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Media Create Sales 3/17 - 3/23
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yurinka
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kswiston said:
Well, In Famitsu reported the game (and the pack) was sold-out in a few hours in the main stores. They did some detailed reports yesterday, follow the links in the text of this post to see the Famitsu sources:
http://capcom-town.es/2008/03/27/colas-en-el-lanzamiento-de-monster-hunter-portable-2nd-g/
Worldwide there were 10+ million sellers in PSP the last time I searched (a few months ago).
Seeing only the japanese sales, as I remember this is the third million seller, the others were MHP and MHP2nd. I don't know the FFVII Crisis Core LTD sales.
yurinka said:
Ugh, no. They are designing MH3 to actually use the hardware of the Wii. Wii > GCN > PS2 >= PSP
yurinka said:
Please share where you searched at.
yurinka said:
Monster Hunter Portable 2 is the only million seller on the PSP in Japan. Monster Hunter Portable 2G should join it very soon.
blitz64
Member
I am surprise that the ps3/wii numbers are tracking so close to last year. But in the US, the ps3 is doing 50% better than last year according to npd. Does the japanese don't care about HD gaming or blueray? Looking at gundum mosou which is a 1 year old game, its going to do better or just as good on the ps2. Don't these people want to play the new games on a ps3 or they think its not worth $400?
I know that the japanese homes are smaller, therefore have less room to place 3 consoles. Could this be one of the reason it's usually just a 1 console winner? Also it looks like japanese hate big size consoles. Looks like current gen HD gaming is dead in japan for now.
I know that the japanese homes are smaller, therefore have less room to place 3 consoles. Could this be one of the reason it's usually just a 1 console winner? Also it looks like japanese hate big size consoles. Looks like current gen HD gaming is dead in japan for now.
yurinka
Member
I'm sorry don't remember the sources it were credible sources.donny2112 said:
Now in a quick search I can only find VG charts (they mention 17 psp worldwide million sellers): But don't believe so much their numbers, just take it as guide. Their Nintendo sales are usually higher than Nintendo shipment numbers. Just the opposite than their Sony numbers.
_Alkaline_
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Does anyone have any numbers on how well Monster Hunter 2 sold on PS2?
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Wow. I'm impressed. At this point, can we talk of "resurgence of PSP Software"?
Psychotext
Member
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Not really. Monster Hunter's sort of an outlier for PSP software sales.Mithos Yggdrasill said:
_Alkaline_ said:
Just repeating what I've posted before, so if this seems familiar, that's why. :lol
Code:
PS2 Monster Hunter 121K .. 55K .. 29K ... 289K (20041226)
PS2 Monster Hunter G 128K .. 30K .. 15K ... 232K (20051225)
PS2 Monster Hunter 2 368K .. 95K .. 39K ... 571K (20061231)My expectations are for Monster Hunter 3 to do about as well as Monster Hunter 1 for its first week, as the Monster Hunter userbase migrates over. My LTD expectations would be between MH1 and MH2, though.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Segata Sanshiro said:
But it's an impressive performance for just one day. I mean: it's comparable with New Super Mario Bros. I wonder what will change for the PSP in Japan...
Segata Sanshiro
Member
If you can't find your "credible" sources, please at least refrain from spreading the fecal matter that is "Oi-Oi's Magical Made-up Numbers" all over our nice sales thread's carpet, ok?yurinka said:
_Alkaline_
Member
donny2112 said:
Thanks for the numbers donny and Psychotext.
Is there a particular reason why the series is more popular on the PSP?
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
donny2112 said:
Right now I understand why Nintendo has obtained the exclusivity of Monster Hunter 3. I mean: why Monster Hunter 3 and not something else? But I doubt that sooner or later, this title will not be ported on PSP.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
It's absolutely impressive. Incredibly impressive.Mithos Yggdrasill said:
But sweet fuck all will change for PSP, of that I can assure you.
_Alkaline_ said:
Local multi-player aspect, most likely. Similar to Animal Crossing's huge increase when it came to the DS.
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
Honest question. Are MHPortable and MHPortable 2 pretty much ports of MH and MH2? If you played MHPortable 2 on your TV via the PSPSlim's TV Out, would people mistake it for a console Monster Hunter?
btutterrow
Member
I want this brought to the states SO bad. What an awesome series. My bro-in-law just bought a PSP for this game and we played together Ad-hoc for the first time last night. So cool.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Yeah. Wish I could say I was surprised.ethelred said:
Phife Dawg
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Impressive MHP numbers. Will be interesting to see if it's more front loaded. If this has comparable legs to MHP2 we're looking at some big numbers. I kind of doubt it (not being a true sequel) but Capcom should be very happy regardless.
