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I don't know it got the not on switch MH5, xx and switch port. While guessing all of those individually is not hard at all, at the same time is reasonably unlikely.The rumor is mostly trash. You can discard it.
I don't know it got the not on switch MH5, xx and switch port. While guessing all of those individually is not hard at all, at the same time is reasonably unlikely.The rumor is mostly trash. You can discard it.
I agree that XX not being localized is a strange move from Capcom but XX is a spin-off and World is the next big Monster Hunter game, can you guess which one takes precedent for them?
I do see XX getting Western release sometime later in 2018 though.
I have seen the original reveal thread where people where trying to label it as spin-off.
Why would we assume that though?
Vita is definitelly getting a Monster Hunter game as well (me in 2012)
I do think there's a difference here considering a MH game has already been announced for Switch then again WiiU also got MH so it's by no means an absolute indication of future support
There are a few uncertainties about World. We know given sales history on consoles in Japan that this will very likely not pull numbers comparable to the portable installments, and we also know that it's up to the game showing considerable growth in the West for this to be a worthwhile investment. I think if that happens, MH could simply consolidate on the home console platforms as we saw with the 3DS the past few years.
But they obviously have an insurance in case that doesn't happen as Portable MH is still very much a big deal in Japan.
I agree, i was mostly jokining with that post It seemed so certain back in the days that the Vita would get a Monster Hunter game as well, especially after the huge success on PSP and that Capcom demoed MH3P with dual sticks during the Vita announcement. But as we know, Vita didnt get a MH game (well it got Frontier, but that wasnt what people were expecting).Vita didn't get a port of a main MH game in its first year, though
When I saw it, I didn't exactly look at it as spin-off. Partly because of the rumor as well which already confirmed a Western Monster Hunter.And rightfully so because of what they showed during the reveal.
We have had more details since on the gameplay which have cleared up this misunderstanding. It's very much on Capcom's part.
Capcom's communication has been shit for years now. If you still can't see it, then you just don't know Capcom.I could guess but Capcom not communicating with us is a big part of the reason a lot of people are rightfully upset.
I don't know it got the not on switch MH5, xx and switch port. While guessing all of those individually is not hard at all, at the same time is reasonably unlikely.
Why would we assume that though?
What do you think are Capcom's target on this? I will be surprised if it sells much more than 2M in the west.
I'm basing that projection on how well other mid-tier Japanese franchises tend to sell on PS4. Nioh, Persona 5, and Nier as recent examples. 1.5m-ish seems to be about size of the potential audience for bigger, but not AAA Japanese games in the west.
Forgot about Steam though, that will definitely be a good chunk of sales.
What do you think are Capcom's target on this? I will be surprised if it sells much more than 2M in the west, as that is putting them on Souls level of success.
Yeah but the specific core details have been surprising accurate. Which is what I'm referring to in the likelihood of MH5/p.As I mentioned in the other thread, it could have been someone who got correct information and mixed it with fanboy conjecture to paint a negative picture.
What do you think are Capcom's target on this? I will be surprised if it sells much more than 2M in the west, as that is putting them on Souls level of success.
Maybe them not localizing XX yet is because:
1. The Switch version isn't released yet, and XX is primarily still targeted to the Japanese demographics (hence localization wasn't in mind).
2. The game just came out a few months ago.
3. Wasn't it Nintendo who published the past MH games and they came out a year or so after?
I think XX is definitely coming out in English, but with the help of Nintendo and will come out more than a year after the Switch version.
What did dark souls 3 sell like?I think at the end of the day, Monster Hunter World should be able to clear between 2 to 3 million worldwide.
PC - 500k+
PS4 (Japan) - 500k-700k
PS4/XBO - 1-1.5 million
Now I can't say whether this will satisfy Capcom.
I agree, i was mostly jokining with that post It seemed so certain back in the days that the Vita would get a Monster Hunter game as well, especially after the huge success on PSP and that Capcom demoed MH3P with dual sticks during the Vita announcement. But as we know, Vita didnt get a MH game (well it got Frontier, but that wasnt what people were expecting).
