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Man caught putting soda into water cup, hits manager with car, gets felony charge
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Mainly cause they don't want to pay your medical bills. Working retail I'm fine with that. What they pay me is not worth risking physical harm trying to stop a thief (my store also has the policy of we're not allowed to stop a thief which is good cause I'm not going to try).
McDonald's used that rule (not allowed to stop a thief) to do things like deny workers comp on a guy who saved a female customer from getting shot by her abusive bf (he ended up getting shot imatead). They pretty much said what he did was against policy so they weren't liable (I still think it is sucky in that case as he was being a Good Samaritan and it stopped some one from being harmed, not just something getting stolen). Given that I'm sure the manager was going against store policy. This has come up before with McD's. And if he was injured McD's would deny worker's comp.
Thank you! Sorry for the trouble.
TheOohChild
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I used to do that all the time in high school, minus the running someone over with your car part.
Alebrije
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usually not, which is why people do things like this.
Manager blinked, they did not. I'd say getting hit by a car you are trying to block in with your body is getting your bluff called pretty hard.
The Jackdog
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manager was way overzealous
these dudes were morons.
everyone is morons.
these dudes were morons.
everyone is morons.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Because he risked his life for about .50, most likely broke company rules as well. So you think that it was a completely rational response to do what the manager did?
He's literally risking his life over a 1.50. How does he know if the kid had a gun or what? McDonalds and other companies even tell their employees not to do stupid stunts like this.
The Jackdog
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honest question, if someone is blocking your car with their body not letting you leave, what are your options?
1. get out and move them, physically most likely hurting them.
2. hit them, physically most likely hurting them.
3. let them get their way and not go anywhere?
i know these guys were stealing and idiots and stuff, im genuinely curious
1. get out and move them, physically most likely hurting them.
2. hit them, physically most likely hurting them.
3. let them get their way and not go anywhere?
i know these guys were stealing and idiots and stuff, im genuinely curious
HUELEN10
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How? Jesus wept...
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Get out of the car, apologize for being an idiot and give the guy his $1.50 would be option #4
#sorrynotsorry
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No it's not false imprisonment. A store manager can hold someone they know committed a crime. It gets tricky when it's just suspicion.
Call the police. Obviously doesn't work if you just committed a crime.
Ray Wonder
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peg him in the face with 6 quarters and he'll go away
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He's white
Glendemonium
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If there is anything I've learned about bad kids like that growing up is they'd probably do anything to avoid spending a buck-fifty. The manager could of just called the police and get the plate number instead of standing there expecting juveniles to do the right thing.
Its a nasty thing for me to say, but I've seen it way too many times. They chose to learn life lessons the hard way.
DOWN
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It was a misleading swipe at McDonald's
Is he? I have no idea. Teen describes this kid's maturity level a lot more than man, so thought it was appropriate.
I don't really know what's worse: stealing fountain soda from McDonald's or the manager making that soda the hill he dies on. Running over the manager was definitely a bad look though, as I'm sure the cops wouldn't have really cared much over a few bucks of sugar water lost or the penalty being all that harsh.
User 73706
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Yup. What they always drilled into us at the convenience store was never do anything physical to try to stop a robbery of any kind. Guy was reckless and got hurt.
Squirrel Killer
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I find it hard to believe that you legitimately don't know why people would take you to task over "Teen hit with felony charges after putting soda into his water cup at McDonald's," but I'll play your game.
Felony charges are wildly disproportionate for stealing a couple of cups of soda, yet those are the only things you mention in the title. Seeing such a crazy title prompts people to wonder what the fuck went on, i.e. total clickbait bullshit. In reality, stealing the soda didn't prompt the felony charges, it was what the kid did after he was confronted by the manager. If the kid just left the stolen soda in the restaurant, probably nothing else would have happened. If the kid took off running, the manager might have let him go or chased him, either resulting in little else happening. If the kid threw the soda at the manager, maybe there would be a misdemeanor assault charge. But what happened is that the kid got in to his car (fine,) the manager blocked the car in with his body (dumb, probably against company policy, but whatever,) and then the kid decided, "Nope, I ain't gettin' banned from another Micky D's, blow wheels!" and then ran over the manager with his car. At that point, it's not at all about stolen soda, it's vehicular assault and the charges are completely warranted.
But if you actually said that, you wouldn't get clicks.