Phife Dawg
Member
That Svensson guy from Capcom more or less confirmed that MH3 is coming to western shores (or the US at least), hinting at an accompanying big ad campaign. Don't know about the portable side though.btutterrow said:
CitizenCope
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From the PS3 Forums MC thread. "PS3 is still doing quite well...":lol
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Combined.donny2112 said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
CitizenCope said:
So I take it the consensus over there was that the GameCube was a resounding success, right?
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Can we have some indication (even qualitative) that tell us how much PSP's hardware moved along with MHP2G?
Segata Sanshiro
Member
I doubt we'll get any useful numbers this quickly. For what it's worth, and in my estimation it's not worth much at all, in my town MHP2G is super-super sold out (with signs apologizing, etc), but every non-discontinued colour of PSP is still in stock at all stores.Mithos Yggdrasill said:
JoshuaJSlone
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Based on the latest Famitsu numbers...
PS3 comparisons: After 71 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 16.6 weeks (June 22, 2000), where PSP was at 47.2 weeks (October 31, 2005), where GCN was at 68.2 weeks (December 30, 2002), and where Wii was at 17.7 weeks (March 29, 2007).
Wii comparisons: After 68 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 69.4 weeks (July 16, 2002), where DS was at 57.7 weeks (January 6, 2006), where PS2 was at 92.1 weeks (December 2, 2001), and where PSP was at 134.5 weeks (July 4, 2007).
Based on the latest Media Create numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 52.1 / 47.9, bringing total shares to 72.1 / 27.9. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 227.0 weeks (July 30, 2012).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 17.1 / 82.9, bringing total shares to 26.0 / 74.0. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 283.2 weeks (August 27, 2013).
PSP vs Wii: At this week's rates, Wii catches up to PSP in 1150.4 weeks (April 10, 2030).
39.5
14.0
9.8
7.3
4.6
3.4
9.7
5.1
6.9
4.3
Though it's been higher than that lately, so the norm it returns to won't be so low.
PS3 comparisons: After 71 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 16.6 weeks (June 22, 2000), where PSP was at 47.2 weeks (October 31, 2005), where GCN was at 68.2 weeks (December 30, 2002), and where Wii was at 17.7 weeks (March 29, 2007).
Wii comparisons: After 68 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 69.4 weeks (July 16, 2002), where DS was at 57.7 weeks (January 6, 2006), where PS2 was at 92.1 weeks (December 2, 2001), and where PSP was at 134.5 weeks (July 4, 2007).
Based on the latest Media Create numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 52.1 / 47.9, bringing total shares to 72.1 / 27.9. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 227.0 weeks (July 30, 2012).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 17.1 / 82.9, bringing total shares to 26.0 / 74.0. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 283.2 weeks (August 27, 2013).
PSP vs Wii: At this week's rates, Wii catches up to PSP in 1150.4 weeks (April 10, 2030).
Hardware? About equally shameful. Software? PS3's is worse, unless you only consider third-party sales. Though it does appear that PS3's top third party game (DW6) is only beating GCN's top third party game (RE0) by about 11K.Count Dookkake said:
Media Create weekly numbers didn't really start until 2002, but the data I've got for that year has enough holes that I just start the online data with 2003. The Famitsu data online goes back to 2000, though, so it's complete for PS2 and on.Verve said:
GBASP, DS, PSP, and GBM launched between the beginning of 2003 and the X360 launch, so they're represented in full, too.donny2112 said:
The same thing that changed the last time Monster Hunter PSP launched huge? Here were PSP's percentages of total software sold on Famitsu's software pie the weeks of and following Monster Hunter 2 Portable launch.Mithos Yggdrasill said:
39.5
14.0
9.8
7.3
4.6
3.4
9.7
5.1
6.9
4.3
Though it's been higher than that lately, so the norm it returns to won't be so low.
cvxfreak said:
Pretty much, but the 2007 Top 500 chart shouldn't add anything new, in this case.
PSP Monster Hunter Portable 668,964 (20061231) 10K in the last 6 months of 2006 means this one's sales have died.
PSP Monster Hunter Portable (BEST) 290,904 (20071230) 0K in the last 6 months of 2007 means that this one's sales have died.
