andthebeatgoeson
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Media Create Sales 3/10 - 3/16
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Airkiru said:
Even with a crazy pricing (5100yen, SMG costs 5500yen) you should expect more. But how on earth do they think that Ninja Gaiden can sell for the same price as console Nintendo games or a SQEX handheld game?
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LiveFromKyoto
Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
What the heck happened there?
Laguna said:
Yeah, Time Hollow's sales are certainly disappointing. First Afterschool Boy, then Contra, now this. They just can't seem to find success, even in genres that other publishers have done tremendously well with on the DS.
Laguna said:
They didn't "kiddyfy" and change its genre -- it's a spinoff, that's all. And it didn't perform all that poorly, by the by. 27k sales on the first day of a series where the most recent two installments were Sakura Taisen 5 on PS2 (144k LTD) and Sakura Taisen 1&2 on PSP (21k LTD) seems like a pretty positive result.
Laguna said:
Airkiru said:
It's not like it's a particularly successful series in Japan (though yes, Dragon Sword is still underperforming considerably).
_Alkaline_
Member
Ninja Gaiden Dragon Swords WTF?!?
Donny + Joshua, I'm interested in a certain general statistic (3 to be exact).
Since the release of the Saturn and PSone, or any trackable period around that time up to last week, how many consoles (combined) sell each day, week, month and year in Japan? What's the handheld stat for that, and the combined stat? Thanks!
Since the release of the Saturn and PSone, or any trackable period around that time up to last week, how many consoles (combined) sell each day, week, month and year in Japan? What's the handheld stat for that, and the combined stat? Thanks!
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BishopLamont said:
How can you tell?
Laguna said:
I'm not the one incapable of recognizing the concept of spinoffs. Sure, you win, Sakura Taisen DS is not Sakura Taisen 6 and this surely diminished the game's sales potential. Meanwhile, Square Enix for some reason decided not to make Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker instead be Dragon Quest IX, and Crisis Core wasn't Final Fantasy XIV, and Metal Gear Acid wasn't Metal Gear Solid 4.
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RpgN
Junior Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I expected more from TOR. Maybe it will have strong legs instead? And Ninja Gaiden...Such a shame. It really looks good. I can't wait untill it gets a release in Europe.
Ps3 is having a huge decline again. For these kind of hardcore consoles, developers can only rely on western audience it seems. Unless a miracle happens.
Ninja Gaiden for the "wider audience" bomba, for some reason most people are seeing it as a cash-in regardless of the in-house development and positive impressions.
Time Hollow looks like another bump on the road for Konami on the DS in Japan. Bangai-O didn't do well either but it doesn't look like ESP was expecting much of it (I guess they realized they were aiming for a small audience... it did alright considering they only shipped 10k). I wonder how much of the other games were shipped, especially Dodgeball and to a lesser extent Sakura Taisen.
Time Hollow looks like another bump on the road for Konami on the DS in Japan. Bangai-O didn't do well either but it doesn't look like ESP was expecting much of it (I guess they realized they were aiming for a small audience... it did alright considering they only shipped 10k). I wonder how much of the other games were shipped, especially Dodgeball and to a lesser extent Sakura Taisen.
By looking at those first day sales it´s likely that Yakuza 3 will be out of Top10 if it doesn´t sell 35k-40k this week.
And how did Tales of Rebirth do compared to other Tales of releases on PSP? It doesn´t look like a hit to say the least but maybe it sells inline the other recent Tales of ports on PSP?
And how did Tales of Rebirth do compared to other Tales of releases on PSP? It doesn´t look like a hit to say the least but maybe it sells inline the other recent Tales of ports on PSP?
Segata Sanshiro
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I'm kind of interested to know how big NG's shipment was. I absolutely could not find it in this town. None of the stores got it.
For what it's worth:
I'm not so sure trying to make a Sakura Taisen 6 on-the-cheap, with most of the people behind the earlier games not available, would've resulted in much better sales. Regardless, though, the conscious decision was made to have this be a spinoff game (a mysterious dungeon instead of... however one chooses to precisely classify Sakura Taisen), and given that decision, these sales are pretty good.
