others just like the bargain-basement price of the tapes.

But, Henderson said, unlike with vinyl records, no one seems to cling to VHS for romantic reasons.

"DVDs replaced VHS really fast compared to other format changes through the years," Henderson said. "VHS took too long to rewind, they were boxy and cumbersome, the picture was kind of flawed. The tape inside was delicate and just didn't hold up. DVD just blew it away."

It's true, the VHS tape never really had a chance once the DVD arrived in the late 1990s with all its shiny allure -- higher quality image, nimble navigation and all that extra content. After a robust run at the center of pop culture, VHS rentals were eclipsed by DVD in 2003. By the end of 2005, DVD sales were more than $22 billion and VHS was slumping badly but still viable enough to pull in $1.5 billion. Next year, that won't be the case.

Just before Halloween, JVC, the company that introduced the Video Home System format in 1977 in the United States, announced that it would no longer make stand-alone videocassette recorders. The electronic manufacturer still produces hybrid VHS-DVD players, but it's not clear how long that will last.

For a format that made Hollywood so much money, VHS leaves behind a shallow footprint in the movies themselves. There was "The Ring," a 2002 horror movie and its 2005 sequel, about a mysterious VHS tape that brings death to whoever watches it, but that's a sad valentine. This year Jack Black and Mos Def starred in "Be Kind Rewind," a loopy comedy that finds its center at a VHS rental store that is holding out against the DVD era, but the rebellion didn't go beyond the script -- the movie is available for rent or purchase on DVD and Blu-ray, but it was never released on VHS.

The format was also name-checked in "The 40-Year-Old Virgin," the 2005 hit film that stars an unloved salesman at an electronics store; and even he has no room in his heart for the underdog format. "It's a dead technology," he explains to a customer. "It's like buying an eight-track player."

Kugler is one of the rare people who can stir up some nostalgia for the black, boxy tapes. His father bought Distribution Video Audio in 1988 and carved out a niche as an inventory supplier for the video rental stores that were popping up everywhere. His young son was interested in a different end of the entertainment business; the younger Kugler spent many afternoons in his teen years sneaking onto the Paramount Pictures studio lot and soaking it all in. While watching the cast at work on "Planes, Trains and Automobiles," he decided he wanted to become a filmmaker; soon, the kid who was always underfoot on the "Cheers" set even coaxed Ted Danson to appear in a two-minute film he made.

But life took Kugler on a less glamorous path. He started working at Distribution Video Audio in 1991 and in short order took the company to new heights by negotiating directly with studios to buy their overrun inventory.

The approach led the company beyond VHS, and soon Kugler's warehouses were filling up with CDs, books and merchandise like "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" wristwatches and "America's Next Top Model" T-shirts.

A casual observer might wonder how much shelf life those sorts of products could possibly have, but Kugler has moved hard to the Internet and says the "scavenger culture" mentality and sites such as Half.com, Amazon Marketplace and EBay have made it easier than ever to match narrow-niche and oddball customers with the products they want -- especially when it's priced to go at $2 or $3.

With some things, though, even Kugler the great salvager can't find a buyer no matter how low he goes. He took a loss on 50,000 copies of "Yo-Yo Man," a Smothers Brothers instructional video for the stringed toy. ("I'm not sure what I was thinking on that one," Kugler said.) And then there is that stash of VHS tapes that couldn't even earn a spot on the last shipment out of his warehouse: a few thousand copies of "The Man With the Screaming Brain," a 2005 horror movie about a mad scientist, a Bulgarian tycoon, a cab driver and some cranial misadventures. ("That one," Kugler said, "will be buried with us.")

The majority of his firm's business today is with big box retailers including Target, Wal-Mart, K-Mart and Sears, where the company sets up displays of its discounted DVDs, such as "Superman Returns" and "Proof of Life," which are often priced at $10 or less. Plenty of customers see that price as an invitation to build up their DVD collections.

But Kugler, with a sly smile, offered a warning to consumers thinking of putting up shelving to handle their burgeoning libraries.

"The DVD will be obsolete in three or four years, no doubt about it. Everything will be Blu-ray," Kugler said, anticipating the next resident at his pop culture retirement home. "The days of the DVD are numbered. And that is good news for me."
 

