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[Deleted member 47027]

I think the biggest take away from this, which Ars has completely overlooked, is that Blu-ray is confirmed to be part of the next Xbox.

I thought that was old news.

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

A vague e-mail. I will not believe this until Microsoft explicitly states that it is false. The same goes with anti-used games. They've been so tight lipped and then this magically slips out.

lol it's not vague at all.

 

[Takuya]

This thread should be tagged as rumor.

 

[Sax_Man]

Why would they squash this rumor NOW, instead of months ago? I don't understand.

E: ^^ smfh

 

[Xun]

I'm only interested if you can play used games as well.

 

[Killthee]

Can't believe it took them this long to release that. Also a bit surprised they confirmed the TV/DVR capabilities before the event.

 

[Basileus777]

Commonsense wins. "Sources" lose.

 

[dragonbane]

A vague e-mail. I will not believe this until Microsoft explicitly states that it is false. The same goes with anti-used games. They've been so tight lipped and then this magically slips out.

And the part "and yes playing a single player game" sounds so weird to me. Without the word "yes" it would be fine, but this way it sounds a bit too personal and forced. It seems more directed at us expecting bad news than the employees.

 

[Uno Venova]

Good, they finally spoke on it.

 

[JABEE]

Great news.

 

[Dead Prince]

if a single player game has mp features does that count?

 

[Confidence Man]

Nice. Now let me play games without a monthly fee.

 

[vg260]

Good, they finally spoke on it.

Leaked internal email.

 

[ekim]

This thread should be tagged as rumor.

I don't think that an internal mail from MS should be tagged as rumor.
Or do you want to imply that ars is making this up?

 

[stryke]

Ars vs Edge. Both are good reliable places.

Kotaku sort of backtracked always on.

The thing is, plans can change. We'll never know if MS wanted to pursue "always online". Whatever the case, this will hopefully dispel any doubts.

 

[grosvenor_92]

Now give us free online Microsoft

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

And the part "and yes playing a single player game" sounds so weird to me. Without the word "yes" it would be fine, but this way it sounds a bit too personal and forced.

I think it's an acknowledgment of the rumors. It's clear as day.

 

[ThisWreckage]

This is straight up damage control on Microsofts part, this is the only way they can comment on the rumors without publicly doing so. They knew this was going to be leaked.

So they wait to release this bomb now? Not weeks ago when it was more pertinent? You know, when one of their employees was fired for comments regarding this?

 

[ebullientprism]

Thread title is VERY misleading. Thats not an official statement from MS. Thats another leak.

 

[Basileus777]

if a single player game has mp features does that count?

That's probably all on the publisher end.

 

[Fivefold]

Stage 1: Denial

 

[BRocknRolla]

Read more closely:

* Full-time employees working on the next Xbox

Missed that. Thanks! Will edit for accuracy.

Still wonder why they would need to point it out to everyone working on the system unless it was understood previously internally that it would be always-on. Or maybe this was intended as a controlled leak.

 

[Meelow]

I don't think that an internal mail from MS should be tagged as rumor.
Or do you want to imply that ars is making this up?

Everything's a rumor before, officially confirmed.

 

[R3TRODYCE]

Commonsense wins. "Sources" lose.

Oh those sources lol.

 

[iMax]

I thought that was old news.

Not really. It was mentioned a few times in the leaks, which at this point are pure conjecture, but it's interesting to finally hear it from 'the horses mouth', despite recent rumors.

 

[Takuya]

I don't think that an internal mail from MS should be tagged as rumor.
Or do you want to imply that ars is making this up?

I don't see an e-mail, I see quoted text that was apparently from an internal e-mail. It is a rumor, without proof. Just like you liked to complain about the always-online and other rumors being just that -- rumors.

 

[.GqueB.]

This thread should be tagged as rumor.

I've watched enough West Wing to know a purposeful leak when I see one. This is the real deal.

 

[Thrakier]

That seals it, coming back to Xbox next gen.

You basically know nothing about the console, but that it does NOT require always on is enough to "seal" it!?

 

[MasLegio]

Has this recieved the Pastebin Quality Stamp of Approval?

I wont believe it otherwise

So they fired Adam Orth, why? lol poor guy, if it turns out his tweets had nothing to do with MS.

because they do not discuss rumors and speculation

especially about products and services regarding billion dollar markets

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I don't see an e-mail, I see quoted text that was apparently from an internal e-mail. It is a rumor, without proof. Just like you liked to complain about the always-online and other rumors being just that -- rumors.