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Game: System: 1st Week Sales:
Ninja Gaiden XBX 39,935
Ninja Gaiden Black XBX 3,886
Ninja Gaiden Sigma PS3 40,886NeonZ said:
I'm not so sure trying to make a Sakura Taisen 6 on-the-cheap, with most of the people behind the earlier games not available, would've resulted in much better sales. Regardless, though, the conscious decision was made to have this be a spinoff game (a mysterious dungeon instead of... however one chooses to precisely classify Sakura Taisen), and given that decision, these sales are pretty good.
Kurosaki Ichigo
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I'm surprised at the lack of comments for Armored Core FA. Take these LTDs into account:
- AC4 PS3 - 85k
- AC4 360 (released later) - 21k
ACFA has done 60k in its first day combining them, also sinobi mentions it had a stellar sell through.
Also Pokemon Ranger 2 beats the first one start (again, this is sinobi), for the week the original did 189k btw.
- AC4 PS3 - 85k
- AC4 360 (released later) - 21k
ACFA has done 60k in its first day combining them, also sinobi mentions it had a stellar sell through.
Also Pokemon Ranger 2 beats the first one start (again, this is sinobi), for the week the original did 189k btw.
Cheesemeister
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Defuser said:
Translation:
Please tell us what you think were the most interesting titles you played in 2007.
01. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd
02. [PSP] Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
03. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy
04. [NDS] Dragon Quest IV
05. [PS2] Super Robot Wars: Original Generations
06. [PS2] Persona 3: Fes
07. [NDS] Etrian Odyssey
08. [PS2] Ar Tonelico 2
09. [PS2] Fate/Stay Night [Realta Nua]
10. [360] Lost Odyssey
AnimeTheme
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ethelred said:
Stop arguing with him, or he will end up calling you a fanboy or something worse (or maybe he already did).
BishopLamont
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Games get a boost when their sequels get released.test_account said:
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Just in case anyone was still wondering about this...
Top10 Best Selling Titles in 2007 and released in 2007
1 PSP『Monster Hunter Portable 2nd』1,489,898
2 DS『Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon 2 (2 versions)』1,256,516
3 DS『Mario Party DS』1,232,644
4 Wii『Mario Party 8』1,053,934
5 DS『Dragon Quest IV』1,052,827
6 DS『Yoshi's Island DS』896,814
7 DS『Zelda Phantom Hourglass』839,395
8 Wii『Wii Fit』818,166
9 DS『Professor Layton and the Mysterious Town』765,758
10 PSP『Crisis Core Final Fantasy VII』753,939
MHP2G has no chance at all to lead 2008 chart. DQIX if released, Brawl, DQV, DQVI, Mario Kart Wii, Layton 3, Animal Crossing Wii...
Top10 Best Selling Titles in 2007 and released in 2007
1 PSP『Monster Hunter Portable 2nd』1,489,898
2 DS『Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon 2 (2 versions)』1,256,516
3 DS『Mario Party DS』1,232,644
4 Wii『Mario Party 8』1,053,934
5 DS『Dragon Quest IV』1,052,827
6 DS『Yoshi's Island DS』896,814
7 DS『Zelda Phantom Hourglass』839,395
8 Wii『Wii Fit』818,166
9 DS『Professor Layton and the Mysterious Town』765,758
10 PSP『Crisis Core Final Fantasy VII』753,939
MHP2G has no chance at all to lead 2008 chart. DQIX if released, Brawl, DQV, DQVI, Mario Kart Wii, Layton 3, Animal Crossing Wii...
BishopLamont
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I know it wasn't released in 2007 but did Wii Sports sell more then MHP2 in 2007?Kurosaki Ichigo said:
AnimeTheme
Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
No Wii Sports/Play? Or are they not counted at all?
DQ9 will surely beat everything, if only it can be released this year. For DQ5/6, Mario Kart, Layton 3 and MHP2G, I think they are pretty much in the same rank. AC is somewhat a wild card, because it can be a very different game on Wii from its DS counterpart.