B!TCH

how are you, B!TCH? How is your day going, B!ITCH?
VHS? The DVD era is also over as far as I'm concerned.

Only Blu-Ray and digital downloads in my house.
 

mjc

Member
Sad to see if finally die, VHS was awesome. I highly doubt anything will unseat DVD with the exception of digital downloads.
 
It doesn't seem like that long ago that I actually would tape TV shows off to VHS. I kind of miss the manual, analog aspect to it. Now I just fucking get everything I want online or I tivo it, and that's no fun.
 
mjc said:
Sad to see if finally die, VHS was awesome. I highly doubt anything will unseat DVD with the exception of digital downloads.

i'd love to see the stats for Netflix on 360...must be stagering
 

Rorschach

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I know a guy who still collects them. It's sad, really.

With some things, though, even Kugler the great salvager can't find a buyer no matter how low he goes. He took a loss on 50,000 copies of "Yo-Yo Man," a Smothers Brothers instructional video for the stringed toy. ("I'm not sure what I was thinking on that one," Kugler said.) And then there is that stash of VHS tapes that couldn't even earn a spot on the last shipment out of his warehouse: a few thousand copies of "The Man With the Screaming Brain," a 2005 horror movie about a mad scientist, a Bulgarian tycoon, a cab driver and some cranial misadventures. ("That one," Kugler said, "will be buried with us.")
:lol I need a copy of both, STAT!
 

Guy Legend

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You can still buy blank vhs tapes, right? As long as they still produce blank tapes and if players are still available, the format isn't totally dead. Though the vhs era has definitely been finished for quite a while.
 
SlaughterX said:
So I'm not reading that huge wall of text, but does anyone know what the last major release on VHS was?
"The last major Hollywood movie to be released on VHS was "A History of Violence" in 2006."
 

MIMIC

Banned
"The DVD will be obsolete in three or four years, no doubt about it. Everything will be Blu-ray," Kugler said, anticipating the next resident at his pop culture retirement home. "The days of the DVD are numbered. And that is good news for me."

:lol

...oh, he's serious :O

Maybe everyone will have an iPhone, too.
 

Kitsuné

since when does a fox need an accent aigu?
Haha, I still tape films and tv-shows with my VHS recorder/player. I'll replace it the day it stops working.
 

Rorschach

Member
Weapxn said:
That costs money per month. Reusable VHS recording does not.
That's if you want auto-catch, recommendations, and other services. DVR can be used just like a VCR and it's not shitty quality.

It's only ending now? Bit late, aren't they?
You can still buy music tapes!
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
How many months until trendy hipsters decide the vhs tape is awesome and start demanding it be brought back like polaroids?

oh the irony....how i hate you.
 

Kitsuné

since when does a fox need an accent aigu?
wenis said:
How many months until trendy hipsters decide the vhs tape is awesome and start demanding it be brought back like polaroids?

oh the irony....how i hate you.
Haha, I can actually see that happening. I'll hold on to my collection so I can be the coolest cat in town :lol
 

NekoFever

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Weapxn said:
That costs money per month. Reusable VHS recording does not.
I have a DVR that just records digital OTA broadcasts. 160GB HDD, it can search listings for requested shows, and it doesn't cost anything beyond what I paid for the box itself. Had it about three years now and it's indispensible.

I'm tempted to see if I can track down A History of Violence on VHS...
 

ZeoVGM

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TwinIonEngines said:
omg rite
nomg wrong
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Yeah sorry, but no, this isn't wrong.

Technology moves MUCH faster now, and if you think DVD is going to last as long as VHS, or even for another 10 years, you're delusional.
 
Good riddance.

Also, Blu-Ray can DIAF. I have no interest in a format with HDCP, players with fucking loading times, multiple profile versions, and the shitstorms that happen with BD-Live.
 
Aristotlekh said:
It doesn't seem like that long ago that I actually would tape TV shows off to VHS. I kind of miss the manual, analog aspect to it. Now I just fucking get everything I want online or I tivo it, and that's no fun.

2005 is when I stopped recording.

Thats about when finding shows online became extremely easy.
 

ZeoVGM

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faceless007 said:
Good riddance.

