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Media Create Sales 1/28 - 2/3

Lightning

Banned
Magicpaint said:
PSone and PSTwo came rather late in the respective lifespans of both consoles (and somehow, I think the redesign thing is more of a handheld luxury), I wouldn't bank on it. :p
Stop posting!

The PS3 system is not in the PSone or PS2 situation therefore I am sure Sony will take the required steps and do it SOON.
 

donny2112

Member
Hesemonni said:
I'M POSTING FAMITSU NUMBERS!!!!!1!!½½

DSL 57000PSP 72000Wii 83000PS3 21000PS2 9800360 2900

1WiiSuper Smash Bros Brawl 266000(10820002PSPGiren no Yabou Axis no Kyoui 1080003WiiWii Fit 7600013750004.PS3Devil May Cry 4 360002490005NDSMario & Sonic DS 250002020006WiiWii Sports 1800027320007NDSL The Prologue to Death Note 170008PS2Tales of Destiny Director's Cut 170001140009NDSMario Party DS 160001592000
10WiiWii Play 150002183000

...

Seriously people, use the ... spacebar on your keyboard. EVEN IF you copy paste it from elsewhere. It makes the whole thing a lot more readable.

If you think you can do better in a more timely manner, then do it yourself.
 
donny2112 said:
Do you even bother to look at the original post he is tranlsating from before decrying the format? If you want to complain about the formatting, complain to the user who posted at the 2ch boards in the original Japanese.
Awesome...
 

Hesemonni

Banned
donny2112 said:
Do you even bother to look at the original post he is tranlsating from before decrying the format? If you want to complain about the formatting, complain to the user who posted at the 2ch boards in the original Japanese.
That really hurt :(
 

Lobster

Banned
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Famitsu numbers

DSL 57000
PSP 72000
Wii 83000
PS3 21000
PS2 9800
360 2900

1. [Wii] Super Smash Bros Brawl 266000(1082000)
2. [PSP] Giren no Yabou Axis no Kyoui 108000
3. [Wii] Wii Fit 76000(1375000)
4. [PS3] Devil May Cry 4 36000(249000)
5. [NDS] Mario & Sonic DS 25000(202000)
6. [Wii] Wii Sports 18000(2732000)
7. [NDS] L The Prologue to Death Note 17000
8. [PS2] Tales of Destiny Director's Cut 17000(114000)
9. [NDS] Mario Party DS 16000(1592000)
10. [Wii] Wii Play 15000(2183000)

Other new titles
27.Coded Arms Contagion 6100
...Major 5300
...Convoy PS3 3600
...Battlestations Midway 2300
...Onechanbara Wii 2200
...Convoy PS2 2100
...Princess Maker 5 1000

Other titles
11.Family Ski 14000(38000)
12.Assasin's Creed 14000(51000)
13.Monster Hunter Portable 2 13000(1613000)
16.Mario Kart DS 12000(2834000)
17.Disgaea 3 12000(68000)
18.Layton 2 8200(746000)
19.New Super Mario Bros 7000(5083000)
20.Devil May Cry 4 360 7000(47000)
21.Mario & Sonic Wii 6600(505000)
23.Need For Speed ProStreet PS3 6400(26000)
24.Super Mario Galaxy 6300(867000)
25.Doraemon Baseball 6200(158000)
26.Need For Speed ProStreet PS2 6100(22000)
29.Animal Crossing 5900(4585000)
30.Household Diary 5700(423000)

Family Ski = Success!

Lets see if it can break 50k now, or even 100k.
 

donny2112

Member
Hesemonni said:
That really hurt :(

Then get the point! It's either been you or someone posting with a very similar message that sometimes rails against a poster, not in the original post, copying-and-pasting directly from the Japanese boards. The data eventually gets translated, but the main stuff (typically the hardware and Top 10) is ready for immediate discussion.

Just checking, but do you actually see Kurosaki Ichigo's post as a continuous line of data? I see it as individual lines for each game.

P.S. I don't actually want you to die. That would be a brief window into my immediate reaction to a post that usually doesn't make the transition to a board setting. One of the things I like about message boards is that it typically forces you to sit and think about what you are going to say before saying it.
 