Thanks for that. I think the part I screwed up on was putting felony in there. I did not realize how serious those type of charges were versus others. That made the thread title much more misleading than I intended.
Zoe
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What I came in here to say!
Walter White Walker
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Yeah, that was a lot of bad decisions all around.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I don't go to McD's regularly, but I find this pretty hard to believe. Maybe it's a regional thing, because I live near NYC and there's pretty much no fast food place around where you will spend less than $2 on a soda.
Zoe
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In Texas and Louisiana (as far as I can recall), it's $1 for any size drink.
Yeah, which makes it even funnier. I think any large drink is $1 at McDs
esmith08734
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Everyone involved is an idiot. Standing in front of some dude's car over $1.49 soda at a fast food restaurant? Proceeding to mow the overzealous manager down? Lol, Christ.
I'm guessing if he was able to reach around and try to get the key out of the ignition they weren't really trying to run him over either. That's not something you usually do after narrowly escaping with your life. Though most likely the lawyer will spin it that way regardless because $$$. Either way in the US the kid is screwed over 1.49.
And if he gets injured McD's will refuse worker's comp. They've done it before when an employee stepped in a domestic abuse issue happening in a store and got injured (shot with 300,000 dollar hospital bill: http://www.newser.com/story/51290/mcdonalds-wont-pay-hospital-bills-of-hero-employee.html). McD's refused to pay for his medical bills (and this was a guy stepping in to prevent harm to another person, not just prevent theft).
I'd say the manager was foolish to try to stop the person over a drink. He's not getting paid enough and he will be the one risking the hospital bills and McDs pretty much has already stated they'd prefer taking the loss from thieves than the injury bills from employees trying to stop thieves.
As a retail slave, I actually have to say this is one incidence where I think capitalism and our sucky/expensive healthcare works in my favor. I don't want to risk injury to stop a thief (especially not with my pay) and my store doesn't want me to either so I don't even feel pressured that I have to. And I have no illusions that my company has that policy cause they care about me getting hurt (my direct managers would but I doubt corporate has that policy cause of that, we're just numbers to them). They just don't want to pay any worker's comp (or also if I'm an idiot about it lawsuit from the people I tried to stop).
Doug Heffernan
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The soda theft led to the car assault and is absolutely relevant to the story.
Squirrel Killer
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The original title mentioned nothing about the car assault.
uncredited male
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Clicked for a video. Leaves a sad panda.
HUELEN10
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He didn't do what is recommended, but he wasn't in the wrong. He blocked, didn't punch or nothing. Isn't this victim blaming?
The way I look at it is the manager did nothing wrong but he was foolish cause he really had nothing to gain from doing it and a lot to lose. If he stops them, he sends a message to other thieves and that's about it. He doesn't stop the store from losing the product (which probably cost all of less than a buck for what htey pay). They already poured it and he cannot resell it anyways.
If he fails he gets injured, the store still loses that product, thieves manage to get away, and he has to pay for the medical bills. McDonald's has already proven in history (I've mentioned it twice now) that they will not pay the medical bills in this case cause they'll lean on their rule that you are not supposed to do this to say it was not part of his job. They may even fire him (Home Depot did just that at least one time) as McDonald's doesn't even want him to do that and they don't want others to think they're not serious about that (because he may sue and even if he loses they have to pay some court costs).
The reward really isn't worth the risk for him. The best he can hope for is some thieves didn't get away with some small time theft (and his company may still be peeved at him. The home depot guy successfully stopped the thief, Home Depot still sacked him until they caved to the PR outrage). Yes, thieves are annoying and it is annoying to let them get away. But it really isn't worth it. I think I had a manager who had a good attitude about it (we had really really lax rules on returns at the time and thieves would try to return stolen product to get money back). She pretty much was of the attitude that the store obviously didn't care as they refused to even let her refuse a return so she wasn't going to spend too much time caring about it either (basically it's on corporate and if they don't care don't let yourself get too bothered by it. In this case it would have helpd the manager too... just pin it on well corporate doesn't want me to stop them so they're the ones eating the loss.. oh well).
Stupid on both ends. Dumb kid should have just paid for the drink and dumb manager shouldn't stand behind a vehicle that can run him over for $1.49 soda being stolen (Just get the license plate # if you're that much of a soda crusader).
No one comes out looking particularly smart in this situation.
No one comes out looking particularly smart in this situation.
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No authority, sure. But what was false? I mean is that how that law works?
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