I think either Capcom is developing two MH games now, or they're going the route like they did with MH3 and MHP3. Releasing a console version first, see how it does, and then do a portable version (or a new game) after that.
Now I can't say whether this will satisfy Capcom.
I just have to say that the reaction from Nintendo fans is hilarious in the Monster Hunter thread.
So Capcom keeps the series exclusive to Nintendo for ages and no one bats an eye. Then they announce Monster Hunter World for PS4/XBO/PC with western release and somehow everyone is up in arms about it, going as far as to say that they are now done with the series. I love all the salt
I do think XX needs to be localized for the Switch though, so hopefully that comes through at a later date. But it is most likely not happening until World releases first.
The official website lists only PS4 and PS4 Pro version in Japan so I don't think they will bother with Xbox One there.
Are you including the PC release in that projection?
Let's wait for their financial reports to see how much they expect it to sell. That should clear up their budget spend.Pretty sure Capcom would consider that a huge bomb.
I think it's pretty telling when every interview and marketing piece for the game in Japan emphasizes on the GLOBAL importance of this title. It's almost like they're hanging up a huge sign saying "YO READERS THIS GAME IS NOT REALLY FOR YOU!" or something.
Are you really comparing a flagship franchise with Nioh, Persona 5, and Nier? Like, really? If Capcom is really serious about this, the marketing costs for MHW alone should dwarf the entire budgets for those games.
Are you really comparing a flagship franchise with Nioh, Persona 5, and Nier? Like, really? If Capcom is really serious about this, the marketing costs for MHW alone should dwarf the entire budgets for those games.
Whether people buy into that will depend on the timing and the game itself of course.
I think at the end of the day, Monster Hunter World should be able to clear between 2 to 3 million worldwide.
PC - 500k+
PS4 (Japan) - 500k-700k
PS4/XBO - 1-1.5 million
Now I can't say whether this will satisfy Capcom.
If their goal is growth of the franchise we should be looking at 5-6 million ww at least. The series already made 4 million ww on a much lower budget. If it ends up selling considerably less it would be a pretty bad outcome for Capcom. It's a big gamble, I hope it pays off for them or the part about support from Sony is true.I think at the end of the day, Monster Hunter World should be able to clear between 2 to 3 million worldwide.
PC - 500k+
PS4 (Japan) - 500k-700k
PS4/XBO - 1-1.5 million
Now I can't say whether this will satisfy Capcom.
Let's wait for their financial reports to see how much they expect it to sell. That should clear up their budget spend.
1-1.5M in Japan.
2M RoW.
The decline of RE has less to do with marketing and more to do with going survival horror in first person.While a juggernaut in Japan, I don't see the MH brand being bigger than Persona 5 in the west atm. And Capcom marketing means little these days. RE was once one of the biggest gaming brands and 7 disappointed despite critics acclaim. And lets not talk about SFV...
It's going to be the best-selling PS4 game in Japan?
It's going to be the best-selling PS4 game in Japan?
It's going to be the best-selling PS4 game in Japan?
The most tricky part is that World is for a completely new audience. New platforms. This is the reason it is hard to predict if this entry can sell 4 million right from the get go.I feel like 4m WW should be the minimum. MH4, 4U and Generations all shipped around that. It would be weird for the next major game to fall short of it by about a 1-1.5m. The whole initiative behind this project is to stimulate growth through leveraging the West better than having it on a handheld did.
1.5M..................1-1.5M in Japan.
2M RoW.
I know, right.
Like when I stepped in the Monster Hunter World trademark thread, I was convinced that MHW was a shitty western MMO-something spin-off and the real MH5 belongs to Nintendo consoles or something.
That's because it is hard to believe that capcom would take such a gamble with their most stable franchise. But I guess capcom's going to capcom.
Because PS4 is not portable and that is where the IP is strong. On the much more popular Wii Tri was not able to get to 1.5 and was heavily discounted. I think we are looking at 500k+.It's one of the strongest IPs in Japan. Why not?
