Familienoberhauptvogel
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Yeah I don't wanna overcommit to them in fish as well. Makes KCommand way too good.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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Yeah I don't wanna overcommit to them in fish as well. Makes KCommand way too good.
Infinite Stars
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I mean, I did get to have the following happen to me, so I might be a bit biased on the "this is good" point:
DSJ vs D&T: Board was Death's Shadow/ Goyf for him, I had Vial on 2, Arbiter, and Copter in play.
Opponent: K-Command, Targetting Copter and Arbiter.
Me: Response, Vial, Selfless Spirit, Crew Copter using Spirit, Sack Spirit.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
This right there is why I am constantly considering a white splash. Selfless Spirit in the side and Spellqueller would fit fish needs so well and there are a couple slots for honorary merfolk.
But in the end it's almost never worth it.
People look at me funny when it hits the battlefield in my 8-Whack deck, but it does work. Nothing like discarding lands while you dig for a Bushwhacker or Goblin Grenade.
FreedomFrisbee
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The problem with vehicles is that they're colorless. That they jumped immediately to the colorless option on vehicles and equipment was just asking for trouble. New card type, don't know how to balance it perfectly, give every deck access to it. It's happened multiple times now. Why not make them colored? Because artifact? What logic is that? Maro is great at his job and everything, but at some point him not being able to balance things leads to these problems.
Would Rhonas be an ok 1 of in Jund DS or is he just too expensive? Dodge's fatal push, unlike the rest of the deck, (although they can turn him off if they have push I guess) gives mini Temur BRages to let your team swing through souls, can be searched up off traverse, is almost always online when any other creature is on the board, etc.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Harder to activate and the stats are kinda odd.
hmmmmmmm
SigmasonicX
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Harder to activate and the stats are kinda odd.
As a design, I think he's more interesting than the other gods.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I dare you make to this card work, I couldn't.
that look is golden every time.
It's more about it gives you the 1/1 you need to sac to make him active. Also any other threats you have that get iced turn him on
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
*conditions applies only if iced before declare attackers
Smugs is great in modern. People will realize it soon enough. It's even better these days since there are less decays/kcommands/bolts played. I'm a huge fan of vechiles and I'm happy that they got pushed.
yep which puts the work solely on you - which is why hidden stockpile can get you there for the low low cost of 1.
Infinite Stars
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Okay, so the Red Drop definitely feels like it's the Red "Iconic Two Drop" for Modern that's 1 and a color. The real question is when will we get the White one freed/another White one made?
No, Thalia is not what I mean. #FreeMystic or give us an iconic White Card that's in theme for this cycle.
he's just underpowered for what he asks from the player. Unless you play a deck specifically tailored around his ability and limitations, why would you not just play the green god instead
or the white god, since you already need creatures anyway. But they sort of work together, unlike R/U
I assume they deemed menace to be too powerful on a invincible god card to make him easier to activate
my gods ranking: green > blue = white > red > black
or the white god, since you already need creatures anyway. But they sort of work together, unlike R/U
I assume they deemed menace to be too powerful on a invincible god card to make him easier to activate
my gods ranking: green > blue = white > red > black
Imperfected
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That's about where I'm at. I'd bump Oketra up to clean second if Ally of Zendikar wasn't a thing, maybe, and Hezoret up a spot if they actually printed respectable burn.
Imperfected
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Yeah, but they've usually been busted in exciting new ways, not just straight up printing Artifact Creatures most people wish they could have on-curve in colored mana.
Like, Scrapheap Scrounger is just sort of an egregious little fucker, isn't he?
divisionbyzorro
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I actually think people are overrating the green one. Cheap big dudes aren't exactly a rarity in green these days. If midrange creature decks become good again I wouldn't be surprised to see it pop up as a one-of, but beefy creatures historically get overrated and I think it's a mistake to get super excited for the green one. I think the blue one is the best by far.
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Anyone here going to the Sydney Team Limited GP in June?
A probably pretty minor point is that of the monuments, two of them act as direct enablers to let the respective God attack, one of them does indirectly, and two of them don't at all. In fact Rhona's monument seems to make it pretty trivial to make him into an attacker as long as you cast a creature with 2+ power.
Imperfected
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I mean, I think people are pretty correctly identifying that the blue god's activation requirement is a little bit much. If you're sitting on seven cards late in the game you either don't need him or he isn't going to save you, depending on how you got into that scenario.
He's still got Flying and he's still got card draw, so that's a serious bump over the others just in flat utility on the card, but that activation requirement makes it pretty hard to get enthusiastic about him.
ThLunarian
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Glyph Keeper
3UU
Creature - Sphinx
Flying
Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability for the first time in a turn, counter that spell or ability.
Embalm 5UU
This guy screams "Solid"
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
What's with blue getting so many flying beaters?
Blue god is the easiest tech'd against
Blue god is the easiest tech'd against
card is solid anyways
Glyph Keeper
3UU
Creature - Sphinx
Flying
Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability for the first time in a turn, counter that spell or ability.
Embalm 5UU
Nice, pretty resilient and even if you kill it, it comes back. I like it.
divisionbyzorro
Member
That's a damn good card.
Joke? That'd be waay too good at instant.
A man can dream.
Starstorm was an instant. Even costs 3 to cycle!
only 3 toughness? Dies to any removal
Glyph Keeper
3UU
Creature - Sphinx
Flying
Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability for the first time in a turn, counter that spell or ability.
Embalm 5UU
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sweltering suns is great as well, so much for radiant flames. I wouldn't exactly call this a low-power set anymore
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The one time Tower won a GP was with maindeck KReturns and no way to trigger the 2nd half.
The cycling does alleviate the sorcery speed issue a bit but sorceries are still bad in a vehicle meta.
Would i rather have beatsticks or an insta win combo?
divisionbyzorro
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I know they don't do this, but they need to rewrite the way vehicles work. Functionally granting all of your creatures haste is broken as shit. "Summoning sick" creatures should not be able to crew vehicles.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
They could also just made a wrath that hits them
2WW Roadblock
Sorcery
Destroy all tapped creatures and vehicles.
divisionbyzorro
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I like Vehicles, and I think they could add a lot to future world building if used correctly. Part of the problem is that they made the same mistakes that they did with Equipment the first time (making them too damn good because they wanted the new thing to be splashy and cool), but functionally granting haste is something that they would just have to tiptoe around going forward. I do agree that the answers need to be better, but as it stands right now Vehicles are an interesting concept that will never leave Kaladesh because the core mechanic is just too strong.
SigmasonicX
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Don't know the source, but:
Sweltering Suns 1RR
Sorcery (Rare)
Sweltering Suns deals 3 damage to each creature.
Cycling 3
Red's getting all the goodies
This one set doesn't make up for how they've been treating my favorite color recently, but I'm very excited about Amonkhet now.
EDIT: I like how you can cycle this and then flash it back with Dwellers.
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