Keep fighting the good fight.

 

[KidBeta]

Thread needs the word rumour in the title

Microsoft has stated nothing so far.

 

[Bsigg12]

I don't think that an internal mail from MS should be tagged as rumor.
Or do you want to imply that ars is making this up?

He's just mad that the doom and gloom about the Durango is starting to go away. I agree with you though, an internal email is not a rumor when its a source like ars.

 

[witchedwiz]

will work or WILL PLAY GAMES or WILL LET YOU KEEP PLAYING GAMES?
because
1) work, means the console will work, but tells nothing of playing games
2) is allrite
3) means that you have to be online when you start the game, but can go offline after that.. and is shit as much as an always online

 

[shinobi602]

Why couldn't they post the entire email? I want to see a screencap of it.

 

[AgentP]

It could take the form of a fully offline mode akin to that on the Xbox 360 (insert optical disc, install game, play, all without an Internet connection) or it could be more like Steam (install and activate online but enable subsequent offline play once this has been done).

So still blocking used games via online registration then? I wonder how much it will cost to re-activate a used game will cost from MS?

 

[Takuya]

Keep fighting the good fight.

Coming from the one who kept screaming "RUMOR RUMOR!" for all the other ones.

Why couldn't they post the entire email? I want to see a screencap of it.

Because it's BS.

 

[iMax]

Article just got updated.

The quotation also implicitly confirms another rumor: the next Xbox will sport an HDMI input, to allow cable boxes to be hooked up for live TV viewing. Our sources tell us that the console will be able to provide TV listings and similar information.

 

[Tylahedras]

So you're thinking there was previously a policy that it would be always-on, and this was altering that? That would be news in and of itself, though I don't think there's any evidence for that.

I was just kidding around. Who knows what they were doing prior, we'll probably have to wait 10 years for a tell-all from an ex employee or something.

I do find it funny they would send this out though, seems like either:

A) They wanted it to leak, judging from the wording and fact it needed to exist.

B) They really were changing policy and wanted people to stop leaking bad information.

C) Even their own staff were confused by the rumors swirling around.

I think 'A' seems most likely.

 

[FrankT]

I don't see an e-mail, I see quoted text that was apparently from an internal e-mail. It is a rumor, without proof. Just like you liked to complain about the always-online and other rumors being just that -- rumors.

Yea sorry this is guaranteed.

Ars is no rumor mill.

But we can all pretend it is until May 21st.

 

[njean777]

Will wait till the 21st to see if the rumor is true or not, it most likely isn't, but you never know with MS.

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

I've watched enough West Wing to know a purposeful leak when I see one. This is the real deal.

Really, this was also a purposeful leak, but it went over too many people's heads.

Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games. Putting in an Xbox 360 disc into Durango will prompt the user to attach the supporting device that is sold separately. By separating the two devices and their functions it will ensure price competitiveness for both pieces of hardware. Microsoft’s delay in announcing these products from April goes more inline with not having a physical set of devices to show (among specification updates), which should be ready by May or June when this information is officially released.

 

[jagowar]

That or just a overlay with a HDMI-In and Out ports using your current TV set top.

That was a rumored feature.... based on the way that was phrased that almost confirms the hdmi in feature.

 

[Dark Octave]

Now how about debunking the rumors around $60 a year for Youtube and Netflix?

Oh wait, that's real...

 

[Officerrob]

So they wait to release this bomb now? Not weeks ago when it was more pertinent? You know, when one of their employees was fired for comments regarding this?

Weeks ago there wasn't a public event scheduled unveiling their new console. MS was never going to say anything back then because they had yet to even publicly say there was going to be another XBox. Now that they have, we have stuff like this.

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

Sorry, but i've learned that in the games industry it's guilty until proven innocent.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Article just got updated.

That's neat, I might actually get cable TV again if they can turn watching TV into something more.

 

[Impeccable]

Good news but why not post the whole thing?

 

[Neuromancer]

Thank god.

After much thought this is what I expected, but I'm still very happy to hear this news.

 

[Basileus777]

Microsoft probably just wants to get this out of the way in advance of the event. It'll be discussed and by May 21, this won't be a hot button issue for them anymore.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

So they wait to release this bomb now? Not weeks ago when it was more pertinent? You know, when one of their employees was fired for comments regarding this?

He was likely let go because of his insensitive-sounding remarks about people living in certain places in the country where they might not get good internet connections.