2 million is the floor. 4-5 million should be the prime target. If not, why bother revamping it as much as they did and putting it on the platforms it's on?
This would also have been greenlit before any of that became clear. If that was their decision making at that time, then they are either farseers or idiots.
Capcom has told Dengeki that Monster Hunter World was originally called Monster Hunter 5, but they decided they preferred the name World (presumably because it was more accessible to Western audiences who had never heard of the series before).
It doesn't look like a spin off at all. PR says it's the next game in the franchise. I guess they didn't want to name it MH5 in order to not confuse first comers to the franchise. This is basically MH5 in all except the name.
Also, seriously people believe this will not be released in Japan?
Yes but the rationale behind this was that the handhelds were limiting the potential for bigger sales, hence putting it on platforms with much larger userbase in the West. Of course as you say it's a new system, new ecosystem entirely, so it's not that simple that it will easily transfer to bigger sales. Will Monster Hunter stand out as unique and essential in this ecosystem? That's the risk. But for it to be worth it, they need a good foundation to start on, we'll see what their target is soon enough.The most tricky part is that World is for a completely new audience. New platforms. This is the reason it is hard to predict if this entry can sell 4 million right from the get go.
You need to look at Monster Hunter Tri for Wii to get an estimate of the low end for World. The high end on consoles/PC is not yet known but if we look at games like Dragon's Dogma and Dark Souls, 4 million is a number that will be hard to reach unless the game sells like 1.5 million in Japan. Even looking at the 4 Million number you quoted here, 3+ million of these sales were from Japan while the rest is made up of overseas.
Theres differences, but MH3P isnt concidered as a totally different/new game, no? There could be differences made, but i was just thinking that they go this route, instead of creating a whole different game.mHP3 was considerably different to MH Tri though
1-1.5M in Japan.
2M RoW.
Come on, mh fan(or Nintendo fan, I don't know) should wake up and face the reality. I can still remember the time when mh3g happened, many guys were talking that there should still have a psv mainline mh game. It just make me sad
And the prediction of MHW sales is difficult. Maybe we should wait and see Capcom's target.
Anyway, I get a little worried about the Japanese third party support of Switch after this E3. It's much weaker than 3DS, and games like Dragon Ball Fighters and Ni no Kuni don't have a switch version is very concerning. The switch version of DQXI should release asap.
Theres differences, but MH3P isnt concidered as a totally different/new game, no? There could be differences made, but i was just thinking that they go this route, instead of creating a whole different game.
ps4 sales are pretty disappointing if you consider how successful it is ww
pretty much the opposite of the 3ds where japan sales are great compared to its performance ww
it'll be interesting to see how much switch sales in japan help its performance ww compared to the ps4
not too surprising, they've done pretty well on 3ds
hope the fact they're taking so long means they're putting quality as a priority rather than development hell
Capcom has told Dengeki that Monster Hunter World was originally called Monster Hunter 5, but they decided they preferred the name World (presumably because it was more accessible to Western audiences who had never heard of the series before): http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spuvtg (http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/538/1538583/)
Given the rest of the information updates, I think we can pretty safely say this is the next mainline entry.
Capcom also told watch.impress (they're a Japanese industry site) that they're not currently planning a Switch version: https://twitter.com/BannedDino/status/874880770199965697 (http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/interview/1065192.html)
I just have to say that the reaction from Nintendo fans is hilarious in the Monster Hunter thread.
So Capcom keeps the series exclusive to Nintendo for ages and no one bats an eye. Then they announce Monster Hunter World for PS4/XBO/PC with western release and somehow everyone is up in arms about it, going as far as to say that they are now done with the series. I love all the salt
I do think XX needs to be localized for the Switch though, so hopefully that comes through at a later date. But it is most likely not happening until World releases first.
The official website lists only PS4 and PS4 Pro version in Japan so I don't think they will bother with Xbox One there.