Kurosaki Ichigo
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Yes, MHP2 was second overall, barely 2000 units above Wii Play btw.BishopLamont said:
Top100 2007 here
pd: released in 2007 AnimeTheme
Stumpokapow
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Decent start for Deca Sports. Between Scamco and Hudson, it looks like third parties are carving out a niche for B-grade sports titles on the system :lol
Pokemon Ranger 2 might make a million. The first installment did 650 on an opening week of 190k. If PR2 has an opening day of 190, I project lifetime sales of anywhere from 750-1.2 mln. On one hand, PR2 opened in a fairly crowded field (Children of Mana, Sudoku Gridmaster, Starfi 4, Tetris DS all within a few weeks of either side) but on the other hand the DS had a lot less around then so a meh-tier title like PR2 might have had more appeal.
I guess we'll see how it ends up enduring going forward.
Pokemon Ranger 2 might make a million. The first installment did 650 on an opening week of 190k. If PR2 has an opening day of 190, I project lifetime sales of anywhere from 750-1.2 mln. On one hand, PR2 opened in a fairly crowded field (Children of Mana, Sudoku Gridmaster, Starfi 4, Tetris DS all within a few weeks of either side) but on the other hand the DS had a lot less around then so a meh-tier title like PR2 might have had more appeal.
I guess we'll see how it ends up enduring going forward.
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BishopLamont said:
True, but how often are earlier games in a serie re-released this close to a sequel? I.e, did Super Mario Sunshine get a boost due to the release of Super Mario Galaxy (did it chart within the top 50?)? And did Nintendo release a Best Price alternative for Super Mario Sunshine "just" before the release of SMG? I'm not that familiar on how game stores in Japan works, but i'm under the impression that older games arent easily avalible in stores generally, atleast not new copies.
I dont think its a coincidence that Yakuza 2 The Best was released "just" before the release of Yakuza 3. I think it was released before Yakuza 3 not only to sell well, but also to boost/hype the interest for Yakuza 3. I'd say that there is a chance that people picked up Yakuza 2 for the first time when The Best release was released (its also only about 1890 yen). Then there might be a chance that people will really like the game which can result in them wanting to buy Yakuza 3 as well.
Personally i dont think that Yakuza 3 will stay as long as Yakuza 2 The Best within the top 50 though, but i dont complete rule out that it might stay there for a while, with one factor to that would be the release of Yakuza 2 The Best. Its also been just 2 weeks so its way too early to tell.
BishopLamont
Banned
Games like the original Layton and MHP got a boost when their sequel got released and I'm sure there's more, I just can't think of any right now. PS3 games don't have much legs, people who bought Yakuza 2 and wanted Yakuza 3 would've bought the game already. Sure there might be a few that will buy Yakuza 3 in the future because of Yakuza 2, but the chances are the same for any series and they'd be in the minority and is virtually negligible. You can't use SMS and SMG as an example, they're released years apart.test_account said:
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BishopLamont said:
Devil May Cry 3 got released as a Special Edition relatively close to DMC4, so maybe DMC3 is also a game that saw a boost due to DMC4 (or maybe it sold good because of the Special Edition stuff). Other than that and those you mentioned i cant remember anyone more myself.
True what you say, PS3 games (so far atleast) dont really have long legs, and i do agree that most people who wanted Yakuza 3 have probly bought it already. Also true that it goes for most series, but i think it might be alittle different if a re-release get released close to the release of the sequel. Maybe then people get hyped more than if they played Yakuza 2 like 2-3 years ago. If they have finished Yakuza 2 recently for the first time they have the opporunity to get a sequel quick and not wait for a couple of years or so. It might be a different situation, but that is just my guess
I'm not expecting huge sales over the next couple of weeks or anything, but i was wondering on how long it was going to chart. 50th place in the top 50 might be like 1000 units or so, so i would say its too impossible that Yakuza 3 can chart for some weeks to come. We'll see soon enough anyway