Lightning

Banned
NintendosBooger said:
Would you even buy one or are you just being a Sony cheerleader?
I would replace my current PS3 with a slim just like I done with my PS2 last gen and I want to see higher PS3 sales so Square can release FFXIII sooner rather than later.
 

birdchili

Member
donny2112 said:
typically forces you to sit and think about what you are going to say before saying it.
that's a nice theory... i *still* wince sometimes looking back over stuff i managed to get past the "Submit Reply" phase. rereading is a friend.
 

Vinci

Danish
Lightning said:
I would replace my current PS3 with a slim just like I done with my PS2 last gen and I want to see higher PS3 sales so Square can release FFXIII sooner rather than later.

Higher PS3 sales will make S-E finish the game faster?
 

Vinci

Danish
birdchili said:
it seems reasonable that the game isn't getting tons of resources due to the slow uptake of the ps3.

Then ... it's never coming out? 'Cause isn't FF XIII pretty much THE biggest reason for people to buy the thing coming up? I mean, MGS will do some but it's not anywhere on the same level in Japan.
 

Lightning

Banned
Vinci said:
Higher PS3 sales will make S-E finish the game faster?
Square won't release it until the PS3 has sold enough units for FFXIII to sell to. The more the PS3 sucks, the longer Square will take with FFXIII.
 

donny2112

Member
Based on Hesemonni's edit at the top of this page, I'm starting to think he actually sees Kurosaki Ichigo's post like that.

DSL 57000PSP 72000Wii 83000PS3 21000PS2 9800360 2900

1WiiSuper Smash Bros Brawl 266000(10820002PSPGiren no Yabou Axis no Kyoui 1080003WiiWii Fit 7600013750004.PS3Devil May Cry 4 360002490005NDSMario & Sonic DS 250002020006WiiWii Sports 1800027320007NDSL The Prologue to Death Note 170008PS2Tales of Destiny Director's Cut 170001140009NDSMario Party DS 160001592000
10WiiWii Play 150002183000

I see it like this.

DSL 57000
PSP 72000
Wii 83000
PS3 21000
PS2 9800
360 2900

1. [Wii] Super Smash Bros Brawl 266000(1082000)
2. [PSP] Giren no Yabou Axis no Kyoui 108000
3. [Wii] Wii Fit 76000(1375000)
4. [PS3] Devil May Cry 4 36000(249000)
5. [NDS] Mario & Sonic DS 25000(202000)
6. [Wii] Wii Sports 18000(2732000)
7. [NDS] L The Prologue to Death Note 17000
8. [PS2] Tales of Destiny Director's Cut 17000(114000)
9. [NDS] Mario Party DS 16000(1592000)
10. [Wii] Wii Play 15000(2183000)

Hopefully, everyone's browser can see the difference between those two posts.

If that is the case, Hesemonni, I'm very sorry for flying off the handle before. If I saw it as a continuous line, I'd probably think the post was as useless as you said, as well.
 

birdchili

Member
Vinci said:
Then ... it's never coming out? 'Cause isn't FF XIII pretty much THE biggest reason for people to buy the thing coming up? I mean, MGS will do some but it's not anywhere on the same level in Japan.
it'll come out, of course. but se is going to put it off as long as possible so they can get a decent installed base to sell to. it's going to be very hard for the game to match already declining sales expectations for this series i would imagine.

it *is* a bit of an unfortunate chicken-and-egg situation for the ps3 though.
 
Lightning said:
Square won't release it until the PS3 has sold enough units for FFXIII to sell to. The more the PS3 sucks, the longer Square will take with FFXIII.

Where did you hear this? Do you even have a valid source to reinforce the theory that Square's "holding off" on FFXIII until PS3 sales reach a magical, GAF-conjured number?
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Indeed, 4/24 (I guess its from Famitsu or a magazine and Namco website will be updated on Friday). Going against Summon Night DS, Valkyrie of the Battlefield PS3 and Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu Portable 3 PSP.

Knowing Namco, they'll put Trusty Bell PS3 that same day too.


Well, aside from Mario Kart coming 2 weeks earlier, they should have the Wii space to themselves.
 