Total: 960K, though I don't like to combine regular and BEST releases, when the tracker isn't.
JoshuaJSlone said:
*Bangs head against wall*
I forgot about DS and PSP. For GBA, I take them as a whole, though.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Segata Sanshiro said:
So, it's not wrong to affirm that who bought MHP2G already had a PSP and probably even MHP2 (and maybe 1 too).
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Well, don't draw any conclusions from my sample of a few stores. That would be silly.Mithos Yggdrasill said:
My prediction is along the lines of others in this thread. I suspect the hardware will see a pretty good bump this week, then slide back down to the already-superb numbers it has been pulling of late.
Software situation outside of MHP seems unlikely to change, however.
Psychotext
Member
I love these things.JoshuaJSlone said:
So, I noticed something interesting looking at Joshua's figures. Currently the PS3 is at 1,981,054 sales LTD in Japan. The interesting thing is if you compare that to how far away the PS3 is from matching what the Wii did in it's first year (I choose to date it at the week of 11/19, 52 weeks of sales) the PS3 needs to reach 3,844,356 units sold by the end of this year (slightly over 2 years since the PS3's release) to match what the Wii did in one year.
Assuming all my dates I'm using are roughly correct, and since I believe that comes to 40 sales weeks left in this year the PS3 needs to reach 1,863.302 units for an average of 46,582.55 units per week. I find that interesting because the PS3 has already been available for 71 weeks in Japan and has only managed to sell an average of ~27,902 units/week and it STILL needs to average just under 50k to do what the Wii did in it's FIRST year.
So I guess my question is pretty simple. Do you think the PS3 will close the Wii's first year gap by the end of this calendar year, and if so how long will it take the PS3 to do it?
Edit - Sorry, caught a minor math error that threw things off a bit.
Assuming all my dates I'm using are roughly correct, and since I believe that comes to 40 sales weeks left in this year the PS3 needs to reach 1,863.302 units for an average of 46,582.55 units per week. I find that interesting because the PS3 has already been available for 71 weeks in Japan and has only managed to sell an average of ~27,902 units/week and it STILL needs to average just under 50k to do what the Wii did in it's FIRST year.
So I guess my question is pretty simple. Do you think the PS3 will close the Wii's first year gap by the end of this calendar year, and if so how long will it take the PS3 to do it?
Edit - Sorry, caught a minor math error that threw things off a bit.
legend166 said:
You make an excellent point here. I used to think it was piracy as well but like you say- why would they choose to buy one game and pirate all the others? makes no sense. Obviously this game proves that if you make the right game for this market then people will buy it.
Starchasing
Member
jibblypop said:
I think blaming piracy is just and excuse. It seems like the market is not interested in the games the PSP has to offer
In regards to the MH3 talk:
I think that it's a really good possibility that Monster Hunter 3 is going to out-perform its console predecessors. Simply put, Monster Hunter brand awareness is at an all-time high thanks to the PSP, and being on a high-profile platform like Wii will only increase its apparent brand notoriety in Japan. MH3 might not do the same numbers the PSP versions are doing, but it will certainly outclass its previous console entries. The difference is simple: Monster Hunter on PS2 is another amazing action game in a sea of amazing games. On PSP and now on Wii, Monster Hunter is a stand-out title in a sea of nothing special. So by virtue of the platforms it is being released on now, Monster Hunter could soon be defined as a system-seller in its own right. But we'll have to wait and see how it all plays out.
I think that it's a really good possibility that Monster Hunter 3 is going to out-perform its console predecessors. Simply put, Monster Hunter brand awareness is at an all-time high thanks to the PSP, and being on a high-profile platform like Wii will only increase its apparent brand notoriety in Japan. MH3 might not do the same numbers the PSP versions are doing, but it will certainly outclass its previous console entries. The difference is simple: Monster Hunter on PS2 is another amazing action game in a sea of amazing games. On PSP and now on Wii, Monster Hunter is a stand-out title in a sea of nothing special. So by virtue of the platforms it is being released on now, Monster Hunter could soon be defined as a system-seller in its own right. But we'll have to wait and see how it all plays out.
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
DoubleTap said:
AWESOME! I hope it gets localized and maybe Nintendo would release it perhaps.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Isn't that kind of weird? Do you think Famitsu may be counting another SKU for the April re-print of MHP The Best!? Btw, from Capcom themselves: http://www.capcom.co.jp/monsterhunter/P/donny2112 said:
Top500 can't come soon enough :<