ozz ex machina
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Live longer, healthier longer, will have to work longer. It's all relative.
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Life expectancy to break 90 barrier by 2030 (US has lowest life expectancy)
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Live longer, healthier longer, will have to work longer. It's all relative.
They look like they're 20 until they're 50, then they look 100.
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In the future 70 will be the new 50.
Bigboss242
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Yay America
PHOENIXZERO
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Nah, longer life expectancy probably isn't going to stop menopause.
gutter_trash
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The wealthiest country in the history of the world, my friend.
Obliterator
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I'm fully expecting to die by 60 and will be shocked if I make it to that. I actually live a healthy lifestyle but am a massive hypochondriac. Let's hope I'm wrong
SolarPowered
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Damn, even the men from other countries may come to outlive US women.
#mess
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What if rich people in the future will live in habitats closer to the sun so time passes slower to them? Then they could be technically 70 while having only aged 50 years of "normal" time.
yanipheonu
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Is it still the case that the lower male expectancy is due to men tending to die from more risky behaviour? Or are there other factors?
TheLaughingStock
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Automation will take care of it. Non issue.
Paracelsus
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More strain on the body from more physically demanding jobs. Also more alcohol and smoking?
hydragonwarrior
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Fake news time from Trump.
John Kowalski
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Greatest Nation in the World
and put some respeck on it.
The Salt Life
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My landlord, Italian woman, 96 years old, lively as all hell and still goes with her parish to help build churches in Mexico, god bless her soul.
Cancer is one explanation. Many fold more of funding is spent in female dominated cancers compared to male ones, males have ~10% higher incidence, and male cancer related deaths often occur earlier than female cancer related deaths. For instance - Skin Cancer:
RumblingRosco
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American here but I'm much healthier than the average (BMI, body composition, blood panel tests, average sleep, activity level, etc). So, I hope to beat that average significantly and work into my 80s, if I'm lucky.
BadenBadenLily
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Higher risk of heart disease is the biggest factor.
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GasProblem
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There are plans here to up the retirement age based on life expentency. Looked up what my retirement age would be. It would be 73 and 6 months. Welp.
You severely underestimate the production out of those 40 years. There is enough money in the economy, for now at least. For the future you can look at automatization and better financial insight as solutions.
Best would to differentiate on build up capital and job but right now it would probably not work with people hiding their money.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Our poor life expectancy is largely caused by the fact that we have way more murders than the rest of these nations, not our bad health care system.
PdotMichael
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Well, tell the construction worker with broken knees and whatnot he is supposed to work 10 years longer.
IThe effiency of the working force is the deciding factor here and with the massive increasement in the past decades and in the coming decades, supporting more people for a longer time isn't really the society destroying thing.
dragonelite
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We get older sure but in a less functional body. If they can guarantee they could keep people body up to a certain standard people
Wouldn't mind working longer.
I'm 27 and I already have friends of the same age that have multiple knee or back issues and they still need to work 40 more years. Hell my dad is 61 his body is at the edge of being broken from physical labor. I'm lucky I sit behind a desk I could work till my brain stop functioning or slowing down significantly.
Oh, wow. That's fascinating! Thanks for sharing.
She talks kind of slow so I set the speed to 1.25x haha
Angelus Errare
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Part of that can be explained in the huge difference in men and women skincare. Most dudes don't really care about skincare past rubbing a wash cloth on their face/body then walking out the door.
Possumowner
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Go America 🤔 Don't worry us in the UK will catchup soon
PdotMichael
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Suncream and no smoking are the only things which somehow reduce the risk of skincancer.
That's what I think as well, its not like you are going to be youthful when you reach those ages. A lot of elderly people past a certain point begin to welcome death, not necessarily because they're suicidal but because they realise we all have to die sometime and they've already lived the majority of their life.
Living too old past 70s kind of scares me. I feel like death would constantly be on my mind and you would have to deal with the death of friends, family and other people you know.
mercenar1e
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Retiring at 70 or 80 is insane. Most of your friends and family will be gone and you'll be too tired to walk around and enjoy the time you have left.
If people are living to 90+, I don't see how retiring at 70 is so crazy. The social security nets around the world were not built to handle people going 30+ years without work after retiring, they would collapse at the current rate.
Moose Biscuits
It would be extreamly painful...
America's just ahead of the curve, they realise that having a huge population of old biddies knocking about is a massive resource drain, so they've implemented a lower soft age cap via enjoyable food and guns.
Other countries meanwhile are misguidedly trying to make their populations live forever, and since they'll probably ban all the fun ways of shortening your lifespan they'll have to institute some kind of Logan's Run-type system to cull the old people plague.
Other countries meanwhile are misguidedly trying to make their populations live forever, and since they'll probably ban all the fun ways of shortening your lifespan they'll have to institute some kind of Logan's Run-type system to cull the old people plague.
Monocle
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Still hilariously accurate.You haven't gotten this memo?
BladeoftheImmortal
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There's more than enough money if we tax a certain group of people.
Frankie Williamson
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Only people working in offices think that 65 isn't a reasonable age to retire.
You can only work labour jobs so long before you can't.
You can only work labour jobs so long before you can't.
Moose Biscuits
It would be extreamly painful...
Don't worry, I work in an office and I think it's reasonable.
If I get to 65 (lol) and I'm having to face working another 20-30 years, I'm ending myself or quitting. Might even waste a bunch of resources in the process, out of spite.
At birth is a bit misleading since it's heavily influenced by child mortality... which is much higher in the US due to the Republican crusade to defund anything that might allow abortions.
Especially when talking about retirement ages that's a problem because a lot of the life expectancy increase over the past years was a reduction of infant deaths which obviously have zero influence on the retirement system.
Infant mortality rates (per thousand):
Especially when talking about retirement ages that's a problem because a lot of the life expectancy increase over the past years was a reduction of infant deaths which obviously have zero influence on the retirement system.
Infant mortality rates (per thousand):
Huw_Dawson
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Better medical care will make things easier in general, but health and social care for the elderly has to become far better in the next fifteen years.
Goodbye state pensions.
I can't see how we will still have them by the time I retire. They'll be slowly phased out over time.
The first steps have already begun here in the UK. Workplace pensions are now mandatory, that means you HAVE to put aside a percentage of your income every month, and your employer HAS to match that percentage with an equal pay-in. I mean, that's good sense anyway, but I can't help but feel it's the first step to making people pay for their own retirement from their savings and withdrawing state pensions.
I can't see how we will still have them by the time I retire. They'll be slowly phased out over time.
The first steps have already begun here in the UK. Workplace pensions are now mandatory, that means you HAVE to put aside a percentage of your income every month, and your employer HAS to match that percentage with an equal pay-in. I mean, that's good sense anyway, but I can't help but feel it's the first step to making people pay for their own retirement from their savings and withdrawing state pensions.
Hold on to your taxes, as forget world war, unless countries (not all) come up with a solution to social care of the elderly, it will be this that collapses a country.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39040146
Best healthcare system in the world. Canadians die in waiting rooms. People from all over the world come to the US to get treatment.
What a joke.
Meus Renaissance
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Life expectancy of the OP was even shorter.
KillerMan91
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If I have read right half of it is biological (women just live longer) and half is lifestyle (men smoke more, drink more, eat more shit and die more in accidents).
A serious case needs to be made at quality of life vs life saving techniques. The last 18 months of my Grandfather's life were spent in a slow decaying downward spiral of care giving that had no quality of life. Just pain and despair as he lost his ability to care for himself. Medicine can keep people alive until 90, but its not very good at keeping people healthy that old. Whether or not life saving treatments should be given past a certain age or health state really needs to be considered.
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