Vinci

Danish
birdchili said:
it'll come out, of course. but se is going to put it off as long as possible so they can get a decent installed base to sell to. it's going to be very hard for the game to match already declining sales expectations for this series i would imagine.

it *is* a bit of an unfortunate chicken-and-egg situation for the ps3 though.

That's what I'm saying though: With a series like Final Fantasy, people are going to buy the system to get the game; it's not like it's only going to sell to those who already have the PS3. Putting it off, thereby extending the game's development time and cost, doesn't make a lot of sense if the system's install base is largely dependent upon your game being released.

So yes, chicken-and-egg, but it seems like an unnecessary step for S-E to take.
 

KGKK

Banned
The way I see it, the PS3 will sell at least 500,000 consoles during the week that FFXIII releases. So it is destined to be a 2 million+ seller there.
 

Vinci

Danish
KGKK said:
The way I see it, the PS3 will sell at least 500,000 consoles during the week that FFXIII releases. So it is destined to be a 2 million+ seller there.

500,000? In a week?

Right.
 

AlternativeUlster

Absolutely pathetic part deux
KGKK said:
The way I see it, the PS3 will sell at least 500,000 consoles during the week that FFXIII releases. So it is destined to be a 2 million+ seller there.

By that time, who can't resist a $50 Ps3? I know I would bite.
 
KGKK said:
The way I see it, the PS3 will sell at least 500,000 consoles during the week that FFXIII releases. So it is destined to be a 2 million+ seller there.
Pff, you're lowballing. I say...


ONE MILLION PS3s

onemillion.jpg
 

fernoca

Member
Oblivion said:
Wow. Immense drop for SSBB. Bomba confirmed? :(
Yeah..
Same drop as New Super Mario Bros..and that also bombed..right? :p


And..
Wii 83000
PSP 72000
DSL 57000
PS3 21000
PS2 9800
360 2900

1. [Wii] Super Smash Bros Brawl 266000(1082000)
2. [PSP] Giren no Yabou Axis no Kyoui 108000
3. [Wii] Wii Fit 76000(1375000)
4. [PS3] Devil May Cry 4 36000(249000)
5. [NDS] Mario & Sonic DS 25000(202000)
6. [Wii] Wii Sports 18000(2732000)
7. [NDS] L The Prologue to Death Note 17000
8. [PS2] Tales of Destiny Director's Cut 17000(114000)
9. [NDS] Mario Party DS 16000(1592000)
10. [Wii] Wii Play 15000(2183000)
Fix'd...?
 

xaosslug

Member
so, like, now that Japan's got a second seemingly viable handheld option... what are developers gonna do?! Dual releases, port like crazy? OMG!
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
KGKK said:
The way I see it, the PS3 will sell at least 500,000 consoles during the week that FFXIII releases. So it is destined to be a 2 million+ seller there.

PS2 sales for the calendar month FF XII released; ~20k, ~55k, ~45k, ~35k, ~35k
PS2 sales for the calendar month FF X released; ~80k, ~90k, ~155k, ~105k, ~75k
PS1 sales for the calendar month FF IX released; ~15k, ~15k, ~17k, ~19k, ~19k
PS1 sales for the calendar month FF VIII released; ~85k, ~110k, ~50k, ~100k

I don't have data going back and I think that last set of numbers might be tainted because it comes from a backup of my spreadsheet before I color-coded my data sources. The first three are definitely from Josh's data.

Also;
PS2's five highest non-launch weeks ever; ~280k, ~200k, ~190k, ~175k, ~160k
Wii's three highest non-launch weeks ever; ~270k, ~240k, ~205k
PS3's three highest non-launch weeks ever; ~77k, ~69k, ~67k

So, your deduction is the following;
- The PS3 will sell almost double the PS2's highest week ever (as well as almost double the Wii's highest week ever and almost seven times as high as its highest week ever)
- FFXII will provide more than three times the bump that FFX, the highest hardware bumper FF ever, provided.
- FFXIII will provide a substantially bigger bump than FFVIII, a game that sold more in its first week than you predict FFXIII will lifetime.
 