Also, Blu-Ray can DIAF. I have no interest in a format with HDCP, players with fucking loading times, multiple profile versions, and the shitstorms that happen with BD-Live.

...
 

Nemo

Will Eat Your Children
B!TCH said:
VHS? The DVD era is also over as far as I'm concerned.

Only Blu-Ray and digital downloads in my house.
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It's Blu-ray
 
Look at you nancies with your "only Blu-ray in my house, lol". There's nothing better than digging through stacks of obscure horror movies on VHS, getting wasted and watching them in all their cheap and dirty glory. I'm not against progressive technology by any stretch of the imagination, but there's a certain warmth and grit to beat up analog that you just don't get from digital.
 

neight

Banned
wenis said:
How many months until trendy hipsters decide the vhs tape is awesome and start demanding it be brought back like polaroids?

oh the irony....how i hate you.
The only good aspect I think VHS warrants is that the format had Hi-Fi audio which is quality comparable to PCM. Otherwise VHS was the worst of the three formats back then, Betamax and Laserdisc were better. Laserdisc was a much more awesome format in that period which sometimes still stood up to DVD considering it had no compression artifacts.
 

EctoPrime

Member
I have revived mine with a digital set top box plus an 8 hour tape (4h sp) . Tv stations seem to progam better shows at midnight for some reason ie: Lost, Scrubs, movies before 1995. The picture quality of a recorded show is easily that of a store bought tape plus you can record in widescreen if needed.

I should stop being cheap and buy a Dvr with twin HD tuners though.
 
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Deleted member 17706

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faceless007 said:
Good riddance.

Also, Blu-Ray can DIAF. I have no interest in a format with HDCP, players with fucking loading times, multiple profile versions, and the shitstorms that happen with BD-Live.

What's all that about?

I just picked up my first Blu-ray drive when I built my new computer early last week and I have been watching movies on the format ever since. I haven't had any problems with load times or anything else. I just put in the disc and go like a normal DVD. I'll be getting a PS3 early next year and after that I will probably never rent / purchase another DVD again unless it isn't available on Blu-ray.
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
recordable VHS will still be around for a while to come, i'll bet.

as far as movies go, DVD is pretty much past its peak, its downhill from here.

DVD will always be used as a storage medium, however. VHS would be too if every computer were able to store information on it.
 

besada

Banned
As someone who didn't have VHS available until he was 8 or 9, I can only say that it changed the way we dealt with media in a more profound way than DVD ever will. DVD was simply a refinement (and a great one) of the ability to record television and replace film as a live recording format.

I don't exactly miss it, because it was so deeply flawed, but it served us well, and deserves a tip of the hat.
 

Jewbacca

Banned
omg rite said:
:lol Keep telling yourself that.

It won't be DEAD in 3/4 years, but it will be like VHS was a few years ago.


Yea but you will start to see some decline in sales and blu-ray will do one of three things. Stay where it is, get wtfpwned by digital distribution or start to eat away at DVD sales.

A combonation of the first to senarios is possible.
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
GrotesqueBeauty said:
Look at you nancies with your "only Blu-ray in my house, lol". There's nothing better than digging through stacks of obscure horror movies on VHS, getting wasted and watching them in all their cheap and dirty glory. I'm not against progressive technology by any stretch of the imagination, but there's a certain warmth and grit to beat up analog that you just don't get from digital.


AND IT BEGINS........
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
omg rite said:
Yeah sorry, but no, this isn't wrong.

Technology moves MUCH faster now, and if you think DVD is going to last as long as VHS, or even for another 10 years, you're delusional.
I agree with this. The adoption of hd videos and media will come quicker due to the switch to hd as the standard broadcasting format.

GrotesqueBeauty said:
Look at you nancies with your "only Blu-ray in my house, lol". There's nothing better than digging through stacks of obscure horror movies on VHS, getting wasted and watching them in all their cheap and dirty glory. I'm not against progressive technology by any stretch of the imagination, but there's a certain warmth and grit to beat up analog that you just don't get from digital.
here we go.
 

Zero Hero

Member
lol at the DVD fanboy! VHS ain't goin' nowhere, son. It looks just as good on my TV!
I would never use my PS2 as a DVD player because that is not what the machine is intended for.
 
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