Stumpokapow said:
PS2 sales for the calendar month FF XII released; ~20k, ~55k, ~45k, ~35k, ~35k
PS2 sales for the calendar month FF X released; ~80k, ~90k, ~155k, ~105k, ~75k
PS1 sales for the calendar month FF IX released; ~15k, ~15k, ~17k, ~19k, ~19k
PS1 sales for the calendar month FF VIII released; ~85k, ~110k, ~50k, ~100k

I don't have data going back and I think that last set of numbers might be tainted because it comes from a backup of my spreadsheet before I color-coded my data sources. The first three are definitely from Josh's data.


Bu bu but this time
PS3 sales for the calendar month of FFXIII ~500k ~450k ~425k ~375k


:)
 

Error

Jealous of the Glory that is Johnny Depp
PSP>DS again

doesnt surprise me, I bought the Slim model a couple of days ago and it rekindled my love for PSP.

PSP :bow
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
donny2112 said:
It's a full-priced game instead of a budget title.

Oneechanbara vorteX was full price. 7000 yen or something. Plus, EDF2017 was full price and it managed 11,500 on the 360 first week.

Some might argue that the drop in budget from Oneechanbara vorteX to Oneechanbara Revolution is high enough that the lower sales might make it worth it, but that seems sort of tenuous to me.
 
Stumpokapow said:
Oneechanbara vorteX was full price. 7000 yen or something. Plus, EDF2017 was full price and it managed 11,500 on the 360 first week.

Some might argue that the drop in budget from Oneechanbara vorteX to Oneechanbara Revolution is high enough that the lower sales might make it worth it, but that seems sort of tenuous to me.
360 Oneechanbara vorteX - 6800Y - 8,556
360 Oneechanbara vorteX (classics) - 2800Y - 3,266
Wii Oneechanbara Revolution - 5800Y - ~2,000

Those are around the numbers they pulled on PS2 too, so I doubt any of them has a budget.
 

darkgable

Banned
KGKK said:
The way I see it, the PS3 will sell at least 500,000 consoles during the week that FFXIII releases. So it is destined to be a 2 million+ seller there.


Now that's how you joke post fellow gaffers...
 
Busaiku said:
They don't have numbers for the PS3 NFS? I'm thinking it may have outsold the Wii one :lol .
Of course, being outsold by the Wii version of all versions just goes to show that there is indeed no justice in this video gaming world.

Lightning said:
Stop posting!

The PS3 system is not in the PSone or PS2 situation therefore I am sure Sony will take the required steps and do it SOON.
Well, they just had a redesign (although not a major one) I don't think we'll see one so soon.

Oblivion said:
Wow. Immense drop for SSBB. Bomba confirmed? :(
Yeah :(. We'll only get Wii... titles from here on.
 

pswii60

Member
Lightning said:
Stop posting!

The PS3 system is not in the PSone or PS2 situation therefore I am sure Sony will take the required steps and do it SOON.

Lightning, all your posts today have been so absolutely full of shit, I just don't know where to begin.
 

Lightning

Banned
pswii60 said:
Lightning, all your posts today have been so absolutely full of shit, I just don't know where to begin.
How about at the beginniing? And for the record, the slim is a mere hope not a actual expectation....

My comments in the PAL thread regarding DMC4 and Germany are accurate.

So please enlighten me where I am full of shit?
 

Vinnk

Member
Stumpokapow said:
Oneechanbara vorteX was full price. 7000 yen or something. Plus, EDF2017 was full price and it managed 11,500 on the 360 first week.

Some might argue that the drop in budget from Oneechanbara vorteX to Oneechanbara Revolution is high enough that the lower sales might make it worth it, but that seems sort of tenuous to me.

Yup, bad sales. They probably won't turn a profit on this game. But since they spent no money on ads, posters, etc. they probably won't lose a ton of money. The game is actually pretty fun and the engine they use for it looks a lot nicer than any of the PS2 games, so if they can recycle that for future titles it might have been a good investment.

Still, this game should have sold for 2,500yen or Whatever the Wii simple series is selling for. When you charge full price for a Wii game so close to the launch of Brawl, you are going to fail. I bought the game because I enjoyed it at Tokyo Game Show (where they had it set up on a small TV in the corner) but without playing it, it looks the same as the other games in the series that sold for 2000 yen.
 
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